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  1. dba415's Avatar
    Because it's a good OS. It's not Android's fault that Windows Phone arrived like 3 years late. That's all on Microsoft for failing to keep up with technology. I remember when Microsoft stated that "iPhone wasn't a threat Windows Mobile" and "tablets aren't a threat to the PC sales". Well guess what everyone had a good laugh at MS for saying those idiotic things.

    It's not like manufacturers "chose" Android over Windows Phone. Android was the only OS they had in order to combat Apple. They could not have chosen Windows Phone even if they wanted to initially since it didn't exist. Once WP came out it was too late in the game. Android already gained that market share. OEMs just went with the platform that would have made them the most money.

    Android 1.0-2.0 were really poor OSes. If WP was existent at that time maybe WP would have taken the throne. I had a t-mobile G1 and I hated it and went with iPhone for a while. I give Google credit because they improved Android over the last 2 years and now it is a good OS. Runs smooth and there is actually no lag.
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    06-21-2013 12:42 AM
  2. z33dev33l's Avatar
    Because it's a good OS. It's not Android's fault that Windows Phone arrived like 3 years late. That's all on Microsoft for failing to keep up with technology. I remember when Microsoft stated that "iPhone wasn't a threat Windows Mobile" and "tablets aren't a threat to the PC sales". Well guess what everyone had a good laugh at MS for saying those idiotic things.

    It's not like manufacturers "chose" Android over Windows Phone. Android was the only OS they had in order to combat Apple. They could not have chosen Windows Phone even if they wanted to initially since it didn't exist. Once WP came out it was too late in the game. Android already gained that market share. OEMs just went with the platform that would have made them the most money.

    Android 1.0-2.0 were really poor OSes. If WP was existent at that time maybe WP would have taken the throne. I had a t-mobile G1 and I hated it and went with iPhone for a while. I give Google credit because they improved Android over the last 2 years and now it is a good OS. Runs smooth and there is actually no lag.
    No lag is still total BS
    06-21-2013 12:47 AM
  3. WorzelGummage's Avatar
    Because it's a good OS. It's not Android's fault that Windows Phone arrived like 3 years late. That's all on Microsoft for failing to keep up with technology. I remember when Microsoft stated that "iPhone wasn't a threat Windows Mobile" and "tablets aren't a threat to the PC sales". Well guess what everyone had a good laugh at MS for saying those idiotic things.

    It's not like manufacturers "chose" Android over Windows Phone. Android was the only OS they had in order to combat Apple. They could not have chosen Windows Phone even if they wanted to initially since it didn't exist. Once WP came out it was too late in the game. Android already gained that market share. OEMs just went with the platform that would have made them the most money.

    Android 1.0-2.0 were really poor OSes. If WP was existent at that time maybe WP would have taken the throne. I had a t-mobile G1 and I hated it and went with iPhone for a while. I give Google credit because they improved Android over the last 2 years and now it is a good OS. Runs smooth and there is actually no lag.
    Well that all depends on which Android phone you have. I've got a Galaxy S 3 and it does lag every day
    06-21-2013 01:12 AM
  4. z33dev33l's Avatar
    Well that all depends on which Android phone you have. I've got a Galaxy S 3 and it does lag every day
    Every one of them lags. The gs3 and the HTC One do best. The gs4 is still a choppy mess.
    06-21-2013 06:30 AM
  5. tgp's Avatar
    At one time a couple months ago, I had a Nexus 4, a Lumia 920, and an iPhone 5 all within a week. In my experience, all 3 phones, flagships of their OS's, lagged equally as much. None more than the others and none less (the reality is that none of them lagged at all). That's actually saying something for Android, since the Nexus 4 is my primary phone and I use it the most and have the most stuff on it.

    This leads me to wonder if Android's lag is actually caused by manufacturers' skin, at least for Jelly Bean devices. I guess we will find out when the SGS4 & HTC One with pure Android are released.
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    06-21-2013 07:02 AM
  6. zipro's Avatar
    I love my Lumia 920 but my other phone (HTC One) runs circles around it I'm pretty much every respect. Still, I like WP8 and I'll keep the Lumia because it's refreshing for me to use something totally different once in a while
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    06-21-2013 07:04 AM
  7. z33dev33l's Avatar
    At one time a couple months ago, I had a Nexus 4, a Lumia 920, and an iPhone 5 all within a week. In my experience, all 3 phones, flagships of their OS's, lagged equally as much. None more than the others and none less (the reality is that none of them lagged at all). That's actually saying something for Android, since the Nexus 4 is my primary phone and I use it the most and have the most stuff on it.

    This leads me to wonder if Android's lag is actually caused by manufacturers' skin, at least for Jelly Bean devices. I guess we will find out when the SGS4 & HTC One with pure Android are released.
    I'll acknowledge that the nexus 4 lags less than most but if you can say it doesn't lag for you then you must not do much of anything on it.
    06-21-2013 07:24 AM
  8. anon(6038817)'s Avatar
    My Galaxy Nexus lagged often. Sometimes to the point of freezing. I'd sometimes come back to the home screen to find all my icons and widgets had disappeared and had to wait several seconds for them to reappear. My Lumia 521 has a slower processor and less RAM yet it runs buttery smooth. It's a nice change.
    06-21-2013 07:45 AM
  9. tgp's Avatar
    I'll acknowledge that the nexus 4 lags less than most but if you can say it doesn't lag for you then you must not do much of anything on it.
    Maybe I don't! I have around 90 apps installed. I stream videos every once in awhile, but I don't game other than Angry Birds or other light games. I also did a very specific test between the Nexus 4 and the Lumia 920 to test smoothness. I opened the Settings menu on both of them, and scrolled very slowly. The 920 was jerky, but the Nexus was butter smooth. I'm not sure it means anything or tells anyone anything meaningful, but the difference was very obvious.
    06-21-2013 08:20 AM
  10. scottcraft's Avatar
    My 8X lags and hangs up some. It is more fluid than my Rezound, but it has more stutters and lag. Lag can affect all platforms, it's all about what you are willing to live with.
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    06-21-2013 08:23 AM
  11. tgp's Avatar
    My 8X lags and hangs up some. It is more fluid than my Rezound, but it has more stutters and lag. Lag can affect all platforms, it's all about what you are willing to live with.
    You're correct. I suppose it also has something to do with a user looking for it. Most people on this forum are WP fans, who would be looking for issues on Android & iOS devices and not on WP. I use all 3 platforms and I like to think of myself as OS agnostic, and I like all 3. That said, my 1st preference is Android.
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    06-21-2013 10:09 AM
  12. WorzelGummage's Avatar
    Every one of them lags. The gs3 and the HTC One do best. The gs4 is still a choppy mess.
    In theory, the Nexus range shouldn't lag because they aren't burdened with a manufacturers GUI/skin/bloatware. However, I've never owned one or used one so can't comment with any degree of certainty, only what others do say about the Nexus phones. (See comments from tgp below).
    I've a friend who has the HTC One and he reckons it doesn't lag. I'll be seeing him tomorrow so I will put him and his phone to the test.
    My SGS3 lags amazingly bad sometimes, to the point of embarrassment as does the SGS4 which I've seen with my own two eyes.
    The only phone that I've ever owned that has never lagged is my 920. It remains consistently smooth and lag free, even after seven months of ownership and a ton of apps and games installed (and quite a long start screen with plenty of tiles on display).
    06-21-2013 11:51 AM
  13. z33dev33l's Avatar
    You're correct. I suppose it also has something to do with a user looking for it. Most people on this forum are WP fans, who would be looking for issues on Android & iOS devices and not on WP. I use all 3 platforms and I like to think of myself as OS agnostic, and I like all 3. That said, my 1st preference is Android.
    I hated windows phone when I first used it. It was back on the HD7 and I quickly rushed back to my dell streak... Less than a week and I noticed the horrid lag and inconsistencies and came rushing back. I've since jumped back a dozen times because I like emulation, the atrix HD, HTC One, Galaxy S4 and most recently the nexus 4. The only one I might consider as a daily driver is the nexus 4 but my initial complaints have yet to been resolved
    06-21-2013 12:15 PM
  14. tgp's Avatar
    I would like to know what you guys do to make your Androids lag, especially the Nexus 4 since that's the one I have. Let me know and I'll try it if I can.

    One thing I found with WP is that there is a limit to what you can do with it, due to available apps and how it restricts multitasking. This of course helps keep it smooth and stable. I wouldn't be surprised if some lag is happening with Androids when doing things that wouldn't even be possible on a WP.
    06-21-2013 02:44 PM
  15. A895's Avatar
    Android does lag if you do too much on it like any smartphone os, but RAZR M has had no lag at all. If anything goes slow its an app that isn't properly coded.

    Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
    06-21-2013 03:02 PM
  16. z33dev33l's Avatar
    Android does lag if you do too much on it like any smartphone os, but RAZR M has had no lag at all. If anything goes slow its an app that isn't properly coded.

    Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
    And I can't make calls on my iPhone because I'm holding it wrong...
    06-21-2013 03:05 PM
  17. z33dev33l's Avatar
    I would like to know what you guys do to make your Androids lag, especially the Nexus 4 since that's the one I have. Let me know and I'll try it if I can.

    One thing I found with WP is that there is a limit to what you can do with it, due to available apps and how it restricts multitasking. This of course helps keep it smooth and stable. I wouldn't be surprised if some lag is happening with Androids when doing things that wouldn't even be possible on a WP.
    What made it lag most was ravensword, that game killed it. Other than that, the keyboard always has discernible delay, scrolling through a wall of text will do it and any use of voice control.
    06-21-2013 03:06 PM
  18. WorzelGummage's Avatar
    I would like to know what you guys do to make your Androids lag, especially the Nexus 4 since that's the one I have. Let me know and I'll try it if I can.

    One thing I found with WP is that there is a limit to what you can do with it, due to available apps and how it restricts multitasking. This of course helps keep it smooth and stable. I wouldn't be surprised if some lag is happening with Androids when doing things that wouldn't even be possible on a WP.
    All I need to do is open the gallery on my S3 then wait for it to load up, then wait some more. Once its loaded and I've finished with it I press back and wait again for a few seconds while the phone hangs then it will return back to the home screen but my weather widget will be missing but will return after a second or two.
    So, just normal use of the phone will produce the lag
    06-21-2013 03:20 PM
  19. Oliver Newell's Avatar
    As regards these apps on android according to most people being "very good quality" I honestly struggle to see what they are going on about. Quality is judged very superficially. The facebook app on android feel dated, it stutters, the scrolling is no where near as smooth as the one on WP, the Skype app is horrible. Yes it may have features which are missing on WP but the icons and text is so much smaller. The games are filled with adverts which distract you from the game, the email application is dire and the contacts synchronization is terrible. For those of us who are not developers and don't care for booting our phones and putting custom this and that on it, you cant have a better mobile OS than Windows phone.

    There is a reason why people are on this forum, there is a reason why there are windows phone fans. Its because it is a quality product and people like it. It still needs to take off, MS and developers still need to do more to encourage more apps on the store and there are some silly features missing like the volume control which controls the music and ringing volume at once. These things will come.

    Everyone one I have showed my phone to, people who are wanting to buy a new phone have all loved my windows phones and they have all been converted. This tell me that if MS and handset makers were to push out advertising on the level of android and more specifically the galaxy series Samsung's, that Windows phone market share would increase a lot.
    06-21-2013 04:56 PM
  20. Oliver Newell's Avatar
    Let's not kid ourselves, here. Android is a very good mobile OS, and has some great features that set it apart from other platforms. Google continues to innovate and will likely bring some interesting updates in its next version of Android (Key Lime Pie). The way Android goes about things appeals to many people. It is definitely the most customizable mobile OS out there, and yes, that can lead to bloat and clutter. I think if you're going to give Android a fair shot, you need to try a Nexus device to get the "pure" Android experience without all the extra carrier/OEM bloatware and UI layers.

    That being said, I have decided I'm done with Android. My reasons for leaving are many, but the main reason is that Google's products and services are all geared towards harvesting data and information from individuals to serve up targeted ads to them. Many have no problem with this, but I just didn't feel comfortable owning one of their data collection devices (Galaxy Nexus) any longer. Besides, I prefer Microsoft services (Outlook.com, SkyDrive, Skype) over Google's, so it made sense for me to give Windows Phone a shot.

    Overall, I've been impressed with my Lumia 521 in the week I've owned it. The Start Screen is a great combination of the tired old icon layout of iOS and the widget capabilities of Android into a sleek, tiled interface.

    I am, however, a bit concerned about Microsoft's commitment to the Windows Phone platform. Their latest move of rolling out Skype video messaging to just about every platform EXCEPT Windows Phone has me scratching my head wondering what in the world they were thinking. Shouldn't they have done the exact opposite? How embarrassing.

    Anyway, I'll be using this 521 for another 2-3 months before I make my final verdict and get a high-end smartphone.
    When I used android again, nothing screamed "innovative" nor did it have any sophistication that WP has. As far as I can see, android is perfect for developers, or people who feel the need to install custom ROM and flash their androids because there quad core CPU running androids still lag and crash. MS
    06-21-2013 05:03 PM
  21. WanderingTraveler's Avatar
    Hmm. Last time I counted, there were a couple cheap Android phones in my house.

    They lagged, all right, but they were good enough. What I'm afraid would happen (and already has, IMO) was consumers would accept the crap thrown onto them and shut up.

    Of course, this was also what happened with Windows years ago.
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    06-21-2013 07:51 PM
  22. tissotti's Avatar
    Android dominates the same reason Symbian dominated back in the day with Nokia behind it. True global scale with countless of variants and models with deep software support to local carriers, services, whatever.

    Android software support for everything, everywhere is its strenght. Just example adding dual SIM asha made Nokia suddenly sell 18 million of those dual SIM phones in the next quarter, just to give some scale to "small things" like dual SIM support.

    Just like Symbian, there's nothing stopping Android for many years to come to keep dominating before the software becomes a hot mess as the next big change in the industry appears, WP wont be it or any of the current products we see out there. That said neither should WP really target Android market.

    I also think the pirating community that Symbial also had has its effect especially in Asia.
    06-22-2013 11:25 AM
  23. shelbi805's Avatar
    (Just a little rant here) I personally HATE android with a passion!! And I will avoid at all cost using anything with it on.. I'm not a iPhone w**ker I've always had nokia phones the wp8 took some getting used to(still) android is like a disease in your phone that multiplies apps! I don't know how anyone understands what its doing. Only OS that needs a app to kill other apps because there everywhere
    06-22-2013 11:56 AM
  24. Duvi's Avatar
    Because it's open. Easiest answer to give. Any and every manufacturer can build on top of it, pretty much for free (no including development).
    06-22-2013 05:58 PM
  25. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Because it's open. Easiest answer to give. Any and every manufacturer can build on top of it, pretty much for free (no including development).
    I'm not sure that would necessarily be the reason. If that were the case, I think desktop Linux would have a much better market share than ~1.5%. Granted, the fork that is Android is very successful, and so are Linux servers; however, Windows dominates the desktop, with OS X a distant 2nd, and Linux almost a non-entity on the desktop.
    06-22-2013 06:37 PM
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