11-23-2012 10:13 PM
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  1. masterchief1984's Avatar
    I am an avid instagram user, but i just got tired of the iphone. i dont want to have to jailbreak my phone just to change things up on it. never been a fan of android and i was always a windows boy at heart. im sure microsoft knows that their customers want the app and doing everything in their power to get. we just have to be patient.
    11-22-2012 03:23 PM
  2. brmiller1976's Avatar
    But as most serious Android users would tell you: turn off the damn live wallpapers! They're a gimmick, a battery drainer and slow the OS down anyway!
    True. :D Then you have widgets with animations that do the same thing. Got to turn them off as well.
    11-22-2012 04:17 PM
  3. brmiller1976's Avatar
    Either way, the fact is that Android is very capable. More capable than Windows Phone, I won't deny that. But 90% of the users out there don't give a **** whether or not their phone can function as a web server, they just want the UI to be consistently responsive without requiring a quad core processor and 2 GB of RAM.
    I define "capability" by "practical usage." A Cray supercomputer is "more capable" than my desktop PC, but it's also less capable, since it doesn't run Office.

    Android's problem is that it's barely tolerable across every imaginable area, and best-in-class in none. It's a classic OS built up by a checklist of functionality so it can say "see, this is a long, long list." But just about every item on that checklist is buggy, crash-prone, or difficult to use.

    WP is an optimized experience. Its checklist is shorter, but every item is directly relevant to a use case, and Microsoft has delivered best-in-class performance for many of the items on the list.
    11-22-2012 04:20 PM
  4. hary536's Avatar
    Unfortunately, I too am contemplating this. I have an 8x which I think is a really nice phone (apart from the very flush buttons which makes for poor usability IMO). I liked it better than the 920 and compared to my iPhone 4, can't say I feel like it is much of a step down (though, Apple does have that extra 5-10% of polish and finess in its hardware - but it beats everybody in that respect).

    Although I've only had the 8X for a few days, these are my major issues:
    - No way to close apps in the multi-task app viewer. I know this is a popular request and I imagine will be fixed, but it is such a glaring mistake IMO.
    - Poor battery life. I've heard it takes about 2 weeks for the battery to "settle", but so far I'm barely getting a full day's worth of usage. My iPhone 4 used to be at like 80% at the end of the day with the same usage patterns.
    - TellMe is still far behind Siri and Google's version. I don't know where to find a comprehensive list of commands, but things like "Set calendar appointment" doesn't do anything. Without some of these what I call "basic" functions, TellMe is just a gimmick. Finding the distance between the moon and the Earth makes for a cute ad, but support for these workflow improvements is the real key IMO.
    - No built-in turn-by-turn GPS. Given that every other phone offers this, it has morphed into a table stake for mobile devices these days. Any WP8 apart from Nokia is missing this key function. You might say, there's an app for that, but...
    - Lack of apps! In the first couple of days, I thought this wouldn't bother me, but now it is starting to getting frustrating. I know Spotify, Pandora, and Mint are allegedly coming and in the meantime, I'm using Xbox Music and Slacker (but missing Mint), but the sheer lack of quality in the app store seems to be an issue. If you have any suggestions for a decent navigation app, I'm all ears! I am trying a 30-day free trial of Scout right now. Leaving on a trip soon, so I needed something. Also, to the people saying "Instagram doesn't matter" - you're totally missing the point. LOTS of people use Instagram - if the app isn't available to them, why in the world would they switch to WP8? It's like if a BoA app wasn't available - I would be thinking really hard why I would switch over when I wouldn't be able to do mobile banking. And the right solution is not "just switch your bank".
    - The OS X Windows Phone Connector basically is useless. It doesn't sync at all. It crashes 100% of the time when I connect the phone (even after numerous re-installs).

    Of course, this list is just a few of the things that bug ME in particular. The issue of course is that these are all better / not problems in Android / iOS. I switched over from an iPhone 4 and MSFT needs to ensure that people who do that don't feel buyer's remorse. That's the only way to turn them into evangelists because WP8 does have some GREAT things about it (the lock screen customization, the live tiles, the People hub, etc. etc.).

    If the Google Nexus 4 actually becomes available, I would have to think hard about what I want to do. This saddens me because for various reasons I won't go into, I'm really hoping WP8 does great.
    I just bough Lumia 710(before 2 days). WP7.x phone. I synced it((music so far) with my MAC, upgraded OS software all with MAC connector. No issues.
    Regarding navigation, even iphone didn't have anything inbuilt till iphone5. Yet you bough it and millions bought it. (I don't count google maps as turn by turn)

    Apps, agree. Will take time to catch up.
    Regarding voice commands, I have to say, voice recognition of my Lumia 710 works better than my iphone 4s with iOS 5. (I am from South-east Asia)
    WP recognizes my words much better than siri. For me that is more important than other assistant functions, since those are useless if Siri can't recognize
    my words.

    My biggest complaint(based on WP7) so far, after 2 days is there is no easy way to transfer contacts from my iphone 4s sim to WP, nor from iphone phone memory.
    I haven't yet been able to transfer contacts.

    (Btw, Lumia 710 is supposed to be a gift for my dad, but am just checking it out for few days, so I can set it up for him and show him around the phone and OS).
    11-22-2012 08:06 PM
  5. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    Highly unlikely.
    Actually, my family is very Android centric. I'm the only one in the family that is having lag issues with Android, and that's with the HTC Flyer, and even then they're not that bad. And this is ranging from devices like the Samsung Galaxy Ace to the HTC Desire Z to the HTC One X. I however am a WP fan and will be buying myself a Lumia 820.
    11-22-2012 09:59 PM
  6. inteller's Avatar
    don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya


    I have a new rule, you must pay a $1 to post a "I'm leaving WP" whine story. Proceeds will be used to give the rest of us free WP8 devices.
    11-22-2012 10:03 PM
  7. brmiller1976's Avatar
    And I freely confess to hating Android. I have owned a number of them (G1, Galaxy S Vibrant, Evo 4G, Evo 3D, and GS 3)... Each promised that "this time, the problems are fixed." And each of them was a horrid mishmash of bad UI, lag, crashes, freezes, lousy battery life and random bugs, with the "next version of Android" promising to "fix everything" but either not doing so (or never being released for the device).
    11-23-2012 02:08 PM
  8. robstunner's Avatar
    And I freely confess to hating Android. I have owned a number of them (G1, Galaxy S Vibrant, Evo 4G, Evo 3D, and GS 3)... Each promised that "this time, the problems are fixed." And each of them was a horrid mishmash of bad UI, lag, crashes, freezes, lousy battery life and random bugs, with the "next version of Android" promising to "fix everything" but either not doing so (or never being released for the device).
    The only real lag free experience on android will be nexus devices. Sense and touch wiz destroy the experience imho.

    Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
    11-23-2012 02:20 PM
  9. brmiller1976's Avatar
    The only real lag free experience on android will be nexus devices. Sense and touch wiz destroy the experience imho.
    Try ICS on a Nexus S. LOTS of lag.

    Try JB on a Galaxy Nexus (assuming you have one that the carrier will allow to be updated). Lots of lag.

    Sorry, the promise of Android always eludes the reality. Whenever a "fixed" issue is encountered, it's blamed on the hardware, the carrier, or the user, with a promise of "if you buy X device, it will fix the problem."

    Then the user buys that device, encounters the problem again, and gets the same line.

    It's time to break the cycle! It's time for Windows Phone! :D
    11-23-2012 03:18 PM
  10. brmiller1976's Avatar
    Apparently, if you want LTE on your Android top selling phone, you need to root it, go to the developer menu, and change several settings.

    Then you'll get LTE in certain markets (as well as even more crashes)

    The Verge has the skinny:

    http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/11/2...-4-lte-support
    11-23-2012 05:09 PM
  11. 12Danny123's Avatar
    man. I find it weird. that people can't handle limitations. people need to get use to them some day. I can handle the limitations just fine
    11-23-2012 05:17 PM
  12. socialcarpet's Avatar
    Apparently, if you want LTE on your Android top selling phone, you need to root it, go to the developer menu, and change several settings.

    Then you'll get LTE in certain markets (as well as even more crashes)

    The Verge has the skinny:

    Nexus 4 works with LTE after simple tweak | The Verge
    Don't worry. Android 9.0 Strawberry Shortcake is going to fix that.
    brmiller1976 likes this.
    11-23-2012 05:44 PM
  13. brmiller1976's Avatar
    As well as fix the "exploding battery" problem we saw in Android 7.8 Red-Velvet Cake!
    11-23-2012 06:08 PM
  14. MathiasVerden's Avatar
    I just bough Lumia 710(before 2 days). WP7.x phone. I synced it((music so far) with my MAC, upgraded OS software all with MAC connector. No issues.
    Regarding navigation, even iphone didn't have anything inbuilt till iphone5. Yet you bough it and millions bought it. (I don't count google maps as turn by turn)

    Apps, agree. Will take time to catch up.
    Regarding voice commands, I have to say, voice recognition of my Lumia 710 works better than my iphone 4s with iOS 5. (I am from South-east Asia)
    WP recognizes my words much better than siri. For me that is more important than other assistant functions, since those are useless if Siri can't recognize
    my words.

    My biggest complaint(based on WP7) so far, after 2 days is there is no easy way to transfer contacts from my iphone 4s sim to WP, nor from iphone phone memory.
    I haven't yet been able to transfer contacts.

    (Btw, Lumia 710 is supposed to be a gift for my dad, but am just checking it out for few days, so I can set it up for him and show him around the phone and OS).
    People > Settings > Import SIM contacts. Works flawlessly for me, could be different for you.
    11-23-2012 06:20 PM
  15. robstunner's Avatar
    Try ICS on a Nexus S. LOTS of lag.

    Try JB on a Galaxy Nexus (assuming you have one that the carrier will allow to be updated). Lots of lag.

    Sorry, the promise of Android always eludes the reality. Whenever a "fixed" issue is encountered, it's blamed on the hardware, the carrier, or the user, with a promise of "if you buy X device, it will fix the problem."

    Then the user buys that device, encounters the problem again, and gets the same line.

    It's time to break the cycle! It's time for Windows Phone! :D
    Jelly bean has lag on a nexus? I dunno about that I have a one x on a beta cm10 and its very fluid.

    Sent from my One X using Tapatalk 2
    11-23-2012 07:14 PM
  16. wamsille's Avatar
    I had a Nexus S 4G - ran Gingerbread just fine. Then I installed Ice Cream Sandwich on the thing and it slowed down quite a bit. Gingerbread, not ICS, was made for that device.
    11-23-2012 09:44 PM
  17. Dave Blake's Avatar
    The OP is not participating in his thread. If we cant help the OP this thread is done.

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    11-23-2012 10:13 PM
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