02-14-2014 05:04 PM
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  1. jleebiker's Avatar
    Not a list. On my HTC One it's a 4X6 grid which i feel is faster to find an app since you see 24 apps on one screen rather than a list you have to scroll through.
    Once you get more than a certain # of apps installed, you can just hit the alpha letters and go to that group of apps that start with that letter. I find I use this ability all the time. I don't scroll to the app.
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    02-05-2014 01:17 PM
  2. AndyFZ1S's Avatar
    Real nice review I appreciate your niggles, The you tube app does suck and its by no fault of the OS or MS but the bad robot themselves, I hope you have a more enjoyable experience with your 925
    02-05-2014 01:19 PM
  3. MilkyTee's Avatar
    I have to commend you for actually doing research and giving the phone a fair whack.
    I agree, some may be shook when they move to WP from Android and see the dearth of google services apps, but I think there's some pretty great alternatives. Gmail is built into the phone, more or less. HERE and even the stock maps app are fantastic. You've got Nokia music et al. The offical Youtube app is definitely ****e, thanks to Google's "HTML5 trolling" but myTube is brilliant and the developer is always open to hearing about new features etc. Just shoot him a mail and he'll respond personally.

    Bing translate is great, the music matching thing is AMAZING (the one where you hit the search button, then the musical note button and it matches the song playing to a link on the store, Shazam style.), especially if youve opted for an Xbox Music pass. You can go from hearing a song you like on the radio to having it stored on your phone in less than 30 seconds.

    If you give it a bit longer, you'll grow very accustomed to your device. I struggled a little bit when I moved from Android at the beginning of 2013, but I got over that quick and would never go back now. And Windows Phone has never been growing faster than right now. I'm really looking forward to what 2014 brings for the OS, when it springs out of adolescence and becomes a fully mature adult.

    And again, kudos for giving the phone an actual go and giving some educated feedback. The number of morons who say "OMG brought it bak in 20 mins cuz it diddnt has Candee Crush!?!!" infuriates me.
    02-05-2014 01:19 PM
  4. Jazmac's Avatar
    Good you tried it. It will take longer than a trial to get with this OS. Seriously.
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    02-05-2014 01:48 PM
  5. Ivin Laney's Avatar
    Good you tried it. It will take longer than a trial to get with this OS. Seriously.
    What do you mean? I think a month is enough time to get the OS.
    02-05-2014 02:16 PM
  6. Greywolf1967's Avatar
    Ivin welcome to WP !!
    I have no issue at all with someone who gives an OS a fair shot and can give both Plus and Neg notes.
    First it shows a willingness to keep an open mind and enjoy the process of learning something new!!

    I hope you will enjoy your newest WP !!!

    Thank you for a fair minded review and your thoughts !!!!!!!!!
    Ivin Laney likes this.
    02-05-2014 02:22 PM
  7. mister2d's Avatar
    Wrap Up
    ...I felt that there was nothing to detract me from what already is proven to work for me. That is my problem with WP. I feel that it has almost everything ANY smartphone user could ask for. It just doesn't have anything to make me say that it is better than the alternative....
    I think this happens to people quite a bit. We have been pushed into this thinking that we have to hate the old and love the new to embrace the new.

    Mobile devices today have so much parity, and all that's needed is to find something that fits the most. In my experience WP fits me the most, and I don't necessarily need it to blow the competition away for me to use it.
    02-05-2014 05:14 PM
  8. CSJr1's Avatar
    Welcome to the WP community! It will be interesting to see how much creativity you have with your start screen! http://forums.windowscentral.com/win.../201935-84.htm
    02-05-2014 08:28 PM
  9. HaibaneReki's Avatar
    Thanks for the honest review.

    I was drawn to WP thanks the looks of the N9->L800. And then it won me with its simplicity and general metro design language. Android now repels me and I find iOS overwhelmingly boring - but there's a saying in CZ: “A habit is a shirt made of iron.” ... right?


    so we need to concentrate on the newcomers to smartphones then!
    02-06-2014 08:33 AM
  10. HaibaneReki's Avatar
    Welcome to the WP community! It will be interesting to see how much creativity you have with your start screen! http://forums.windowscentral.com/win.../201935-84.htm
    LOVE Your sig. quote
    02-06-2014 08:34 AM
  11. radmanvr's Avatar
    I find it interesting that people actually use the app list. I just have all my icons on the main screen and scroll down to where it is. Yes I remember their placements
    02-06-2014 08:48 AM
  12. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    This was a good review. Though the lag thing...its not so much launching apps so much as over a period of time android phones grow to be laggy whereas even on the lowest common denominator windows phone their performance is still the same as it was out of the box.

    That was probably my only disagreement.

    Also the app list, its quite simple for me to just click the letter and find the app there vs a grid of icons and having to scroll through and find them.
    02-06-2014 08:57 AM
  13. fredd's Avatar
    You are using lowest end device of wp platform so it may take time to load but if you use lumia 920 and higher than that than u will be really enjoying wp platform as they have best functionality....!
    I If you are really going to give something a test you should get the best one they have. By buying the low end phone and compairing it to other platforms is not a true test at all
    02-06-2014 09:10 AM
  14. planoman's Avatar
    Nice! I use three platforms currently in devices and phones. Macbook pro, windows 8.1 desktop, iPad 4, nexus 7, just got a dell venue pro 8 inch for $200 that I have yet to set up, xbox 360, an iPhone 5, moto x (daily driver), nexus 5 and lumia 925.

    All have strong areas and areas that need improvement.

    For my lumia, I love the pictures and the tiles. While the apps are getting better, there are some that I really need when traveling which I do frequently. Using the browser is not the same as having an app namely Southwest Airlines and Marriott. I use them so much that it is hard to travel without them. American Airlines and Avis are on board!

    I would l love to have more Google apps like Google Now but I can get along without it but it is quite handy. Overall I like WP enough to stay plugged in and looking forward to some new and exiting devices and 8.1 coming this year.

    Sent from my Moto X!
    02-06-2014 12:11 PM
  15. Ivin Laney's Avatar
    I If you are really going to give something a test you should get the best one they have. By buying the low end phone and compairing it to other platforms is not a true test at all
    I wouldn't really say i was comparing. I just wanted a quick and inexpensive way to experience WP. There was no way with my reservations that i was going to spend 250+ just to try something for a month. After my experience i decided to permanently add a WP to my collection. Hence why i order a 925 that will be here today.
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    02-06-2014 12:14 PM
  16. worldspy99's Avatar
    This was a good review. Though the lag thing...its not so much launching apps so much as over a period of time android phones grow to be laggy whereas even on the lowest common denominator windows phone their performance is still the same as it was out of the box.

    That was probably my only disagreement.

    Also the app list, its quite simple for me to just click the letter and find the app there vs a grid of icons and having to scroll through and find them.
    If you are really going to give something a test you should get the best one they have. By buying the low end phone and compairing it to other platforms is not a true test at all
    In my opinion, what WP8 does well is that even on low end devices it is quite fluid, you do not have to buy the top end hardware to get a good experience. I believe Google realized this as well and hence KitKat and Moto G. Android get seriously slow the more you use it. As I keep adding apps to my 810, I have yet to encounter an issue. On iOS there is no question of low or high end, Apple only makes high end hardware phones - before everyone starts informing me about iPhone 4S still being available there are multiple reports of iOS 7 peforming poorly on that device - and you cannot compare the cost of a iPhone 4S running iOS 7 with a Lumia 520 running WP8 GDR3:-)
    02-06-2014 12:17 PM
  17. Ivin Laney's Avatar
    I find it interesting that people actually use the app list. I just have all my icons on the main screen and scroll down to where it is. Yes I remember their placements
    My issue with that is that I dislike scrolling through a home screen/start screen to find an app that i use often. That goes for my android and iOS devices as well.
    02-06-2014 12:17 PM
  18. juanitoriv's Avatar
    My issue with that is that I dislike scrolling through a home screen/start screen to find an app that i use often. That goes for my android and iOS devices as well.
    So pin it higher up
    02-06-2014 12:18 PM
  19. planoman's Avatar
    I wouldn't really say i was comparing. I just wanted a quick and inexpensive way to experience WP. There was no way with my reservations that i was going to spend 250+ just to try something for a month. After my experience i decided to permanently add a WP to my collection. Hence why i order a 925 that will be here today.
    Look forward to hearing about your 925! I really like mine! I am on ATT and it has been updated to black/GDR3 and it is pretty nice! Just wish it had 32GB or SD card. Skybox seems a tad slower than drive and drop box.

    Sent from my Moto X!
    02-06-2014 12:21 PM
  20. Ivin Laney's Avatar
    In my opinion, what WP8 does well is that even on low end devices it is quite fluid, you do not have to buy the top end hardware to get a good experience. I believe Google realized this as well and hence KitKat and Moto G. Android get seriously slow the more you use it. As I keep adding apps to my 810, I have yet to encounter an issue. On iOS there is no question of low or high end, Apple only makes high end hardware phones - before everyone starts informing me about iPhone 4S still being available there are multiple reports of iOS 7 peforming poorly on that device - and you cannot compare the cost of a iPhone 4S running iOS 7 with a Lumia 520 running WP8 GDR3:-)
    That's the second time in this post I've seen someone say this about android devices getting slower over time. I have never experienced this and am curious to know what device did you have that did this. I have never had a low end phone before this one so it may be a low end android issue. I agree with the iPhone 4s part though. I never keep my iPhones longer than the refresh because Apple always seems to find a way to mess them up after a while. It's a good thing they pay for themselves every year or i wouldn't always have one.
    02-06-2014 12:21 PM
  21. planoman's Avatar
    That's the second time in this post I've seen someone say this about android devices getting slower over time. I have never experienced this and am curious to know what device did you have that did this. I have never had a low end phone before this one so it may be a low end android issue. I agree with the iPhone 4s part though. I never keep my iPhones longer than the refresh because Apple always seems to find a way to mess them up after a while. It's a good thing they pay for themselves every year or i wouldn't always have one.
    I have not seen this with android either. I have had over 12 android phones but not longer than 9 months so that may be why.

    Sent from my Moto X!
    02-06-2014 12:24 PM
  22. Giddora's Avatar
    My detailed history:

    HTC Hero, HTC Droid Incredible, Sony Ericsson Xperia X1, Galaxy S, HTC Nexus One, HTC Evo 4G, HTC Sensation, Galaxy SII, LG Optimus 4D, Galaxy SII LTE, Galaxy SII Skyrocket, Samsung Nexus, Motorola Razr Maxx, Samsung Galaxy SIII.

    All of them slowed down from everyday usage. They also became unstable with time.
    02-06-2014 02:18 PM
  23. tonybessette's Avatar
    I have a question because I've never used an android device. If you had the same long list of apps and wanted to get to an infrequently used one, how do you do it? Is there not a list somewhere you'd have to scroll through or multiple pages to flip through?
    This. With Android, if the app you want is at the end of your list...and you have seven home screens, you have to scroll through seven home screens to get to it. Same if you have 100+ apps in your "app drawer". So scrolling down on a Windows Phone...IMHO is easier and less frustrating. I have had countless Android phones and iPhones, and I like my Lumia 1520 better by far.
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    02-06-2014 02:22 PM
  24. mspace81's Avatar
    Ivin, I really enjoyed reading your posts. I am agnostic when it comes to tech. I have a Mac, a Nexus 7, Note 3. I was curious about WP8 and bought a Nokia 520. There are some things that I really like about windows and some things I don't. With my current needs, the note 3 works best, that spen I use several times a day. I use the 520 for my weekend phone. Microsoft has something they can really build here with Windows Phone. I feel that if they really just put more focus and attention on their mobile department, it'll really take off. Windows offers a fresh look from Android and iPhone. I agree about the scrolling for apps. I use a launcher on my note so I only have 2 home screens and set it up in a way that my most used apps are readily available. Any apps that I may not use regularly, I just use Google search and type in a few letters or just tell it to launch the app.

    I would try a higher end windows phone, but I made my resolution that I would either buy no tech toys this year or only one lol. And I'm kinda eyeballing the Surface Pro 2....that thing is a beast!! I really really like the 1020, because it makes my crappy photography look like a masterpiece lol. Windows has definitely improved since I last tried it in 2010. I'm very excited to see where they go with this.

    Posted via the WPC App for Android!
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    02-06-2014 02:54 PM
  25. Ivin Laney's Avatar
    Ivin, I really enjoyed reading your posts. I am agnostic when it comes to tech. I have a Mac, a Nexus 7, Note 3. I was curious about WP8 and bought a Nokia 520. There are some things that I really like about windows and some things I don't. With my current needs, the note 3 works best, that spen I use several times a day. I use the 520 for my weekend phone. Microsoft has something they can really build here with Windows Phone. I feel that if they really just put more focus and attention on their mobile department, it'll really take off. Windows offers a fresh look from Android and iPhone. I agree about the scrolling for apps. I use a launcher on my note so I only have 2 home screens and set it up in a way that my most used apps are readily available. Any apps that I may not use regularly, I just use Google search and type in a few letters or just tell it to launch the app.

    I would try a higher end windows phone, but I made my resolution that I would either buy no tech toys this year or only one lol. And I'm kinda eyeballing the Surface Pro 2....that thing is a beast!! I really really like the 1020, because it makes my crappy photography look like a masterpiece lol. Windows has definitely improved since I last tried it in 2010. I'm very excited to see where they go with this.

    Posted via the WPC App for Android!
    Thanks for agreeing with me on the scrolling issue. I don't think people know what i mean. I only have one home screen and 1.5 pages in my app drawer. I also agree with you on the windows building a nice foundation. Do let me know how you like the surface pro 2 if you do decide to pick one up. I don't know if I'm ready to jump head first into a windows only device as i adore OSX. Again, thanks and i appreciate your feedback!!
    02-06-2014 03:31 PM
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