12-11-2013 06:31 PM
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  1. Chris Kurth1's Avatar
    I spend a lot of my time defending WP and Windows 8.1 on websites who are bias towards Crapple products. Yet, I own a Samsung Note 2. I'm happy with it but I'd love to have the Nokia 1520. I guess I just want to know if there is a way to put custom ROM's on Windows phones? If not, are there ways to be an "administrator" of the phone, like having an android phone rooted? I haven't owned a Windows phone in a long time so sorry to sound like an *****. I'm more of a pc guy when it comes to Windows.
    12-07-2013 05:34 PM
  2. xandros9's Avatar
    WP7 phones? Yea, I believe so
    WP8? Not so much, only one (or two?) have had their security cracked allowing much more fun stuff (The ATIV S and Ascend W1 IIRC?)
    You can sideload stuff with a dev account

    but i dont think you'll find the degree of overwhelming options and launchers like in 'Droid land
    12-07-2013 06:04 PM
  3. raccoon210's Avatar
    To the kind of degree that you're talking about no. I mean with the ATIV S the best thing you can do is make it have independent volume control. Its technically rooting it but not to any extent that you would consider probably
    12-07-2013 06:21 PM
  4. tgp's Avatar
    With Lumia WP8 you can flash variants of the ROMs for your phone (ROMs for the phone sold in other countries or through other carriers), but that's about as adventurous as you can get.
    12-07-2013 06:21 PM
  5. brunoadduarte's Avatar
    What would be the point anyway?
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    12-07-2013 07:27 PM
  6. FinancialP's Avatar
    What would be the point anyway?
    You know to mod stuff as you wish. Custom theme colors... Just like how we did on WP7 and every previous version of Windows Mobile.
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    12-07-2013 07:35 PM
  7. tgp's Avatar
    What would be the point anyway?
    Even with the limited flashing possible on Lumia WP8, there's at least one point. I flashed a CV ROM on my 520 to unbrand it from AT&T, and it also enabled tethering.
    12-07-2013 08:19 PM
  8. brunoadduarte's Avatar
    You know to mod stuff as you wish. Custom theme colors... Just like how we did on WP7 and every previous version of Windows Mobile.
    Wouldn't that be ruining the point of buying a WP altogether? I get the theme colours, of course. I'd like MS to broaden the colour palette a bit too, but other than that I don't see the point.
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    12-08-2013 06:45 AM
  9. FinancialP's Avatar
    Wouldn't that be ruining the point of buying a WP altogether? I get the theme colours, of course. I'd like MS to broaden the colour palette a bit too, but other than that I don't see the point.
    Ruin the point of buying WP? Nope not at all. Options are never a problem.

    Does jail breaking ruin the point of buying a iPhone? Nope. What about Android and rooting? Nope.

    Options are a great thing.
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    12-08-2013 08:37 AM
  10. neo158's Avatar
    Ruin the point of buying WP? Nope not at all. Options are never a problem.

    Does jail breaking ruin the point of buying a iPhone? Nope. What about Android and rooting? Nope.

    Options are a great thing.
    It doesn't ruin the point of buying a Windows Phone but why bother with custom ROMs on a WP. Unlike iOS it's not nearly as locked down requiring a jailbreak to customise, although that depends on your POV, and doesn't have the performance issues that Android has which require rooting and a custom ROM/Kernel to fix.
    12-08-2013 11:10 AM
  11. brunoadduarte's Avatar
    Too much options create too much complexity. And we all agree that complexity would ruin WP... Specially considering that its main selling point is simplicity.

    I did a jailbreak to my old 3G as well but it was only because of Winterboard, nothing else. As for Android people fiddle with their systems so much that their phones are slow because of that. The infamy of Android's slowness comes mainly from rooting it so much.

    I'm not saying I wouldn't do it come the time, I'm just saying be careful with what you wish for.
    12-08-2013 11:12 AM
  12. neo158's Avatar
    Too much options create too much complexity. And we all agree that complexity would ruin WP... Specially considering that its main selling point is simplicity.

    I did a jailbreak to my old 3G as well but it was only because of Winterboard, nothing else. As for Android people fiddle with their systems so much that their phones are slow because of that. The infamy of Android's slowness comes mainly from rooting it so much.

    I'm not saying I wouldn't do it come the time, I'm just saying be careful with what you wish for.
    I somewhat agree with your comments on Android, however the Galaxy Nexus that I also own no longer gets updates from Google so the only way I've been able to install the 4.4 update is to unlock the bootloader, root the phone and install a CM11 Nightly. So rooting does have it's uses and TBH Android 4.4 has improved performance of it drastically.

    I've still given up on Android though and use my WP as a daily driver and that isn't going to change, Android is there for a couple of apps that WP doesn't have yet.
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    12-08-2013 11:19 AM
  13. FinancialP's Avatar
    It doesn't ruin the point of buying a Windows Phone but why bother with custom ROMs on a WP. Unlike iOS it's not nearly as locked down requiring a jailbreak to customise, although that depends on your POV, and doesn't have the performance issues that Android has which require rooting and a custom ROM/Kernel to fix.
    It's a option, for those who like to mod. You don't have to do it just like on other platforms.

    Every OS can have something improved upon as Microsoft is not perfect just like Apple and Google are not perfect.

    How can options be complex? Just don't do it. At least you will have the option to should you wish to.
    Tre Lawrence likes this.
    12-08-2013 12:41 PM
  14. neo158's Avatar
    It's a option, for those who like to mod. You don't have to do it just like on other platforms.

    Every OS can have something improved upon as Microsoft is not perfect just like Apple and Google are not perfect.

    How can options be complex? Just don't do it. At least you will have the option to should you wish to.

    How many people install custom ROMs on Android though, I would guess that the majority of people who use an Android device don't even know about custom ROMs, let alone know about unlocking bootloaders or rooting.

    You're right though, no OS is perfect but custom ROMs aren't the answer as flashing them can void your warranty or, at the worst, can brick your device. We are better off requesting the improvements via the suggestion box app or the uservoice forums and see if Microsoft choose to add them or not.
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    12-08-2013 02:36 PM
  15. FinancialP's Avatar
    How many people install custom ROMs on Android though, I would guess that the majority of people who use an Android device don't even know about custom ROMs, let alone know about unlocking bootloaders or rooting.

    You're right though, no OS is perfect but custom ROMs aren't the answer as flashing them can void your warranty or, at the worst, can brick your device.
    That's why it's called an option my good sir. For those who are savvy enough and want to do it. Just ignore it if you don't want to. That's the beauty of options.
    12-08-2013 02:38 PM
  16. M_VwithDVP's Avatar
    The Samsung Ativ S has been the only one to be hacked and the only one that can have custom ROMs loaded.
    12-08-2013 02:47 PM
  17. Greywolf1967's Avatar
    In my younger days maybe I could see the point of tinkering with how the OS is shown, or to change things around, but now I am happy with Windows Phone as it is.

    The difference is in mind set now. If you want to tweak the Launch/Main Screen then Android is your goto OS. If you want lots of live information in Tile format then WP is it.

    If Microsoft were to add a changeable feature, I would like something like the Dragon wallpaper on the Windows 8.1 ( Surface ) background. Something that scrolls up and down much like the background in 8.1 when you scroll side to side.

    I think the addition of a few moving wallpapers would go a long way to calming the Custom Junkies jitters of not fully sold Android converts.

    Windows Phone has grown out of it's Win CE days of custom every thing seen, for the "Live Tile/Information" Mind set now.

    There is nothing wrong in wanting to dazzle up your OS, but if this is your major selling point...then Android is your thing now. It is a good OS and the phones are also good.

    You can change roms with use of what the people over at XDA do, but with Windows Phone the only change you get is features built into the rom. Like Nokia Maps on an HTC.

    Just basic changes....but your phone will look more or less the same.
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    12-08-2013 03:31 PM
  18. Kebero's Avatar
    To the kind of degree that you're talking about no. I mean with the ATIV S the best thing you can do is make it have independent volume control. Its technically rooting it but not to any extent that you would consider probably
    It is 100% impossible to root any device that is not based on UNIX/Linux. And if most people really knew what rooting their Android devices did, they'd probably run as far away as possible from the practice (which is, BTW, the exact opposite of what one should do with a *nix machine - normally, the first thing you do, if it is not automatically done, is to disable root access).
    12-08-2013 08:53 PM
  19. Guytronic's Avatar
    I rooted then reflashed my Andread tablet and phones into the ground.
    With Android it's just never enough.
    Wore myself and my devices out checking XDA every damn day for a new ROM version or faster clocks.
    ROMMING is a sickness I tell ya...a sickness!!!
    If I even see init.d or stack overflow I run the other way.

    Glad I broke myself of it with a Windows 8 device.
    I no longer have the desire I just want to tap, swipe, type and have stuff work.
    Last edited by Guytronic; 12-11-2013 at 12:37 PM. Reason: changed wording
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    12-09-2013 01:09 AM
  20. Ashish Saraf1's Avatar
    I rooted my Andread tablet and phones into the ground.
    With Android it's just never enough.
    Wore myself and my devices out checking XDA every damn day for a new ROM version or faster clocks.
    ROMMING is a sickness I tell ya...a sickness!!!
    If I even see init.d or stack overflow I run the other way.

    Glad I broke myself of it with a Windows 8 device.
    I no longer have the desire I just want to tap, swipe, type and have stuff work.
    I agree

    I have spent countless hours flashing my android phone...its addictive and there is no end to it...infact i almost bricked my Desire HD

    Thats why i simply love wp8

    sent either from my Nokia Lumia 820 or HTC Desire HD
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    12-09-2013 01:50 AM
  21. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I know people keep banging on about how WP is behind the other top OS but having the ability flash custom ROMs isn't going to make WP better in my eyes. It's going to take a very good programmer to get through the security of WP which makes me wonder how stable a custom ROM would be.

    Aside from the 'options' comment I would really like to know a good reason for a custom ROM. What's the point? The whole idea of WP is simplicity. What you're trying to do is make it more complex. That's what I don't get.
    Guytronic and neo158 like this.
    12-09-2013 05:47 AM
  22. anony_mouse's Avatar
    I know people keep banging on about how WP is behind the other top OS but having the ability flash custom ROMs isn't going to make WP better in my eyes. It's going to take a very good programmer to get through the security of WP which makes me wonder how stable a custom ROM would be.

    Aside from the 'options' comment I would really like to know a good reason for a custom ROM. What's the point? The whole idea of WP is simplicity. What you're trying to do is make it more complex. That's what I don't get.
    That's fine - you don't have to use a custom ROM. There's no reason to worry, though, if other people do.
    FinancialP likes this.
    12-09-2013 07:54 AM
  23. neo158's Avatar
    That's fine - you don't have to use a custom ROM. There's no reason to worry, though, if other people do.
    Let me put it this way then because Android has custom ROMs then WP has to have them, does it?
    Guytronic likes this.
    12-09-2013 10:47 AM
  24. anony_mouse's Avatar
    Let me put it this way then because Android has custom ROMs then WP has to have them, does it?
    Well, some people in this thread seem to want them. Personally I have no opinion. I'm not interested enough in smart phones to reprogram my phone. But I have no problem if other people do. What business is it of mine, or yours, if someone reprograms their WP phone?
    I'm not sure what Android has to do with it? We're talking about WP here.
    FinancialP likes this.
    12-09-2013 11:00 AM
  25. rakesh1995's Avatar
    Why this thread is still alive. Op question has been answered and thus this thread should be closed

    Sent from my Uuusumm Lumia 520 using Tapatalk
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    12-09-2013 11:01 AM
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