1. dakshay95's Avatar
    Once the Cyan update is available in my country, India for Lumia 520, will I be able to download it immediately or do I have to wait for a separate version to be released for Preview for Developers users? I don't use BitLocker.

    Also, do you think updating to WP 8.1 Update 1 will solve the battery drain issues?
    manikantg likes this.
    07-30-2014 09:54 AM
  2. anon(7900571)'s Avatar
    First part answer :- you to wait for a fix for developer preview , you won't get cyan until there is a patch from Microsoft. Second way is to downgrade your device to windows phone 8 via nokia recovery tool and wait for cyan/windows phone 8.1 update.

    Second part answer :- maybe maybe not. This is something to deal with firmware updates like lumia cyan firmware update for windows phone 8.1.
    Guytronic likes this.
    07-30-2014 10:22 AM
  3. dakshay95's Avatar
    How about this: Downgrade to WP8, get Cyan update, register for PFD and get GDR1 update? Would you suggest getting the GDR1 update before Cyan?
    07-30-2014 10:42 AM
  4. dakshay95's Avatar
    How about this: Downgrade to WP8, get Cyan update, register for PFD and get GDR1 update? Would you suggest getting the GDR1 update before Cyan?

    EDIT: Sorry, made duplicate post by mistake
    07-30-2014 10:47 AM
  5. anon(7900571)'s Avatar
    How about this: Downgrade to WP8, get Cyan update, register for PFD and get GDR1 update? Would you suggest getting the GDR1 update before Cyan?
    You can opt for GDR1 update after receiving cyan update. It's personal preference if you want to test out or get your hands on windows phone 8.1 GDR1 update early ;)
    Guytronic likes this.
    07-30-2014 10:51 AM
  6. mikeycl's Avatar
    i bit the bullet and downgraded my Lumia 925 to WP8 and then got Cyan immediately and have now re-enrolled on the DP.

    Personally i felt happier with it that way. But it ultimately shouldn't matter how you do it, it should all work as intended.
    svknet likes this.
    07-30-2014 10:56 AM
  7. dakshay95's Avatar
    i bit the bullet and downgraded my Lumia 925 to WP8 and then got Cyan immediately and have now re-enrolled on the DP.

    Personally i felt happier with it that way. But it ultimately shouldn't matter how you do it, it should all work as intended.
    How's your 925 doing? At which stage do you think it was working best: 8.1 with Black or 8.1 with Cyan? I have a Lumia 520 so it's not as if I'm gonna enjoy many of the features brought by Cyan or GDR1 for that matter. Just hope they sort out the battery issues and Facebook/Messenger integration has a long way to go too.
    07-30-2014 11:01 AM
  8. ScottGeek's Avatar
    i bit the bullet and downgraded my Lumia 925 to WP8 and then got Cyan immediately and have now re-enrolled on the DP.

    Personally i felt happier with it that way. But it ultimately shouldn't matter how you do it, it should all work as intended.
    Is there any advantage to getting back on DP, if like in my case, I downgraded to get Cyan and then my carrier OTA'ed WP 8.1 to my phone? The end result is I have Cyan with WP 8.1... I'm not really seeing the advantage of going back to DP 8.1... maybe if there is a DP for 8.2 or 9, I would jump on that one.

    Your thoughts?

    ~ScottGeek.
    07-30-2014 12:34 PM
  9. BaritoneGuy's Avatar
    Is there any advantage to getting back on DP, if like in my case, I downgraded to get Cyan and then my carrier OTA'ed WP 8.1 to my phone? The end result is I have Cyan with WP 8.1... I'm not really seeing the advantage of going back to DP 8.1... maybe if there is a DP for 8.2 or 9, I would jump on that one.

    Your thoughts?

    ~ScottGeek.
    Yes, you will get GDR1 next week if you are on the DP.
    ScottGeek likes this.
    07-30-2014 05:42 PM
  10. mikeycl's Avatar
    How's your 925 doing? At which stage do you think it was working best: 8.1 with Black or 8.1 with Cyan? I have a Lumia 520 so it's not as if I'm gonna enjoy many of the features brought by Cyan or GDR1 for that matter. Just hope they sort out the battery issues and Facebook/Messenger integration has a long way to go too.
    So far so good. i've not changed any settings especially in regards to battery and there is a noticeable improvement in efficiency of battery life. otherwise it seems to perform the same possibly a few less resuming screens etc. The pairing of Cyan and 8.1 definitely seems worthwhile in my books but as always "results may vary"

    Is there any advantage to getting back on DP, if like in my case, I downgraded to get Cyan and then my carrier OTA'ed WP 8.1 to my phone? The end result is I have Cyan with WP 8.1... I'm not really seeing the advantage of going back to DP 8.1... maybe if there is a DP for 8.2 or 9, I would jump on that one.
    i re-added the DP basically to be ready for whatever next release comes about and as soon as i registered it instantly wanted to update to a newer build (from 8.1.12393.890 to 8.10.12397.895) Besides as i am in the UK I want access to Cortana and update 1 from next week.

    At the end of the day it is down to your preference if you're happy with things as they are on the handset then wait for Cyan to be made available. If you're having some troubles then doing a full backup and then downgrading / upgrading may be worth your while. although make sure the Cyan update is availble for your handset and carrier in your country first. That info can be found Here

    For the record the procedure i took was to backup the handset in full. Use the Nokia recovery tool to go back to Black/8.0 (thank you Amy Winehouse) ran the phone through first config and didn't setup any accounts. Updated to Cyan/8.1 then did a hard reset. Once that was completed i setup the phone as normal restored my files and handset backup then installed the DP and upgraded again to latest DP build.
    James8561 likes this.
    07-31-2014 03:10 AM
  11. svknet's Avatar
    i bit the bullet and downgraded my Lumia 925 to WP8 and then got Cyan immediately and have now re-enrolled on the DP.

    Personally i felt happier with it that way. But it ultimately shouldn't matter how you do it, it should all work as intended.
    How much time it took to downgrade from WP8.1 DP to WP8 using recovery tool? And how much data was needed to load WP8 back.
    I am confused whether to downgrade to WP8, because I am having 620, and I am sure WP8.1 GDR1 would arrive before Cyan.
    07-31-2014 06:49 AM
  12. Helder Costa1's Avatar
    i downgraded from 8.1 DP to 8.0 trough nokia recovery and took about 1,30 to 2 hours... very easy to do.
    07-31-2014 07:02 AM
  13. dakshay95's Avatar
    Here's the latest for us PFD users: Windows Phone 8.1 Preview users won't need to downgrade their OS to get Update 1 | Windows Phone Central

    Hope Facebook integration, clipboard and battery life get better on the GDR1 update. Being a Lumia 520 owner, can't really ask for more...
    07-31-2014 07:51 AM
  14. dakshay95's Avatar
    On a completely different note, is it possible to clear the live tile counter of a particular app on the start screen without having to open said app? I find that clearing any toast notifications I have received from WhatsApp clears the live tile counter of WhatsApp as well as removes the WhatsApp symbol from the lock screen but this doesn't follow suit for the Messenger app and I manually have to open it to actually get rid of the tile counter and its symbol on the lock screen.


    Sent from my Lumia 520 using Tapatalk
    07-31-2014 10:53 AM
  15. Skamath's Avatar
    Ok Just to get this right. The confusion is weather to go from 8.1DP to GDR1 DP with Black FW or to go from 8.1 DP to 8.0 and then CYAN followed by GDR1. Have I got this right.
    Wouldnt it make sense to go back to 8.0 get Cyan and then jump to GDR1 since you will have Cyan FW instead of Black FW? For a matter of 2-3 Hours ( I doubt it is the case with everyone) I would rather get CYAN if available then go to GDR if not by all means direct. to GDR1.

    Just wondering what the experts have to say on my scenario. As usual We are still waiting for the Cyan in AUS. Getting GDR1 and waiting for MS to fix the F*(kup to get CYAN or wait to get Cyan since I have already waited this long and then get GDR1.
    FYI I didnt opt in for DP of 8.1. But like someone here said to access Cortana (in its infancy), battery issues and other "features" I wouldnt mind risking GDR1 :)

    Advice?
    08-01-2014 03:03 AM
  16. dakshay95's Avatar
    I think you should register for DP. What device do you have?
    Sent from my Lumia 520 using Tapatalk
    08-02-2014 02:00 PM
  17. Skamath's Avatar
    I have 1020
    08-04-2014 02:01 AM
  18. dakshay95's Avatar
    Update 1 has been released today. You should register and get it... :)
    08-04-2014 10:14 AM
  19. Asfalloth's Avatar
    Cortana Beta on my lumia 930 UK, boom!!! Quiet hours ftw
    08-04-2014 10:37 AM
  20. GeorgeX's Avatar
    How much time it took to downgrade from WP8.1 DP to WP8 using recovery tool? And how much data was needed to load WP8 back.
    I am confused whether to downgrade to WP8, because I am having 620, and I am sure WP8.1 GDR1 would arrive before Cyan.
    My 620 was on Lumia Black & PFD 8.1 (version 8.10.12397.895). Today I checked for updates and an update was available (GDR1). I did not download it, I thought I should get out of the PFD and check again for updates, in case Cyan was available. Maybe I could update to Cyan without downgrading first, and then upgrading to GDR1.
    So I run Preview for Developers, unchecked the box and then went to Settings -> Phone Updates again. Without checking again, it said "an update is avalailable", so I press "download". Well guess what, it was still the GDR1 update from the previous check. I am on 8.10.14147.180 now.

    Am I going to get a notification about the Cyan update when that is available? I guess I won't be able to install it without downgrading fist.
    Are there any firmware updates for the 620 with the Lumia Cyan? If there are no firmware updates available, maybe it's not worth downgrading to get Cyan. Can someone post firmware version numbers for 620 with Cyan update?

    My 620 with Black update has:
    firmware revision number 3056.40000.1404.0002
    hardware revision number 5.0.4.0
    radio software version 2.0.242028.8

    Just noticed that "Extras+Info" Setting does not run anymore: "there is a problem with this app".
    08-04-2014 11:05 AM
  21. Skamath's Avatar
    My 620 was on Lumia Black & PFD 8.1 (version 8.10.12397.895). Today I checked for updates and an update was available (GDR1). I did not download it, I thought I should get out of the PFD and check again for updates, in case Cyan was available. Maybe I could update to Cyan without downgrading first, and then upgrading to GDR1.
    So I run Preview for Developers, unchecked the box and then went to Settings -> Phone Updates again. Without checking again, it said "an update is avalailable", so I press "download". Well guess what, it was still the GDR1 update from the previous check. I am on 8.10.14147.180 now.

    Am I going to get a notification about the Cyan update when that is available? I guess I won't be able to install it without downgrading fist.
    Are there any firmware updates for the 620 with the Lumia Cyan? If there are no firmware updates available, maybe it's not worth downgrading to get Cyan. Can someone post firmware version numbers for 620 with Cyan update?

    My 620 with Black update has:
    firmware revision number 3056.40000.1404.0002
    hardware revision number 5.0.4.0
    radio software version 2.0.242028.8

    Just noticed that "Extras+Info" Setting does not run anymore: "there is a problem with this app".
    As per nokia site. Black ver ending 0002 hasnt got Cyan update yet. As far as I know you have not yet downgraded from PFD yet. You have to use Nokia recovery software to downgrade to Black before getting Cyan. Search these forums for more. What you downloaded was PFD update 1 for the 8.1 but your firmware is still same old Lumia Black. For the extras +info I am not sure if it happens to be like that in PFD but you can always download lumia pusher app from store and run it to get system updates for your Lumia

    Hope this helps
    08-06-2014 01:27 AM
  22. Skamath's Avatar
    Update 1 has been released today. You should register and get it... :)
    Update 1 is there I get that but I dont have Cyan yet. What is the point in getting PFD update 1 when I have to go back to Black to get Cyan. I have decided to wait till I get Cyan and then get update 1 :)
    08-06-2014 01:28 AM
  23. Private Nemesis's Avatar
    Just wait. You do NOT need to downgrade any more. Be patient.
    Sent from my Lumia 920 using Tapatalk
    08-06-2014 01:39 AM
  24. boltman2013's Avatar
    I agree I don't think Cyan does much for 520's and would rather have a solid GDR1
    08-06-2014 07:36 AM
  25. dakshay95's Avatar
    Hey, Cyan update is out. So we have two alternatives - downgrade to WP8 and get Cyan or stay on PFD and get Cyan later. Hope the delay isn't too much for PFD users.
    08-14-2014 12:24 PM

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