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  1. tiziano27's Avatar
    Most of the work of the WP8 iteration was the change of the kernel, no many improvements in features. I suspect Microsoft will present a much improved Windows Phone the next year after 15 months of silent work, this will be the last chance for Elop, if they can't take a significant share of the smartphone sales Elop will be fired and Nokia will add Android to their offer.

    The support of Microsoft is nice, but if Nokia board think they can earn more adding android, they will do it. Nokia has a lot of potential, an EOS with Android would be a success, even the Lumia 925 would sell a lot more with Android, the HTC One is the prove.

    Windows Phone is growing, but is not enough to retain Nokia exclusivity.
    06-19-2013 11:36 AM
  2. MERCDROID's Avatar
    I think these Android trolls that want Nokia to make Android phones are really more worried about the traction Nokia is starting to make with WP.
    I don't think I'm a troll, for wanting more choices. And, why would we be worried? Nokia gaining traction with Windows Phone doesn't necessarily mean the end of Android. Maybe, us Android "trolls" like competition. If Nokia did start making Android handsets, alongside its Windows Phone lineup, then HTC, Samsung, etc would probably be enticed to up the ante. Just sayin'.
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    06-19-2013 11:52 AM
  3. erzhik's Avatar
    Android users will resort to anything these days to get great Nokia hardware. I guess Samsung doesn't cut anymore.
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    06-19-2013 12:02 PM
  4. squire777's Avatar
    Android fans realize that Nokia has superior hardware and want to get in on that so they keep talking crap about a Nokia Android phone. It really isn't going to happen anytime soon.

    Also, I'll check back on this thread when the next HTC earnings report comes out and looks bad once again.
    metalchick719 and In Limbo like this.
    06-19-2013 12:04 PM
  5. In Limbo's Avatar
    We can all agree that Android has it's benefits, but as of now, the OS is clearly of no legitimate interest to Nokia. They jumped ship to WP for a reason. They made an exclusive deal with Microsoft for a reason. It clearly saved them from the worse and now that they're picking up in sales and market share again, there would be zero logic in investing outside of WP -- not for the next few years. If all goes as well as it has been, we'll see one amazing OS from Microsoft and Nokia will be making the most of it. Android just doesn't fit the bill; it's a crowded, congested market.
    WhyFiNYC and snowmutt like this.
    06-19-2013 12:19 PM
  6. a5cent's Avatar
    I read the other day that MSFT gives Nokia 1 BILLION dollars a year to make WP phones. They're not going anywhere.
    You aren't relying on good sources ;-)

    This is what those payments are for:
    • Worldwide licensing rights for Nokia's navigational data, which Microsoft includes and makes freely available via Bing maps. Before MS did that, Bing maps was a complete joke outside of the U.S.
    • Worldwide licensing rights for Nokia Drive, which all other WP OEM's now also have access to. Nokia didn't just give their Nokia Drive app away for free!
    • Compensation for Nokia investing so much time and effort into a fledgling OS, who's existence has yet to be noticed by most consumers. Nokia is helping to build up and market WP, which is theoretically MS' job. This also entails that Nokia focus all of their corporate resources on that goal, which means they stay WP exclusive.
    06-19-2013 03:45 PM
  7. snowmutt's Avatar
    The thread was a prediction. I am not offended by that. No more then all the other predictions that have Nokia as the only WP maker in 2014. Or that BlackBerry will stop making phones and Nokia will adopt BB10. Or that Nokia's back-up plan is actually the old Meego which is now about to launch all new and improved. Or my prediction that the Memphis Grizzlies would be in the NBA finals.



    Predict away. Who in the name of Nostradamus knows what it will look like in 12-18 months. But.... Nokia has a ton of good reasons to ride WP. Microsoft has a tin of good reasons to keep Nokia on board.



    Does SEEM like a natural, huh?
    a5cent, Laura Knotek and MERCDROID like this.
    06-19-2013 05:56 PM
  8. WP8fan's Avatar
    If the sales of lumia handsets increase drastically in q2 and q3 , then nokia wont create android handsets . Otherwise Elop will be fired and nokia will finally adopt android
    Or maybe Microsoft just buys Nokia instead,
    06-19-2013 08:33 PM
  9. WP8Expert's Avatar
    While I agree with some of your points, I guarantee no high-ranking Nokia exec told them to you.
    I'm not naming any names but I asked him about the Lumia 925 and he said its much better than the plasticky GS4. I then asked if there ever is a possibility Nokia will go Droid and thats what he said.
    06-19-2013 09:28 PM
  10. rianash's Avatar
    If Nokia is going for Android, then I'll be forced to use the pricier iPhone.

    I can't.. see.. my.. self.. using.. Android.. I found its UI confusing, not straightforward like iOS and WP.
    Residing and metalchick719 like this.
    06-20-2013 01:00 AM
  11. mase123987's Avatar
    I played Space Invaders with those of which we do not name. They told me Apple was going to allow iOS on other companies' phones. I also was told chicken and waffles does actually make sense.
    06-20-2013 01:07 AM
  12. MDak280's Avatar
    If Nokia is going for Android, then I'll be forced to use the pricier iPhone.

    I can't.. see.. my.. self.. using.. Android.. I found its UI confusing, not straightforward like iOS and WP.
    The UI/UX of Android can vary because OEMs change it up so much.

    IF Nokia does go to Android in the future, then I will probably follow Nokia because I think they will be able to deliver a great Android skin, like HTC Sense 5.0. HTC Sense 5 is so much better than Samsung's Touchwiz. I wouldn't mind switching to Android if Nokia was the OEM I would be buying from, as long as they can give me a solid UI/UX that's beautiful and intuitive.

    Honestly, I'm more of a Nokia fan than I am a Windows Phone fan so yes, I would switch to Android if Nokia did. I'm not saying I don't like WP; I love it! But if Nokia abandons it, so will I. There wouldn't be much reason for me to stay :p

    All this is just a "what if." I don't see Nokia leaving WP anytime soon. And that's a good thing, because I believe that WP is about to get a whole lot better in the next year or so.
    MERCDROID and rianash like this.
    06-20-2013 01:23 AM
  13. Angry_Mushroom's Avatar
    I doubt Nokia will do Android. And if they do they'll remain a distant player compared to the top three makers. Samsung has built up too much with their Galaxy line, Apple has a good thing going with their iProduct, and it appears Huawei, HTC, and Sony are all burning hard for #3. Each of which have a known product line, and presence in the Android marketplace. Nokia? They'd have to rebuild a brand around a new OS. Remember their switch from Symbian to WP? They won't survive another switch.

    Hell... is the HTC One really that much of a success? It certainly kept HTC from going under, but I don't see them suddenly turning the tables on Samsung... not with Sony hot on their heels.
    WP8fan likes this.
    06-20-2013 01:30 AM
  14. jlp34876's Avatar
    Android makes me evil :p I have a nexus 7 and most of my apps are cracked apps.
    Now that Im on WP 8 i had to buy those apps like Asphalt 7,Wheres my water, Angry Birds etc etc.
    What Im doing now on my nexus 7 is, I rate the apps on Google play 1 star and leave a review
    " if you make this app available on WP 8, then i will buy your apps"

    If Nokia goes to Android then I will become a pirate again! So no to android! Go WP!!!
    06-20-2013 01:36 AM
  15. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    Android makes me evil :p I have a nexus 7 and most of my apps are cracked apps.
    Now that Im on WP 8 i had to buy those apps like Asphalt 7,Wheres my water, Angry Birds etc etc.
    What Im doing now on my nexus 7 is, I rate the apps on Google play 1 star and leave a review
    " if you make this app available on WP 8, then i will buy your apps"

    If Nokia goes to Android then I will become a pirate again! So no to android! Go WP!!!
    Wow. So much is wrong with this post.
    06-20-2013 01:44 AM
  16. LMZR's Avatar
    If Nokia's sales do drop (Which there is a good chance they won't) and Windows Phone falls i'm going to Blackberry... Or Jolla.
    06-20-2013 02:03 AM
  17. tissotti's Avatar
    The post below you nails it. Also if they go android they'll be paying Microsoft for the patent stealing. I think the boatloads of money they get from Microsoft will keep them exclusive to Windows Phone for quite a while.
    Actually on mobile Nokia leads the industry by far. MS is benefitting way more on mobile side from the Nokia deal when it comes to patents. Lets remember Nokia has invested top 4 in the world on R&D for past 10 years and that's just mobile side.


    I don't doubt a sec Nokia would have done way better with Android. At the time Nokia was still a major brand in Android strong markets. Nokia has shrunken to a shadow to itself with WP and at the time of the switch to WP Nokia still had over 10 billion euros of debt free cash reserves.

    Do I think Nokia should now go to Android now? No, not now.
    06-20-2013 02:17 AM
  18. cgk's Avatar
    I think you need to come back to reality - by leads I think you mean 'has been left in the dirt'.

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    06-20-2013 04:04 AM
  19. pranav rai's Avatar
    -snip-
    06-20-2013 04:18 AM
  20. jlp34876's Avatar
    Wow. So much is wrong with this post.
    I know dude, but im thankful that WP has its own limitation that prevents me from doing it again.
    06-20-2013 04:35 AM
  21. elyodeel's Avatar
    I know dude, but im thankful that WP has its own limitation that prevents me from doing it again.
    The first step is admitting.... I think you're gonna be okay.
    Nogitsune Micah likes this.
    06-20-2013 04:45 AM
  22. eric12341's Avatar
    [WARN] Allright let's refrain from calling each other trolls just because we don't agree with their posts. Forum rules prohibit this, if we cannot debate this topic in a civil manner then we'll have to shut it down[/WARN]
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    06-20-2013 07:20 AM
  23. WorzelGummage's Avatar
    The UI/UX of Android can vary because OEMs change it up so much.

    IF Nokia does go to Android in the future, then I will probably follow Nokia because I think they will be able to deliver a great Android skin, like HTC Sense 5.0. HTC Sense 5 is so much better than Samsung's Touchwiz. I wouldn't mind switching to Android if Nokia was the OEM I would be buying from, as long as they can give me a solid UI/UX that's beautiful and intuitive.

    Honestly, I'm more of a Nokia fan than I am a Windows Phone fan so yes, I would switch to Android if Nokia did. I'm not saying I don't like WP; I love it! But if Nokia abandons it, so will I. There wouldn't be much reason for me to stay :p

    All this is just a "what if." I don't see Nokia leaving WP anytime soon. And that's a good thing, because I believe that WP is about to get a whole lot better in the next year or so.
    This.

    Actually, Nokia could leave it Vanilla and not bother slapping a bloated UI on top. A Nokia Lumia Nexus if you will. But I honestly cannot see Nokia producing an Android phone, ever. Some people here have mentioned Meego but that was abandoned a long time ago and is now in private hands as Joila.

    Others have mentioned Nokias famous build quality but they are confusing Nokia of old with the new Chinese made Nokias that are simply not up to the same standard of quality. I still have an old E60 which does not creak and squeak every time I pick it up, unlike my very creaky 920 which also has a ton of dust obscuring the front facing camera.
    06-20-2013 07:32 AM
  24. rianash's Avatar
    The UI/UX of Android can vary because OEMs change it up so much.

    IF Nokia does go to Android in the future, then I will probably follow Nokia because I think they will be able to deliver a great Android skin, like HTC Sense 5.0. HTC Sense 5 is so much better than Samsung's Touchwiz. I wouldn't mind switching to Android if Nokia was the OEM I would be buying from, as long as they can give me a solid UI/UX that's beautiful and intuitive.

    Honestly, I'm more of a Nokia fan than I am a Windows Phone fan so yes, I would switch to Android if Nokia did. I'm not saying I don't like WP; I love it! But if Nokia abandons it, so will I. There wouldn't be much reason for me to stay :p

    All this is just a "what if." I don't see Nokia leaving WP anytime soon. And that's a good thing, because I believe that WP is about to get a whole lot better in the next year or so.
    May be you're right. So far I only tried friends' Samsung Droid. But I'll surely be trying Android hands-on first, before buying.

    For Lumia WP8, I just read about it, bought it, and never regret it.
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    06-20-2013 08:00 AM
  25. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    i wish to see Nokia producing mid range android phones along with wp ...........wp8 is still not upto android in terms of usability.lot of basic features missing
    That depends on your point of view. I can't think of any meaningful feature from Android that I want on Windows Phone. However, I can name several things (the UI, Games hub, Xbox-branded games, HERE Maps, Nokia hardware) that Windows Phone has that Android doesn't.
    06-20-2013 08:21 PM
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