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  1. azcruz's Avatar
    12-18-2013 08:59 PM
  2. xandros9's Avatar
    Honestly, I don't see that happening, Samsung is putting up one heck of a fight (or killing, depending i guess)

    I don't think WP's can really factor in at this point.

    At my school, the "phonographics" (i pretty much made that up) is with nearly everyone who has a smartphone toting either a Samsung Galaxy S3+, iPhone 4+.
    And then there's a few others like a bunch of Nexii, bunch of HTC Ones, a couple lower end Samsungs, the occassional iPhone 3GS, and of course, the relatively rare Lumia. (HTC's are rare, although I saw my health teacher with a blue-purple 8X last year)
    12-18-2013 09:41 PM
  3. Jazmac's Avatar
    You can make statistics prove any story you want to sell to the public. Like this.

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    12-18-2013 09:43 PM
  4. tgp's Avatar
    You can make statistics prove any story you want to sell to the public.
    True. But remember a couple months ago when it was reported that WP was the fastest growing mobile OS because it grew by 158% in a quarter? Same thing.
    12-18-2013 10:00 PM
  5. christenmartin's Avatar
    Bullsh#$. IPhones are like 25% now and declining. SG3&4 are e
    Kicking ads. There's still residual from the last 2 years but apple is not growing. This is the usual from the tech media. Its not based on anything other than personal preference .
    12-18-2013 10:04 PM
  6. Jazmac's Avatar
    True. But remember a couple months ago when it was reported that WP was the fastest growing mobile OS because it grew by 158% in a quarter? Same thing.
    Not exactly the same thing but I agree that everybody used them, including Microsoft.
    12-18-2013 11:25 PM
  7. smoledman's Avatar
    Surface Phone could sell millions with the right design and launching with WP8.1.
    12-19-2013 12:52 AM
  8. smoledman's Avatar
    Doesn't Android have 75% market share worldwide right now?
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    12-19-2013 12:53 AM
  9. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    Given that I did just recently leave High School, I don't know i don't think so.
    This is not like the 90s or early 2000s where kids got ridiculed for having the "Knock off" electronics and what not.

    With all the multitude of choices in phones, i believe my generation is least likely to get ridiculed by their choice of phone tbh. It's usually taste in music(Ew, you like Gaga Or Bieber) lol but i doubt most teens will sit around and judge another teen because they use a different type of phone.

    Although we did tease my friend Alex...He had been rocking a flip phone for ages and I finally got him to upgrade to a Lumia 925 recently. But that was in good fun.

    Now I DO think that Teens aka my age group are more likely to go iPhone when they think that the same apps their friends use are not available on Windows Phone(though that is quickly changing it looks like). And I do think ever since iPhone went to other carriers besides Att, the iPhone lost its sort of special factor(since anyone can get an iPhone now) so most teens really don't care about what phone their friends have....as long as they can still use the same app.

    KIk for example...quite popular. It is absolute crap on WP but the iPhone version of the app works fine....It's no WP fault...It's kik's fault tbh.

    Whatsapp JUST recently started being great....even though it has been working perfectly on iPhone.

    and let's not forget Skype which for whatever reason pales in comparison to the Android and iPhone counterparts.

    But that's just my opinion anyway :P
    I believe it, Apple is...

    I saw a bunch of kids in a mall giving one of their friends a really hard time for having a 1520
    ''why u have a sidewalk in your pocket that's stupid get a iphone dude wtf ! " every kid was laughing at him.
    I bet he returns it for the iphone. Kids will be the determining factor in 2017
    12-19-2013 01:28 AM
  10. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    Doesn't Android have 75% market share worldwide right now?
    THat is true...but this thread says US.
    I think iPhone is the most popular device here in America....not worldwide.
    12-19-2013 01:29 AM
  11. psudotechzealot's Avatar
    Blah, Blah, Blah. Windows Phone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    12-19-2013 01:47 AM
  12. fdalbor's Avatar
    Actually Android has 81% of the world market. WP is growing; even Samsung makes a couple of WP phones they are covering all the bases. Say what you like you have to admire what Samsung has done. They have gone from being a minor player to the major force in Smartphones. While I am a WP person (and my wife just became one), I dont' see anyone getting as big as they are. BUT it was not too loong ago they were in the same position WP is now, you never know. Humans are strange creatures, we could all be using Firefox phones a few years from now ?????????????????????
    12-19-2013 07:10 AM
  13. jlzimmerman's Avatar
    I don't see 68% happening. All other articles speak about Android continued growth over iPhone, even in the U.S. Many people were turned off by the latest offerings of the iPhone5S and 5C many have had problems with it. I know of a few people who dislike iOS7. I agree, it's ugly. I want a grown up UI, not something developed for teenage girls. The pastel color pallet of iOS7 looks like the skittles leprechaun threw up everywhere.
    12-19-2013 07:49 AM
  14. Citizen X's Avatar
    I used to live in Oxnard California and it is a largely Hispanic working class town and kids aren't rich by any means and almost every kid
    -high school age- I see has an iPhone,
    They get after school jobs to get an iPhone, my 12 year old niece who's parents are working class, he's a mechanic and she's a afterschool aid live in Merced California -farm country, has an iPhone when I saw her a few months ago she proudly displayed her iPhone with a "I paid for it myself I got a job after school" Rich kids get their parents to buy them an iPhone, middle class and lower middle class kids work to get the money to buy them.
    Is that right...



    It amazes me how shielded from economic reality a lot of my fellow Americans are.

    We often talk about the $50 Lumia 520, but it's locked to AT&T. The unlocked version, which I imagine is what's sold in the rest of the world, costs >$150 in the US. What do 520's cost in the rest of the world?
    I don't "often talk about the $50 Lumia 520." That was the first time I've seen it and mentioned it. And you can certainly go out and get a 520 in the US that isn't locked to at&t. Tmobile routinely sells one for $80 something dollars off contract. If you get a 520 in the US and pay anywhere near $150 off contract for it you are getting totally ripped off.
    12-19-2013 08:15 AM
  15. Jas00555's Avatar
    For all those saying "well, it'll never happen since Android has an 80% markershare", here's some food for thought

    http://www.theguardian.com/technolog...s-google-apple
    12-19-2013 10:00 AM
  16. Citizen X's Avatar
    For all those saying "well, it'll never happen since Android has an 80% markershare", here's some food for thought

    Why an 80% market share might only represent half of smartphone users | Technology | theguardian.com
    Well even with whatever spin people want to put on it iphones being 68% of the installed activated consumer user base is a tough pill to swallow. That leaves 32% for Android and Windows Phone. With $50-$80 Nokia 520s out there and a host of cheap Android phones I just don't see how that is possible.
    12-19-2013 10:21 AM
  17. Jas00555's Avatar
    Well even with whatever spin people want to put on it iphones being 68% of the installed activated consumer user base is a tough pill to swallow. That leaves 32% for Android and Windows Phone. With $50-$80 Nokia 520s out there and a host of cheap Android phones I just don't see how that is possible.
    its possible because you can get some iPhones for free on contract. It doesn't matter what the off contract price is if the on-contract is $0.
    12-19-2013 10:33 AM
  18. sonus's Avatar
    At the moment, I can't see Apple taking 68% in the US. I can see them gaining some more marketshare in the US, but not to that extent. I can't see Android being knocked off the top spot for many years to come, especially worldwide.
    This is anecdotal, but I've seen many people move from Android to iPhone due to issues they've had... namely the big ones such as lag or lack of stability. I've never once heard a lay person complain about lack of updates though - which is of course the other big issue Android devices have.
    12-19-2013 11:50 AM
  19. radmanvr's Avatar
    I can see it happening
    12-19-2013 01:03 PM
  20. Citizen X's Avatar
    its possible because you can get some iPhones for free on contract. It doesn't matter what the off contract price is if the on-contract is $0.
    That is true. I suppose there are a lot of Apple zombies that will take two year old outdated tech just so they can say they have an idevice. I got a Lumia 900 for free when they first came out and I plan on getting a 1520 for $99 or less at some point. No way I am going to pay $199 for an iphone 5s or get some small screen outdated PoS idevice.
    12-19-2013 01:16 PM
  21. HeyItsSerelet's Avatar
    Not sure about the rest of the world, but in my town, most of the population is rich. Currently in high school, I see mostly everyone with iPhones, including staff and sometimes even middle and elementary school aged children with them. I have a Lumia 920 currently, and I constantly get made fun of for having the device because of the size and how it isn't an iPhone. When i ask my friends what phone they are upgrading to, its not even a question because they always upgrade to iPhone, as if its the only good phone. My town treats Apple like its the only good company. I've probably only see 10 androids in that school and 2 WP devices and I've been in the school system for a few years now. So I do see apple rising here, but not sure about anywhere else
    12-19-2013 01:35 PM
  22. NoNexus's Avatar
    lol, this is a troll post isnt it?

    If anything, iOS is losing ground to Android and WP
    WP is taking a majority of the BB users that jump ship

    in the end it will be 50% Android

    WP and iOS can fight for the other 50%
    12-19-2013 01:54 PM
  23. Reflexx's Avatar
    I think that getting near 70% market for anyone would be ridiculous unless all the competition just sucked.

    I've been seeing a lot of MS ads lately. I would not be surprised to see Windows Phones get to 20% by the time the market saturates, which may still be a few years away.

    Remember, to reach saturation you have to attract people who currently do not use smart phones. Many of these people are budget conscious and don't want to have expensive data plans. Instead, they'll buy a phone outright and use a cheap non-data plan. They may go with a 3rd party carrier.

    I also am not seeing the momentum necessary for Apple to accomplish 68%.
    12-19-2013 02:32 PM
  24. tgp's Avatar
    I don't "often talk about the $50 Lumia 520." That was the first time I've seen it and mentioned it. And you can certainly go out and get a 520 in the US that isn't locked to at&t. Tmobile routinely sells one for $80 something dollars off contract. If you get a 520 in the US and pay anywhere near $150 off contract for it you are getting totally ripped off.
    I'm not sure you're following what I'm talking about here. There is a difference between the terms "off contract" and "unlocked." You are absolutely correct that you can go out and get a 520 in the US that isn't locked to AT&T. But you will pay $149.92 for it. You are also correct in saying that T-Mobile routinely sells one for $80 something dollars off contract. T-Mobile's is a 521, which is a 520 variant. But, it's SIM locked to T-Mobile.

    So yes, you can get a 520/521 in the US for +/- $75, but it's not the same one sold worldwide. One will work only on AT&T, and the other will work only on T-Mobile. I don't know actual sales numbers of unlocked 520's vs. AT&T locked 520's, but I would think a good share of worldwide sales are the unlocked version. Those cost $150, not $50.
    12-19-2013 09:05 PM
  25. a5cent's Avatar
    ...but I would think a good share of worldwide sales are the unlocked version. Those cost $150, not $50.
    *cough* in sensible countries it is illegal to sell carrier locked phones *cough*
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    12-19-2013 09:16 PM
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