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  1. SARJINDER KAUR's Avatar
    yes, agree we should still get the final update, cyan for those on developer preview. I have to charge my phone 2-3 times in a 24hout period and I'm not a heavy user. The battery has only been draining since the 8.1 update. Also, since I cannot backup my phone (since 8.1 update), I cannot downgrade or I will lose my game progress and some free apps that ate now not free. I use Lumia 1020.
    08-18-2014 03:24 AM
  2. sameermehta2's Avatar
    I have said enough and now I don't intend to speak further,they have created a world class product and they want to shove it,what is Satya nadella thinking of cloud computing boss what is the percentage of users on WP using it if this is kind of behaviour and I am seriously thinking they are trying to burry the wp and just provide services thats all like bbm
    08-18-2014 04:03 AM
  3. adrian1338's Avatar
    are you crying so passionate about everything? Next time don't enrol into preview/alpha/beta programs and enjoy your devices like the other people in the market. you can still reset your device and go along the way it is intended to be for the average user.
    elmacho, Great deal and M L like this.
    08-18-2014 04:08 AM
  4. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    Another thread full of desperation, sadness and other blabla. Such a pity...

    There is no world without complains though lol.
    M L and David P2 like this.
    08-18-2014 05:13 AM
  5. TechFreak1's Avatar
    Another thread full of desperation, sadness and other blabla. Such a pity...

    There is no world without complains though lol.
    Hey, there is a binge whinger in all of us
    08-18-2014 05:48 AM
  6. Pieter Wolff's Avatar
    I am dying to find out all the improvements Cyan promises to bring but although very tempted I have not joined the Developer Preview as I was fully aware of the hassles this would cause once the official update would be realeased.
    My previous phone was a N9 and for that phone there was a minimal number of official apps available so experimenting was a must to make the most of it.
    Countless times the phone went into a reboot loop, but I knew the risks involved in making the N9 a truly exceptional smartphone.
    So I have learned my lesson and am now waiting for the official release as I'm ok with 8.0 and am not prepared to go through endless downgrades, a bricked or hanging phone.
    I think everyone who went on the Developer Preview could have been aware of the risks involved.
    08-18-2014 06:31 AM
  7. M L's Avatar
    The fact that you are still waiting proves that this HAS NOT gotten enough attention. We need to bring this up to light so that Microsoft may at least notice this issue.
    I was referring to the developer preview. What's this thread about? "We've been using the dp, 8.1, Cortana... for the last 6 months, now we have to downgrade to wp8 to upload the 8.1 update, Microsoft has forgotten us", Whaaa.
    OP even went so far as to state he feels like he's been screwed over by Microsoft. You've gotta be kidding me!
    08-18-2014 08:29 AM
  8. EzMonger's Avatar
    I saw Joe Belfiore reply to someone's tweet about this, basically he told them that Lumia Cyan was a "Hardware" Update... I think Joe is more focused on Software Updates like WP 8.1 Update 1... etc. Not the actual Hardware updates.
    08-18-2014 09:48 AM
  9. loofmodnar's Avatar
    Yes, in fact, they've probably forgotten about WP all together and wandered off into a conference room to play Halo.

    But seriously, it's posts like this that make me wish MS had raised the requirements to install the DP a little bit higher.
    Last edited by loofmodnar; 08-18-2014 at 11:22 AM.
    M L likes this.
    08-18-2014 11:11 AM
  10. MikeSo's Avatar
    Agree that this needs to be addressed by Microsoft. We are their biggest promoters. We should be given the courtesy of information even if "we have no information" is all they say.
    08-18-2014 11:41 AM
  11. David P2's Avatar
    Actually, the ideal thing would be to halt the update for just those devices that use Bitlocker, but I guess that the issue runs deeper than that.

    Anyway, right now they should either resume the update, or at least give us a reason for the delay/ a timeframe.
    Riddle me this... without the phone broadcasting stuff it shouldn't, how would the update servers know the device talking to it has Bitlocker turned on? It can't, and the phone doesn't send such information out so they blocked all users on the Preview as that's the easier thing to do.
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    08-18-2014 01:12 PM
  12. David P2's Avatar
    Yes, in fact, they've probably forgotten about WP all together and wandered off into a conference room to play Halo.

    But seriously, it's posts like this that make me wish MS had raised the requirements to install the DP a little bit higher.
    I doubt they can teach people to read and accept the phrase " using this preview software is at your own risk, and you accept that things can/will go wrong, due to the nature of the software".
    TechFreak1 likes this.
    08-18-2014 01:16 PM
  13. MikeSo's Avatar
    I doubt they can teach people to read and accept the phrase " using this preview software is at your own risk, and you accept that things can/will go wrong, due to the nature of the software".
    All software says that (except the word "preview"). Completely irrelevant.
    08-18-2014 01:38 PM
  14. kevin hill3's Avatar
    I am fairly new to this sight and for the last few months I have enjoyed reading and keeping up to date on all the new Windows OS features, and it was only a few months ago that I updated my 920 to the 8,1 preview, and I do love it. But WOW reading the forums on this sight is like listening to a bunch of spoiled little kids not getting the newest and best toys. Is the Cyan update going to make your phone so much better then it already is? I mean really? If they let it out today and your phone locked up or you had some other problem you would be on here complaining that they didn't get it right and what is wrong with Microsoft. So maybe it is better to wait till they do fix it, and I am sure they will. There is still a lot of people out there still running Windows 8 waiting for the update to 8.1 and if it wasn't for wanting Cortana I would be one of them. But it wasn't a make or break deal that I had to have it, Microsoft made it easy to get and I am happy with my decision to download the preview. And I am happy to wait until they fix the Cyan update, it is not like it will make a new phone out of an old one. Even if you bought a new one with all the new software it would still not work any better than the one you have now.
    MikeSo and Geddeeee like this.
    08-18-2014 01:47 PM
  15. David P2's Avatar
    All software says that (except the word "preview"). Completely irrelevant.
    But with commercial software, you have every right to complain if something goes wrong.
    08-18-2014 01:59 PM
  16. krox1105's Avatar
    Riddle me this... without the phone broadcasting stuff it shouldn't, how would the update servers know the device talking to it has Bitlocker turned on? It can't, and the phone doesn't send such information out so they blocked all users on the Preview as that's the easier thing to do.
    Why does the phone have to broadcast stuff over the internet? A simple if statement in the update code would solve the issue.
    08-18-2014 02:11 PM
  17. krox1105's Avatar
    People here are arguing that beta software comes with its own risks, and that we were warned about them before installing the developer preview.

    Guys, how ignorant can you be? Did you even read my original post? I didn't ask Microsoft to fix every issue right away and put everything else on hold.
    I simply asked them for a confirmation, or a message saying "Yes, we are still working on a fix and it will be some time (a month or so) before we can roll it out."

    Of course that's not to say that I wont be happy if the update started tomorrow.

    The whole purpose of this thread was to bring it to Microsoft's notice that users are waiting for this update, and it would be nice if they could tell us how long would it be until we can expect the update.
    08-18-2014 02:20 PM
  18. krox1105's Avatar
    Also, for the people who think this is just another whine-and-complain thread, why even bother replying to it, then?

    The people who are facing this problem can surely understand and hence express their dissatisfaction here, while the others that understand our problem are here offering helpful advice. We have already got good people here.
    This thread doesn't need you to whine and complain about what you consider whining and complaining.
    08-18-2014 02:26 PM
  19. crussell1492's Avatar
    I am willing to flash to go back to the non Preview release, install Cyan, and then re-install Preview, but does anyone know if Cyan for Icon is available yet, before I jump through these hoops?
    08-18-2014 02:57 PM
  20. David P2's Avatar
    I am willing to flash to go back to the non Preview release, install Cyan, and then re-install Preview, but does anyone know if Cyan for Icon is available yet, before I jump through these hoops?
    Don't do it until you know for certain.
    08-18-2014 03:00 PM
  21. David P2's Avatar
    Why does the phone have to broadcast stuff over the internet? A simple if statement in the update code would solve the issue.
    It would need to tell the update server if it's running Bitlocker or not. THAT's my point.
    08-18-2014 03:01 PM
  22. sameermehta2's Avatar
    are you crying so passionate about everything? Next time don't enrol into preview/alpha/beta programs and enjoy your devices like the other people in the market. you can still reset your device and go along the way it is intended to be for the average user.
    Are you referring to my post
    08-18-2014 03:23 PM
  23. Rasetech's Avatar
    I was tired of the waiting and restored WP 8.1 Cyan to my phone with the Nokia Software Recovery Tool. After that I installed DP again and installed Update 1. Then I restored my backup. Worked very well only that the Store is not accessible right now for my phone so it cant install all the apps again. Hope this will work again soon.
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    08-18-2014 03:32 PM
  24. kevin hill3's Avatar
    I do not see where you think that you have a problem. The only problem with this thread is that you all have no patience and you want it fixed right now. Does your phone have a problem? did it stop working because you did not get the new update? Does anything else you own come with free updates ? The thread had a good title, and yes I wonder when we will get the update, but I found no answers here just complaints about why we should . And I do apologize for my whining about the whiners I just have a problem with spoiled children, sorry, I will strive to do better.
    08-18-2014 03:45 PM
  25. MikeSo's Avatar
    But with commercial software, you have every right to complain if something goes wrong.
    What "right" are you talking about? Who decides that, you? The Preview for Developers is commercial software. You can ***** about a regular release as much as you like you still have no special privilege to demand a fix compared to the DP.
    08-18-2014 03:54 PM
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