[Ebuka Allison]

As far as communicating with my friends is concerned Yes. While having the one location for all messages (I loved it back in the days of WP7 etc) was convenient if i ever received Rich content (ie images or other things) then i couldn't view that in the built in message centre. All i would get was a URL which when touched would open up ie and never load the link properly for a variety of reasons.

The only way around that originally was to open the facebook app and check in there which was slow to load as i had to wait for the feeds to update before i could get to messaging. Now the facebook messenger app is available i get best of both worlds a quick loading app that gets to the point and allow me to properly view any content sent to me in chat by my friends.

The bug bear that came from that was having 3 different things notify me all at once. Granted I was able to turn of message notifications on the Facebook app but the messaging centre ties into the phone settings and as i want to keep my contacts facebook details i was stuck with that service being left on and driving me crazy every time i got a message.

Now with WP8.1 only one application tells me i have messages and i get properly informed of them via the "Action centre"

So tell me how is that not "better"???

Not Juts that, some times the me tile would refuse to clear itself. At times, the Facebook messages I get fail to reach me, and the overall experience was horrible.

[Ebuka Allison]

Because of this:


Before that, I ALWAYS received my notifications from the mesages hub.



Lumia 820.

I have a 625 on 8.1 and a 620 on 8.0. I have no reason to use the 8.0 phone sine the 8.1 one works better. I'm not an android fan or anything. I just like the increased customisability. Spent all night setting up custom alerts. So far I've had no problems at all. Try uninstalling/reinstalling

[clechner77]

I guarantee Facebook is for the better. Removing it from the core allows far faster and more frequent updates. It also sets the tone for other social integration at the app devs discretion -- see goodle plus, yammer, etc. Pulling back also puts Microsoft in a more neutral field so they don't favor Facebook over google and can start to play nice again.

[Gustavo Molitor Porcides]

I saw this in another thread to do with Whatsapp. The workarounds are to try either disabling wifi sense or data sense.

Well, apparently it worked. Let's see for how long.

Thanks anyway. It was one of the things that annoyed me the most. Other than that, I welcome most of the changes.

[mikeycl]

I'm using a Lumia 925. my only real complaint is with battery life so far.

i had a fully charged battery at 7am (UK time) its now 12:49 and i have 53% left. i get the feeling this may be resolved in a future OS update or firmware update from nokia (Cyan update anyone).

funny thing is since using battery sense it is showing me that my Kindle App is the main culprit (looks like Amazon may have some work to do)

[Darren Walsh]

I have zero of any of those issues! Lucky me!! Maybe cos I did a hard reset

[vinscg]

Glad im still on gdr3! It really is bug free.

[iAdrian23]

Why does a moderator even let a thread like this open?
Let me put this bluntly, MICROSOFT will fix everything one step at a time. They are really minor bugs that will undoubtedly won't get past Developer Preview.

That list is pure s**t. How many posts are even valid? How many are just duplicates?
Out of ~30 pages from http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...tm#post2473089, I've only managed to find 10 VALID bugs (probably 5 more if I take into consideration Cortana related/ VPN). 34 pages ~ 14 bugs means 1 bug every 8 and a half page. If we were to divide the 600 posts on MSDN, it would get us ~70 bugs and I highly doubt there are that many

[mikeycl]

Well, apparently it worked. Let's see for how long.

Thanks anyway. It was one of the things that annoyed me the most. Other than that, I welcome most of the changes.

hopefully it gets fixed properly soon but that at least should tide you over till it is fixed.

[birgs]

Wp8.1 Work on my phone very smooth..my all friends plans to buy windows phones.. They like background picture... You don't need any themes to downloads because picture can be instant themes.

[Painkillerhu]

I see no reason why they changes the photos hub style....X(

[Muessig]

Why does a moderator even let a thread like this open?
Let me put this bluntly, MICROSOFT will fix everything one step at a time. They are really minor bugs that will undoubtedly won't get past Developer Preview.

That list is pure s**t. How many posts are even valid? How many are just duplicates?
Out of ~30 pages from http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...tm#post2473089, I've only managed to find 10 VALID bugs (probably 5 more if I take into consideration Cortana related/ VPN). 34 pages ~ 14 bugs means 1 bug every 8 and a half page. If we were to divide the 600 posts on MSDN, it would get us ~70 bugs and I highly doubt there are that many

Why do we let a thread like this to go on? Because we like discussion at WPCentral and we know that not everyone is going to agree on everything. As long as everyone I polite and doesn't become insulting or try to shout others down there's no reason we can't have a good discussion saying what we don't like and why.

I think you all have to bear in mind that when you installed the developer preview you should have been very aware this is not final software, even OEMs change and bug test the OS and work with Microsoft before anything is released OTA.

[Soumyasish D]

I don't get any bluetooth icon after enabling it.. lumia 720

[fzkpfw]

i am one of the people who enjoy this update, despite the bugs that occured..
I believe that the separation of app are necessary for future of windows integration between pc and wp..


Sent from my 1215B using Tapatalk

[Soumyasish D]

I'm also enjoying the update very much can anyone confirm that when you switch on the bluetooth does the icon come at top of the screen?

[microSkop]

I agree with iAdrian23. These pointless threads need some moderation.

[crystal_planet]

This is RTM version, it's already getting shafted on the new phones... Dev preview just lets you get it earlier than OEMS prepares it for you devices or carriers decides to give it to you
It isn't an actual beta, but with that many issues i can see RTM getting delayed and fixed properly, because now it's ridiculous

R.I.P - WP It was good while it lasted

Oh my God. I'm so sorry. Are you going to be okay?

Listen, if you need some therapy or a shoulder to cry on, I'm here my friend.

I can't help but think Microsoft screwed up 8.1 on purpose because it hates everyone but Americans. It simply does not care about anyone else.[/sarcasm]

Okay. I'm kidding. I think you are being a touch dramatic - and by "touch" I actually mean "a boatload". I like the update - I'm not a sunshine pumper, but the features many were screaming for since the dawn of time are here. Yes, there are flaws - but if you don't like them you can either wait or go somewhere else.

It's pretty simple.

[Soumyasish D]

hello can anyone confirm with the issue I'm facing with my lumia 720 the bluetooth icon not showing up at top while switched on.... Im not whining about the issue just want to know if anyone facing the same ... :)

somebody please confirm if its a issue or not.. :(

[fiveaces01]

First off let me say I am glad that Facebook is not so deeply rooted in the os. I don't use it. If I want to talk to my friends or associates I call or text. What I do use my phone for is internet access (usually information related), checking email, GPS navigation, personal assistant and day planner (love Cortana!) and MUSIC. The only problem I have had with the update is the inability to see IE in the desktop mode, even when it is set to display that way. Hopefully this is something MS intends to fix. Can't imagine they would have left the option there if it was not intended to be functional. I have been a vocal and frequent critic of the Xbox Music App at this site. I loved all the steady improvements they had made to the Music Hub and the ability to have the Live Tile showing the artist now playing. I even had the ability to use the MPATool app to choose pics of the artist I liked as the background art for that tile. Everyone that saw my phone marveled at how cool it looked. All of that is gone. For what reason? I have read long and hard and the only response I have seen is that it was so they could send out updates easier. I am not buying that as the reason...especially considering how many updates we saw in the last 18 months. I love my WP..still a big supporter of the os, I just want some reasonably attractive and functional local music file player.

[jomarr]

I am disappointed with the outing of the Facebook integration with Messaging just because it circumvents the filter of the firewall in my office. Facebook is banned from the office and that's the only way I could use chat.

Another thing is Xbox Music is crap.

But overall, I am pretty satisfied with the update. Initial releases of software updates are always buggy. We couldn't really expect WP 8.1 to be running flawlessly 100%. We know this is the full version and basically not a preview but as a WPCentral member you should know that this will be buggy and that's why Microsoft still isn't rolling it out. They want people who truly follow Microsoft to have a taste of Windows Phone 8.1 and to know what they like and dislike. Of course this is the real deal but we shouldn't really expect it to run perfectly. Hell, even KitKat and iOS 7 suffered from major bugs when it was initially released, why the exception for Windows Phone?

All I'm saying is that Microsoft gave us the privilege to actually test it out first. Again this is the full version and these types of queries are minor and will be addressed shortly before the release of Windows Phone 8.1 devices. I'm not sure about Facebook integration going back just because Facebook Messenger runs perfectly. There are things that we should complain like glitches and bugs and there are some things we need to deal with like Facebook integration.

If you didn't like the update then you should've known better not to install it in the first place or at least let the others install first then get feedback from WPCentral.

[Ebuka Allison]

It doesn't show unless it's in use.

[cckgz4]

I get notifications instantly as well

[StevoPhilo]

THe thing is, it is just that. It's a preview. What do you expect? If they did any fixes I would think that they would apply it to the final build rather than the preview and the final build. These bugs will get kinked out by the time 8.1 arrives

[anon(5969054)]

THe thing is, it is just that. It's a preview. What do you expect? If they did any fixes I would think that they would apply it to the final build rather than the preview and the final build. These bugs will get kinked out by the time 8.1 arrives

Must we repeat ourselves a million times? This is FINAL. This is on the 630 next month.

[Ebuka Allison]

Must we repeat ourselves a million times? This is FINAL. This is on the 630 next month.

The os is. The apps are however not