I'm talking about processes, not apps. I was wondering if there was a way to see which exes that are running and be able to kill them if desired. Something along the lines of Sysinternals Process Explorer, an MS product now.
It would also be nice to be able to see network connections and the exes that are using them, as well as any listening ports. Maybe something like Sysinternals TCPView.
Is it hard to port that stuff over from the desktop environment to the mobile environment? I was thinking that the manufacturers and carriers would prefer we didn't have access to that kind of info though.
The WP8 API for 3rd party developers is very limited; it'd be pretty much impossible for any developer except the ones that develop the OS to implement.
That was the answer I expected. I thought Apple were the uber control freaks, but stuff like that works on their phones. You can see running daemons and netstat type information. At least you could on the iOS version I had which was quite old, it may have changed by now.
Thanks for your reply.
that was on jailbroken devices. if WP was rooted, then we'd have much more control.
This thread will give you a better idea of why you don't need what you're asking for:
http://forums.windowscentral.com/wi...naging-background-apps-why-you-dont-need.html
Thanks for the link, but it's not relevant to my question.
Care to elaborate why you'd want that feature? In regard to background processes, WP8.1 is looking to be quite different from WP8.0, so I'd like such a feature just to further my understanding of the OS. From a normal user's point of view, I'm not sure what the point would be. If you're going to start killing OS owned background processes you'll just be postponing a full reboot by no more than a couple minutes anyway.
I like to know what my devices are doing and who they are talking to. I keep an eye on running processes on my laptops/PCs, and have done the same with phones that allow it. It's a good way to know what they are up to, what might be wrong, and why they might be running slow or chewing up battery life. It also gives good insight into any possible malware you might have, particularly if you are aware of what is usually running and what isn't. Even if I can't kill processes I'd like to be able to see them. I don't mind killing processes anyway; if the phone crashes it's not that big a deal.
I don't know much about WPx from a security standpoint, but I would assume there are multiple vulnerabilities. There is no firewall for phones that I know of so that makes you even more vulnerable, particularly as you are connected to the net pretty much 24/7. Connecting to public WIFI brings a whole other level of exposure. Having browsed through the store it appears that there are all kinds of shabby looking apps, and who knows who wrote them and what they might be up to. I don't know if there is any kind of vetting process for apps in the store, but even if there is that's no guarantee of anything. The best protection right now might be that WP has such small marketshare that it probably isn't worth a hacker's time. They will be more likely to go after iOS and Android at this point, but that may change.
Bottom line, I'm not comfortable just blindly using these things and hoping for the best.
It actually explains why what you want isn't possible, therefore it is relevant.Thanks for the link, but it's not relevant to my question.
If you read my linked post, then you'd understand that the processes that are running are:I like to know what my devices are doing and who they are talking to. I keep an eye on running processes on my laptops/PCs, and have done the same with phones that allow it. It's a good way to know what they are up to, what might be wrong, and why they might be running slow or chewing up battery life. It also gives good insight into any possible malware you might have, particularly if you are aware of what is usually running and what isn't. Even if I can't kill processes I'd like to be able to see them. I don't mind killing processes anyway; if the phone crashes it's not that big a deal.
I don't know much about WPx from a security standpoint, but I would assume there are multiple vulnerabilities. There is no firewall for phones that I know of so that makes you even more vulnerable, particularly as you are connected to the net pretty much 24/7. Connecting to public WIFI brings a whole other level of exposure. Having browsed through the store it appears that there are all kinds of shabby looking apps, and who knows who wrote them and what they might be up to. I don't know if there is any kind of vetting process for apps in the store, but even if there is that's no guarantee of anything. The best protection right now might be that WP has such small marketshare that it probably isn't worth a hacker's time. They will be more likely to go after iOS and Android at this point, but that may change.
Bottom line, I'm not comfortable just blindly using these things and hoping for the best.
As long as humans are imperfect, so will be OS'. ;-) What is different about WP is the nature of possible imperfections, as many potentially dangerous or unwanted scenarios are ruled out by design.I do assume there are multiple vulnerabilities, known to us or not. I can't imagine this is the first vulnerability-free OS ever. If it is then hats off to MS.
I've actually done that. WP turned out to be the most boring OS I've ever looked at in this regard. If you've got location services turned on, WP collects and contributes to MS' Wi-Fi positioning database (one of the OS processes). Other than that the MPNS service is the only other service that exchanges data packets behind your back. All that is left are the periodic background agents and the foreground app, all of which are directly represented in the UI. My point is that there really isn't that much to see.I suppose you can connect to WiFi and sniff the traffic, but a lot of it is encrypted. You could still see connections I guess, assuming they didn't use cellular.