11-22-2013 02:10 AM
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  1. JustToClarify's Avatar
    WP is a lot smoother than S4, look at youtube vids it's not just homescreen lag, there is a lag when switching homescreens, lag in gallery etc. etc.

    Even Symbian Belle on my N8 is smoother than S4.

    Oh, and stupid specs are those used for bragging rights with no real use on mobile phone, I don't count benchmarks in real use mind you.
    05-03-2013 05:27 AM
  2. broar94's Avatar
    When I used the S4 in the showroom the other day there was absolutely no lag anywhere. The Homescreen, app drawer, etc may lag for the first time, once it has been loaded, I guess it should become real fast!

    S4 is too expensive :@
    05-03-2013 06:25 AM
  3. Slai's Avatar
    I've seen it lag. However mine doesn't lag. So there's that.
    I hear they updated the sw recently. That helped.
    Also settings can be changed to make it snappier if needed.
    05-03-2013 07:48 AM
  4. TAB1360's Avatar
    Also I must add the lack of apps and games well better quality ones.
    05-06-2013 05:59 PM
  5. Ridemyscooter86's Avatar
    Abel:
    I disagree that live tiles are better. They're good, but hard to say they're a better system than the android homescreen system.
    User friendly... Well maybe. Its easier and cleaner. I think several things in wp is more troublesome than in android. For instance toggles, and settings. Finding the equalizer, for instance, is insanely annoying in wp.
    The fluidity of WP is great. The delays are covered with animations and it seems to flow well, at least consistently.
    Generally the apps in wp have a more uniform look, albeit less customizable.
    Proshot i have no experience with.
    Amazing Weather HD isn't any better than some of the android alternatives.
    Email integration is about equal, except you can send more filetypes on android.

    Office editors are available for Android, though it is great on WP8.
    Gamingwise it's worse on wp, obviously.

    Kinslayer: My WP blasts notification sounds over my music in wp. It doesn't mute the sound though, as you say it does on android. Not sure if that happens on my s4, I haven't noticed it at least. I'll try to pay attention to it next time, but I haven't noticed it being intrusive at all.

    Android isn't always as fluid as WP, but most of that is due to WP masking very well with animations.. With regards to occasional lag it happens less frequently in WP for sure. My s4 had some lag when pressing the homekey to return to the homescreen from for instance Internet. I discovered that the perceived lag was merely an animation delay, which (since its android) I could remove, making it snappier..

    As for the nexus vs Samsung thing, I think it's mostly due to the version/phone you were using. On s4 the Samsung overlay is quite well done.

    Ridemyscooter: today you can make your android look basically however you want it to look. So however futuristic you might feel wp is, android can do it as well. If desired.. Clunky is definitely not a good description.

    Android phones are as cluttered and mismatched as the user wants. The cleanest sleekest coolest homescreens are on android. The worst are as well.
    The fact is that widgets on android allows you to make it what ever you want.

    I recently switched from 920 to s4.

    My experience so far is this:

    Spotify works flawlessly now.
    Battery is greatly improved.
    Video playback is far better.
    The personalization is great.
    FB chat is amazing. I like flicking the heads around the homescreen.
    Design wise I prefer the s4.
    Stutters at random. Not often but sometimes.
    Configuring your homescreen PEERFECTLY is a huge daunting task that can be overwhelming. But I love that I can.
    It charges insanely fast, which is good.
    Split view is great.
    Air view is actually useful. Same goes for air gestures, but not as much as air view.
    Eye control works well, but not something I use.
    SwiftKey is far better than the wp8 keyboard.

    All in all its a big change, but one I'm happy about so far.

    What I mean by clunky is that it seems with android, or at least my experience with it, that you need to almost always, save for the nexus devices, flash your phone with a stock ROM. YOU ABSOLUTELY NEED A TASK KILLER! This is something that anybody who has owned an android phone knows, without this you'll run your battery into the ground. I have friends that ask me, why they get 1/2-3/4 of a day battery life and I show them they are not using a task killer and once they do, they get a full day battery life no problem. What I also mean by clunky, it that android frequently stutters, and it seems to have a good ui experience, you need to customize the heck out of it.

    Slai, you made it sound like you had to work quite hard to customize your multiple home screens, which I think that most people I've seen that have like 5-7 is completely overkill, but anyways, When I went to customize my homescreen, it took me like 10 min max and I was done, I just set the tiles the size I like them, and put them in the place that I like and I'm done.

    It seems to me that you like to tinker with things. If that's the case than android is the perfect OS for you. While I do like to tinker as well, I don't have time to do it, which is part of the reason I stopped using Linux, not because it was bad in anyway, but It took me forever to get the desktop looking the way I wanted it.

    I love my windows phone because it just works well, I don't have to tinker with it, I don't have to close apps, pretty much I never need to monitor anything and that's why I like it. Its pretty, fast, fluid (I hate to use their marketing lingo btw but it does describe the system well).
    05-07-2013 11:12 PM
  6. Slai's Avatar
    http://mycolorscreen.com/2013/04/24/hazy-daze/m, you never really have to flash a stock rom or use a task killer.

    If you have apps draining your battery in the background draining your battery, as in WP, you can pinpoint that easily and merely remove it, all without any advanced task killers.

    Android rarely stutters on the s4, if at all. Haven't customized much, but I changed four things in settings which reduced animation time on certain actions, and disabled S Voice from its homekey shortcut.

    Let me clarify the homescreen thing: if you want something that looks like this:

    http://mycolorscreen.com/2013/04/24/hazy-daze/

    Then yeah, from scratch it could take a bit of time. Just copying that one: fifteen minutes I guess.

    But just putting apps and shortcuts around the screen takes just a few minutes, if you don't want to tinker and just want it set up.

    So you sort of get both the easy variation and the detailed one, depending on your preference.

    I don't particularly like to tinker. I can flash roms and enjoy making a unique and well done homescreen setup that is really effective. But I rarely bother with it.

    I like the same qualities in the s4. Its fast, it's pretty, it works well, it's fluid, i don't have to tinker with it, or close apps constantly or monitor it.
    05-08-2013 01:22 AM
  7. Ridemyscooter86's Avatar
    Btw, I got to see the new htc one, talk about immaculate build quality...I think the s4 looks decent but I would totally take the now htc one over it though
    05-09-2013 04:07 AM
  8. montsa007's Avatar
    @kinslayer,

    I really love you,r post :D
    05-20-2013 04:42 AM
  9. Slai's Avatar
    Don't confuse build quality with design preference though.

    Personally I like the s4 over the One on design. Build quality has always been superb with polycarbonate/plastic for me, both with Samsung and nokia. With the exception of the n97 perhaps, and the sim tray door on the n9 and lumia 800.
    05-20-2013 12:15 PM
  10. solveig17's Avatar
    Admittedly this is from my experience of Nokia Lumia 800 which is WP7 but I gave up after 6 months as the experience was so awful. I don't think any of these issues are addressed in WP8. So far as what it could do better than Android? Nothing.
    (1) No lock screen notifications
    (2) No profiles
    (3) No customised text tones
    (4) Doesn't support Chrome or Firefox
    (5) Cannot set a text to send automatically at a future time.
    (6) Cannot allocate the tag "mobile" to more than 1 number for any contact
    (7) Cannot save sent and received text messages .
    (8) Cannot switch phone off when it's charging.
    (9) Cannot add items to e-mails except photos ; can add documents but only by picking the document first so cannot reply and add a document.
    (10) Browser cannot access secure code sites; cannot access my online banking site.
    (11) No BBC, My Player, ITV Player or Catch up TV
    (12) No Swype keyboard
    (13) Can't edit e-mail when forwarding
    (14) Cannot move or e-mail out a downloaded pdf
    (15) Live Tiles is not as good as widgets
    (16) Doesn't support Amazon mp3
    (17) Cannot set snooze period on alarm
    (18) Clock runs fast
    05-20-2013 05:06 PM
  11. berty6294's Avatar
    Admittedly this is from my experience of Nokia Lumia 800 which is WP7 but I gave up after 6 months as the experience was so awful. I don't think any of these issues are addressed in WP8. So far as what it could do better than Android? Nothing.
    (1) No lock screen notifications
    (2) No profiles
    (3) No customised text tones
    (4) Doesn't support Chrome or Firefox
    (5) Cannot set a text to send automatically at a future time.
    (6) Cannot allocate the tag "mobile" to more than 1 number for any contact
    (7) Cannot save sent and received text messages .
    (8) Cannot switch phone off when it's charging.
    (9) Cannot add items to e-mails except photos ; can add documents but only by picking the document first so cannot reply and add a document.
    (10) Browser cannot access secure code sites; cannot access my online banking site.
    (11) No BBC, My Player, ITV Player or Catch up TV
    (12) No Swype keyboard
    (13) Can't edit e-mail when forwarding
    (14) Cannot move or e-mail out a downloaded pdf
    (15) Live Tiles is not as good as widgets
    (16) Doesn't support Amazon mp3
    (17) Cannot set snooze period on alarm
    (18) Clock runs fast
    1. Yes it does.
    2. I don't understand, who shares phones?
    3. True, I wish we had that
    4. Thank god.
    5. I don't understand why people need this.
    6. you have mobile 1 or 2 and like 10 other options
    7. They are already saved and backed up
    8. True
    9. True, I hope that changes
    10. Yes it can, I do my banking from my phone.
    11. Merica
    12. Id take WP's keyboard over swipe any day
    13. True, why forward if you are composing your own.
    14. True
    15. Haha says my battery
    16. Idk I don't use that
    17. Um yes you can
    18. Um... Idk bout that
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    05-20-2013 05:54 PM
  12. ammarmalik2011's Avatar
    To me the biggest turn off wasn't so much the lack of apps (yes that did hurt) but it was more the quality of existing apps. Everything from Facebook to Twitter to WhatsApp is just miles better on iOS. Then there is the long wait a Windows Phone user has to go through for an app to get updated (hint: Viber)
    05-21-2013 07:42 PM
  13. solveig17's Avatar
    1. Yes it does.
    2. I don't understand, who shares phones?
    3. True, I wish we had that
    4. Thank god.
    5. I don't understand why people need this.
    6. you have mobile 1 or 2 and like 10 other options
    7. They are already saved and backed up
    8. True
    9. True, I hope that changes
    10. Yes it can, I do my banking from my phone. V5
    11. Merica
    12. Id take WP's keyboard over swipe any day
    13. True, why forward if you are composing your own.
    14. True
    15. Haha says my battery
    16. Idk I don't use that
    17. Um yes you can
    18. Um... Idk bout that
    1.no there is not. There is no continuous alert. It flashes up briefly and then goes black.
    2. No idea what you are on about. I mean the fact phone automatically switches to silent when I am in my open plan office or if I have the word " concert " in my calendar and any number of other custom situations.
    5. So I can set my phone to send a text at 10.32 on my son's birthday no matter where I am or what I am doing at 10.32 or I can send a text home when I am in different time zone without waking the recipient?
    6. Not on Lumia 800
    7. No you cannot. You can back up, I meant save to sd card or elsewhere. If you delete the sms from Lumia it goes from the back up. I can delete all SMS from Android but they are still saved to sd card or google drive
    13. Because sometimes you only want the recipient to see part of an email.
    10. Bully for you. I cannot on wp, I can on Android. Any site using mastercard secure code sig in didn't work
    11.No idea what you mean, all of the media apps I listed work on Android, none of them work on WP.
    15. I get between 40 to 50 hours from Razr Maxx
    17. I meant a period of your choosing. I can set it to snooze but only 9 minutes. Goodness knows why 9 minutes
    05-23-2013 08:05 PM
  14. Brian Sump's Avatar
    To me the biggest turn off wasn't so much the lack of apps (yes that did hurt) but it was more the quality of existing apps. Everything from Facebook to Twitter to WhatsApp is just miles better on iOS. Then there is the long wait a Windows Phone user has to go through for an app to get updated (hint: Viber)
    I would disagree. I've run into several apps where the quality was superior on WP8. Has anyone played "QONQR" for example on iOS? It's much better on WP. I also like the Kayak and Pandora apps better. It's true that FB is fairly low quality, but it's also the least important app as the phone has native support for most of facebook's functionality.

    It is true that Android is customizable to whatever you may want, but for the ordinary person I think the WP8 system/process is easier. WP still has a long ways to go as some very simple things have yet to be implemented (using SMS tones other than what is preloaded, for example, is one of the most annoying). But I like the paradigm better than the other phone OS's out there. I know Microsoft isn't known for their agile development, but hopefully they'll have a new release soon that fixes some of these irritating pieces.
    06-10-2013 09:52 PM
  15. FinancialP's Avatar
    To me the biggest turn off wasn't so much the lack of apps (yes that did hurt) but it was more the quality of existing apps. Everything from Facebook to Twitter to WhatsApp is just miles better on iOS. Then there is the long wait a Windows Phone user has to go through for an app to get updated (hint: Viber)
    I have to agree with this sentiment. Spotify was the last straw for me; my goodness it's a poor app on this platform.


    I've been waiting forever for tapatalk , I hear it's in beta now.

    .........

    The Skype situation speaks volumes.
    Last edited by FinancialP; 06-11-2013 at 12:47 AM.
    06-11-2013 12:32 AM
  16. P O's Avatar
    Killer. Buggy apps. Found out yest skydrive stopped auto uploads on my 928 Aug 10. Wont let me manual upload missing photos either; goes through upload process fine but photos do not show up on skydrive afterwards. cant chance hard reset and wiping out photos I couldn't save to skydrive. Battery usage app not accurate depending on when servers last updated. Twice in last week battery usage app gave me 30% + left reading when both times soft reset showed only 20%, not very handy when using here drive on highway. And those are just highlights. The few Nokia apps are great but those 3rd party windows stores apps are buggy regardless of what the 5 star reviews say.
    08-20-2013 09:37 AM
  17. cckgz4's Avatar
    I love mycolorscreen but since they only use one or two devices, they cannot account for ALL the other android devices out there with different resolutions. I can't tell you how long and frustrated it took for me to get my homescreen mostly right on my Homescreen. I never want to take that long doing a homescreen....ever.
    08-20-2013 06:11 PM
  18. TechAbstract's Avatar
    Most people I have seen on their phones leave at default home screen. Not much customization at all. Even on desktop PC. They only move icons around and change wallpaper. That's about it. Customization is very overrated.
    08-21-2013 09:18 PM
  19. chmun77's Avatar
    Something which I realized being user of both OS, I cannot expect to have a clean start / home screens on Windows Phone, as compared to Android. Because of the lack of centralized notification screen, I need to depend on "live" tiles to inform me that something happened. And they are limited to maximum of 30mins interval if I'm not mistaken. Toast messages come and go too fast. Limited number of notification placeholders on lock screen.

    So, imo tiles are making the phone looking more cluttered. Yes, icons are static but Android does not need any "live" icons because it already has an excellent notification center. Should one need easy access to information, widgets come into play.

    I wouldn't say Windows Phone 8 is bad. But it is another choice to different group of user who prefer something other than iOS or Android. WP8 is fluid, so is my HTC One and Nexus 7. And apps experiences are different on both platforms. On Windows Phone, animations always happen regardless of opening the app or chats within the app. But on Android, apps and chat opened in an instance upon tapping. Some may like to see the animations, while not others. And there is no way to turn them off on Windows Phone.

    So, to each of its own. Both platforms has their pros and cons. The only matters is the user preferences.
    09-02-2013 03:16 AM
  20. Jack Larson1's Avatar
    Teens use WP too! Its a "cool" OS too that even non WP teens know about now.
    09-16-2013 10:56 AM
  21. stalemate1's Avatar
    Well Androids reliability has always been questioned but its unmatched when it comes to customizability. live tiles, widgets...same thing really

    the only place that Windows 8 falls is the number of apps available (not quality...its brilliant...comparability is excellent-you don't experience bugs per app that is device specific)

    in all honesty...there are apps I'd really like to see...take opera browser for example, its available for Windows mobile 6.5 standard (2008) and yet you cant get it for windows phone 8...SERIOUSLY!!! (Both opera mini AND opera mobile are available for the OLD Windows mobile 6.5 os and not one for the new/modern Windows phone 8)


    As for ios...not tested but looks good.
    09-19-2013 08:10 AM
  22. chezm's Avatar
    Windows
    - simplicity and original UI design, super fast functionality and built in social functions but lacks apps

    iOS
    - Clean, fast and best apps but boring UI

    Android
    - customization to the nigh, a mobile PC with a lot of apps....at the cost of security and laggy
    09-19-2013 08:30 AM
  23. tapehead's Avatar
    Pros:
    The UI's speed and fluidity is unmatched. Android gets shockingly bogged down after running one or two apps and, in my opinion, requires some fairly robust specs just for the simplest of tasks. The design is also the classiest of the three. Android feels cheap in most flavors and iOS is just hideous. The things I can do with a Lumia 820 are the same you can do on a 720, 920, 1020, or 620. Hell, most I can still do with my Windows Phone 7.5 phone.

    Integration of Facebook, Twitter and Email is better than on any other platform. The "Me" tile was a great idea, although I do wish it would include group notifications.

    Nokia. Amazing build quality.

    Cons:

    Poor developer support. That said, there are a lot more useful apps than the media would have you believe. I can't say I miss a whole lot from the 1,000,000 app selection from iOS or Android. I only use about a handful, and most of them I have found alternatives to for WP8. But it's hard to overcome a bad reputation.

    This update fiasco is telling that WP8 is going to be more like Google/Android than Apple/iOS.

    Abysmal Mac support. The transfer app sucks. It's easier using this device with Ubuntu-- and that's sad.
    09-24-2013 12:16 PM
  24. Guytronic's Avatar
    ...apologies for dredging up a 2 month old posting...

    2 month WP8 user here coming off an andread device.

    Pros for me are:
    Smoothness for less $$ (L521)
    No screwing with the OS resulting in non-function or bricking.
    Actually found many relevant apps that meet my personal wants.
    Quality well written paid apps in the store (based on reviews and trials)
    The WP store can be a weekly adventure (seem to find new stuff quite often)
    Browser goes for as long as the user wants (never had this with andread)
    Unbelievable daylight camera on a $99.00 device.

    Really don't enjoy stomping on the other two OS's...
    Andread made me angry with some mysterious glitch on a daily basis.
    I know it works fine for billions and I respect that.
    11-22-2013 02:04 AM
  25. jiggaman135's Avatar
    The os fluidity ,functionality and overall look and feel are what have me hooked on wp!
    11-22-2013 02:10 AM
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