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  1. Slai's Avatar
    I don't think anyone would,claim the s4 to be better than the 808. Goes without saying, really.
    04-22-2013 10:55 AM
  2. nano321's Avatar
    Point is they tried to show that somehow SGS 4 can even beat 808 PureView :).
    04-22-2013 10:57 AM
  3. Slai's Avatar
    That's silly. Ive only read that it beats iphone5, 920, htc one, etc. Not 808. Its sort of in its own league.
    04-22-2013 11:05 AM
  4. gsquared's Avatar
    I'm not just talking the camera performance, I'm talking overall performance. There isn't a single phone out there than can even come close to what the GS4 is capable of. It's absolutely devastating. It's becoming very evident to all the OEMs that Samsung isn't holding back or sitting on it's past success and getting stale. They're ripping every other OEM out there with big advancements in Hardware and Software. Just look......

    /cough .. Paid BS /cough.....
    04-22-2013 11:06 AM
  5. Slai's Avatar
    Disregarding camera, does S4 beat the others in all benchmarks?
    04-22-2013 11:12 AM
  6. Jaripi's Avatar
    Point is they tried to show that somehow SGS 4 can even beat 808 PureView :).
    Well, this case is very current, "Samsung hired marketing firm" - is it a co-incidence: Taiwan's FTC investigating Samsung for defaming HTC on local online forums | PCWorld
    04-22-2013 11:19 AM
  7. squire777's Avatar
    The 920's night pictures in that "comparison" should not be that bad. It's as if they took the worst picture that the 920 could take and used it (honestly those 920 night pictures look like they were taken with my 710). If you look around this site you will find pictures from users that show what the 920 is really capable of.

    We have seen comparisons between the 920 and GS3 and the 920 almost always came out on top. Now all of a sudden the 920 is inferior to the GS3?

    It's funny how they also disregard the giant lens flare on the GS4's night picture as if that's not an issue. For the day shots they all pretty much provide the same detail and it's up to the user on which type of colours they prefer
    cckgz4 and Microsoftjunkie like this.
    04-22-2013 11:24 AM
  8. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    Disregarding camera, does S4 beat the others in all benchmarks?
    Uhh...terrible question. You're asking if a phone that's using tech that's a year newer is better. It's like bragging that a PC with an Ivy Bridge i7 is faster than one with a Sandy Bridge i3. Newer tech is newer and faster, that's how it goes. This is the newest device on the market, and that's that. It's not as if the S4 is so well-made that it blows the competition away on the same, or similar, hardware. They've just got the newest parts in their phones, so they can beat those on outdated hardware.

    That's like that folks who brag that the Wii U is more powerful than the Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3. It's not hard to put out something bigger and better with newer parts.

    All of that said, I'm not sure how it compares to the HTC One, haven't looked at the benchmarks to see. That's what is the interesting question, not how the Exynos 5 compares to an A6 or S4 CPU that's a year (or more) old. If it bests the best from Qualcomm, we're talking. If it's on-par with the new Snapdragon Pro 800, it's tough to care when not many go the Exynos route for CPUs as it is.
    04-22-2013 11:31 AM
  9. Microsoftjunkie's Avatar
    Remember now Sammy's money is still at work.
    04-22-2013 11:39 AM
  10. lesd777's Avatar
    Man I want that s4. Looks awesome. Hopefully that windows phablet comes out in July as rumored. My 4.5" is not be enough
    Sent from my RM-820_nam_att_100 using Board Express
    04-22-2013 11:41 AM
  11. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    I'm not just talking the camera performance, I'm talking overall performance. There isn't a single phone out there than can even come close to what the GS4 is capable of. It's absolutely devastating. It's becoming very evident to all the OEMs that Samsung isn't holding back or sitting on it's past success and getting stale. They're ripping every other OEM out there with big advancements in Hardware and Software. Just look......
    No, you're just oblivious to how phone tech works. It moves very quickly, for starters. Having a SoC that's a year newer is a MAJOR leap forward, as this is something of an infant technology, in terms of widespread use, when compared to x86 CPUs. The tech's growing rapidly and becoming faster by leaps and bounds each year. That the Exynos 5, a fresh SoC, can top an early-2012 MSM8960 S4 is completely meaningless, because it's simply saying your tech is better than its predecessor. The point of comparison is the Snapdragon 600/800. The Galaxy S4 is actually using the Snapdragon 600 in its widespread release, so not even the CREATOR of the SoC is using the Exynos widely, and they never have.

    So, are you bragging that the Galaxy S4's Snapdragon 600 is better than the Snapdragon S4? Because both SoCs are made by Qualcomm, and the competition will be using those (the HTC One is) or the Snapdragon 800 (once those actually release). Phones released in the same product cycle (except the iPhone) tend to always have the same SoC in them--whatever is the current one from Qualcomm, when we're comparing flagship devices. Even if the Exynos 5 version of the Galaxy S4 beats the Snapdragon variant, it won't matter when Samsung's limiting their availability so greatly (not even sure how much of the world's getting them, but the Snapdragon variant is listed as being the model for the US and most of Europe).
    04-22-2013 11:43 AM
  12. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    Man I want that s4. Looks awesome. Hopefully that windows phablet comes out in July as rumored. My 4.5" is not be enough
    Sent from my RM-820_nam_att_100 using Board Express
    Looks like a slightly-bigger screen on an S III.
    04-22-2013 11:44 AM
  13. Slai's Avatar
    Jaripi: like many companies do. Remember the 920 video scandal where they didn't even use a 920?
    This always happens.

    Keith: awesome question, since im not saying against the 920 or the n95 or the iphone3g, but obviously mean htc one and recent phones...

    And while you may not see the difference between the s3 and the s4, i do. Its not that big, its like the difference between the 900 and the 920, ca.
    To me the s4 clearly is a nice looking device, while the s3 is quite "meh". Like how i feel about 900 vs 920.
    04-22-2013 11:44 AM
  14. Jaripi's Avatar
    Jaripi: like many companies do. Remember the 920 video scandal where they didn't even use a 920?
    This always happens.
    I disagree, it is a big step more to to pay for a marketing company to make false statements ... Nokia's advertisement is an advertisement (it was very truthful advertisement, even it was not made by Lumia 920 - just relook it)...
    Last edited by Jaripi; 04-22-2013 at 12:47 PM.
    04-22-2013 12:02 PM
  15. Slai's Avatar
    True, but consider the fact that this in most likelyhood goes on with most companies. Samsung just got caught this time.
    For me it matters little what they do in Taiwan, truth be told. Ill judge the phone when i get my hands on it.
    04-22-2013 12:33 PM
  16. berty6294's Avatar
    I judge phone cameras almost exclusively on video and lowlight. The 920 imo will be superior to the s4. The rc car demo is a great demo I always look for!
    04-22-2013 12:37 PM
  17. Slai's Avatar
    Why?
    04-22-2013 01:17 PM
  18. berty6294's Avatar
    Why?
    why I judge that way? or why I think the 920 will be superior?
    04-22-2013 02:32 PM
  19. Jealy666's Avatar
    Android is a bad phone OS. They're polishing a turd imo - they should just develop their own OS.
    04-22-2013 03:36 PM
  20. badMojo69's Avatar
    LOL Samsung the king of plastic! LG pwns them every time they put out a new phone, but they don't spend on marketing like Sammy does so no one notices. .
    04-22-2013 03:47 PM
  21. Zerveone's Avatar
    About S4 vs 920 in lowlight situation. It's hard for me to understand how a camera without OIS can beat one with OIS, as OIS let's you to have longer shutter times giving you more light inside. Unless you have really steady hands? Add ProShot to it extending shutter times even longer and it gives you amazing lowlight photos. I've seen many 920 night photos and they're just breathtaking if we're talking about phone shots. Can't say that for S4.
    Concerning daylight photos - most phones should give comparable results, unless you're all about zooming in search of details captured or grains left by post processing.
    04-22-2013 04:17 PM
  22. cckgz4's Avatar
    Laughable
    04-22-2013 05:06 PM
  23. Slai's Avatar
    why I judge that way? or why I think the 920 will be superior?
    why you judge that way :) .
    04-22-2013 05:58 PM
  24. Carlton671's Avatar
    Um i am pretty sure the htc one destroys it
    04-22-2013 06:15 PM
  25. Slai's Avatar
    Carlton: you mean camera, right? Or do you mean overall?

    For camera: no idea, I jear disappointing things about the camera on the One, but a lot of tests were apparently some with an unfinished version of the sw, and it has picked up substantially since then.

    Overall: pretty much the same, with (iirc) the s4 edging out a win when it comes to benchmarks etc., given equal cameras.
    04-22-2013 07:16 PM
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