03-22-2014 07:17 AM
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  1. Bartdog's Avatar
    I'm having a hard time trying to make up my mind. I went from having the 3gs to the 4s to a Lumia 920. I got tired of the small screen and wanted a better camera. I used quite a bit of different apps just because they were available. The switch from apple to windows was easy enough so no issues there. Some basic issues soon arrived that I was used to having from my iPhone (separate volume controls for ringer and music, gapless playback, apps.) While it seems as 8.1 will fix the volume controls, I haven't heard anything about gapless. I'm a huge music buff and I hate the gaps in songs that transition into each other. And the big surprise here, the apps issue. I didn't mind not having 80 apps (exaggeration) on my windows phone. I didn't need them all. There are the basic apps (Facebook, Twitter, instagram, etc...) and not so basics like the dead yourself app from AMC or RaceJoy (GPS tracking for a lot of race events, my family are a bunch of runners) that I would love to have but no support for the windows. ALL apps have iPhone support and eventually make it to the WP store or maybe never. Its just a hard thing for me to deal with, having all the apps on Apple then switching to bare minimum on WP. I got used to it, but my patience is running thin with WP not being able to deliver on my wants app. Yes I know its not WP fault its the dev bur it still sucks that WP is the red headed step child of the smartphones. And now since the rumors gave been flying about the iPhone 6 having a 4.5 and 5.5 screen, my question I've been asking myself lately is will I be jumping back into the IOS world? The answer is I AM most likely. I know camera quality will not be as good as my trusty 920 but my god the gapless and apps. Also forgot to mention the horrible windows phone sync app for Mac. Blegh! I know that Build is around the corner and I really am anxious to see what's coming but unless they announce that Microsoft is making it easier (1 click conversion programs) for devs to port apps to WP, I still will be jumping. I will miss my camera and especially my Qi charging. But as for now, the world is running on IOS and Droid. Until WP severely steps up their game with the OS and store, I don't think it will ever make it to the limelight and overtake the other two companies. Yes , I know, "hows WP supposed to grow when people like you jump ship and don't give it a chance?" I have given it a chance and while not a bad experience, it really comes down to app availability. Its takes months and months to get a simple app after its been out for ios/droid FIRST. Microsoft NEEDS to get stuff rolling on the WP store and entice devs to port. Give em a pizza party or surface tablets, ANYTHING to further the app issue. So that's where I stand , for now, unless miracles happen for WP

    Also, my MAJOR app that I indeed miss very very dearly is the NHL Game Center Live App, I love hockey, but hockey no love my Windows Phone.
    which running apps have you tried for wp? I'm NOT a runner, so I don't understand why multiple are needed. thanks...
    03-18-2014 12:08 PM
  2. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    Not to mention that it looks like Rainbow Bright threw up all over the interface.
    And Windows Phone doesn't? Blergh, I'm a Windows Phone fan (have HTC Titan and had a Nokia Lumia 920, and am planning to hack WP8.1 onto my HTC One), but even I know that it looks like Rainbow Bright threw up all over the WP interface too.

    As to the OP, it's your choice. You sound like you're heavily invested in Apple's ecosystem so you would suit an iPhone better, IMHO.
    03-18-2014 12:10 PM
  3. Garrett Jimenez's Avatar
    And Windows Phone doesn't? Blergh, I'm a Windows Phone fan (have HTC Titan and had a Nokia Lumia 920, and am planning to hack WP8.1 onto my HTC One), but even I know that it looks like Rainbow Bright threw up all over the WP interface too.

    As to the OP, it's your choice. You sound like you're heavily invested in Apple's ecosystem so you would suit an iPhone better, IMHO.
    I'm not too invested with apple. I just have a mac desktop. I have a 360, One, Surface 1 & 2, windows 8 laptop. I'm mostly a Microsoft guy obviously. It just seems to me that Microsoft is just putting along and not forcefully trying to up the ante with WP8. Granted Nokia has done wonders for the ecosystem, its just not enough. While i love the fact that i can get free ringtones, customize my home screen and take great low light pictures, its sometimes feels that its not enough. But whatever, illl be waiting for the real specs of the new iPhone to come out and anxiously await the new WP phones and OS. Maybe I'll be surprised and stick with the WP, who knows? WP has the potential but without backing of devs,it will be a long hard road full of disappointment for some. I mean face it, the real reason most people overlook WP is the app situation, plain and simple. More apps = more users. Like I said, I'll stick it out for a while with hopes of the next ten device to break through. I just don't think it will be anytime soon that it will have people dropping their fruit and robots to rush to the WP. MS need to pull out all the stops and get this ball moving. Screw saving some features for the "next Gen" devises, get that **** out now and reap the benefits. Just like the separate volume controls, that should be a standard not an update years down the road and years behind the competition. MS needs to do work.
    03-18-2014 12:54 PM
  4. shloime's Avatar
    If you are invested in Microsoft ecosystem, iPhone 6 will feel odd. I have Xbox 360, Xbox One, Windows 8 laptop, Surface RT, Windows 8 PC at work. Now I would be foolish to invest in iPhone, so I have a Lumia 925.
    what advantage do you have having a full microsoft ecosystem?
    doesnt the iphone work exactly the same with a surface or any windows 8 computer, as well as any wp8 phone? maybe even better?
    03-18-2014 12:56 PM
  5. Jazmac's Avatar
    Just get what you want. You know what you want, I think.
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    03-18-2014 02:40 PM
  6. nzrocketman's Avatar
    I got the Iphone 5s from a Lumia 920. and I cant wait to go back to WP8. ITunes is useless, my phone almost goes flying out the windows every time I try add music from pc to the phone and trying to work out how to Bluetooth or wireless transfer without connecting my iphone into my computer. I HATE IT.
    03-18-2014 03:20 PM
  7. Guytronic's Avatar
    Just get what you want. You know what you want, I think.
    This is what many people do.
    Whenever I shop, read, query others about an upcoming purchase.
    By the time I'm overloaded with opinions I could have been enjoying the item (I will ultimately choose in spite of input) for weeks.
    03-18-2014 03:21 PM
  8. BobLobIaw's Avatar
    This is what many people do.
    Whenever I shop, read, query others about an upcoming purchase.
    By the time I'm overloaded with opinions I could have been enjoying the item (I will ultimately choose in spite of input) for weeks.
    It's the classic maximizer vs. satisficer distrinction. Maximizers drive me crazy because it takes such a Herculean effort for them to make a final decision. Research and pull the trigger, I say.
    03-18-2014 03:47 PM
  9. boovish's Avatar
    iunno about iphones they are getting longer. Attachment 59806
    You do realize that the screen increase was a one time thing, and that Tim Cook did not introduce the iPhone 4?
    03-18-2014 05:10 PM
  10. Garrett Jimenez's Avatar
    which running apps have you tried for wp? I'm NOT a runner, so I don't understand why multiple are needed. thanks...

    I have MapmyRun and RunTheMap, those work fine for me. Im talking about app specific to Race competitions. One app in particular is used as the official app for most races here in Florida, "RaceJoy". My family uses it because if gives all information pertaining to their race positions and ranking. pretty cool app though i must say. I would use the app to ready myself for them to cross the finish. I am the family photographer, So I like to have the heads up on when they're around the corner. I have to use my wifes iPhone in order to track.
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    03-18-2014 05:44 PM
  11. Garrett Jimenez's Avatar
    Another thing that bothers me are the notifications, or lack there of. I sometimes takes an hour before receiving a notification from Instagram or ESPN. when my mice and I are lounging on the couch, I open up instragram and click "like" on one of my wife pictures. Not even a blink later she says "you like that one too?" meanwhile, she will like a picture of mine and minutes go by before seeing something pop up. I know with the addition of the notification center in 8.1 will deffinately help with missed notifications. yet again, begin years behind the competition. I really am trying to love EVERYTHING about WP but some stuff doesn't make sense as to why its so difficult to take simple and what seems to be standard tasks these days forever to reach the WP
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    03-18-2014 05:49 PM
  12. j666w's Avatar
    a new phone should be one you realy want ! also if its a new phone id wait till all the cards are on the table ie iphone 6, new nokia, new htc, new Samsung etc
    03-18-2014 06:04 PM
  13. taymur's Avatar
    When the iPhone came out, it had something unique to it, as if everything was made by the same person.

    Android lacked this beauty, and struggled in the looks department.

    When WP came out, its had that charm that IO has, but look like you are in 2010, not as if you are using a 2006 piece of hardware.

    Today, iPhone suddenly changed things, I hate the looks of IO7, something is missing, I just don't know what it is.

    Android on the other hand , learned a lot, and since 4.4, I think android is doing really well.

    I really hope WP does not do something radical with 8.1, they should do what they are doing.

    BTW I'm not talking about just looks, I'm trying to point out the concept of these OSs.
    03-19-2014 02:16 AM
  14. worldspy99's Avatar
    Yeap, so hard and so personal. Everyone is different. I for one am heavily invested in the Microsoft ecosystem. Besides my phone, I have both a tablet and Windows 8 PC. To satisfy my need of those apps that haven't arrived, I hang on to my Nexus 7.
    Same here, daily driver is Lumia 810 - Surface RT with Type Cover 2 and a Win 7 Laptop issued by work. Back up is Nexus 4 and Nexus 7. iPad 2 running a TiRED OS 7.1 has been retired to my 4 year old who is happy enjoying PBS Kids, Barefoot Atlas and Apps that help her with letter writing skills.
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    03-19-2014 07:23 AM
  15. DennisvdG's Avatar
    Another thing that bothers me are the notifications, or lack there of. I sometimes takes an hour before receiving a notification from Instagram or ESPN. when my mice and I are lounging on the couch, I open up instragram and click "like" on one of my wife pictures. Not even a blink later she says "you like that one too?" meanwhile, she will like a picture of mine and minutes go by before seeing something pop up. I know with the addition of the notification center in 8.1 will deffinately help with missed notifications. yet again, begin years behind the competition. I really am trying to love EVERYTHING about WP but some stuff doesn't make sense as to why its so difficult to take simple and what seems to be standard tasks these days forever to reach the WP
    I'm not saying you are wrong but it's just difficult to understand that your notification problems are a problem with wp itself, because I never have such problems, I just really don't get it
    03-19-2014 08:41 AM
  16. James8561's Avatar
    Another thing that bothers me are the notifications, or lack there of. I sometimes takes an hour before receiving a notification from Instagram or ESPN. when my mice and I are lounging on the couch, I open up instragram and click "like" on one of my wife pictures. Not even a blink later she says "you like that one too?" meanwhile, she will like a picture of mine and minutes go by before seeing something pop up. I know with the addition of the notification center in 8.1 will deffinately help with missed notifications. yet again, begin years behind the competition. I really am trying to love EVERYTHING about WP but some stuff doesn't make sense as to why its so difficult to take simple and what seems to be standard tasks these days forever to reach the WP
    are you using 6tag? if not try that.
    03-19-2014 01:43 PM
  17. DavidinCT's Avatar
    Not much that you can do about the app problem. I came from Windows Mobile to Windows Phone, so over all the app thing has not been too bad but, in the last few months it's been bothing me. So apps that I really need and would use, do not exist for Windows Phone and from the companies "No plans". These all have apps on iOS AND Android. Games are the same way, Yea we might get them but, 6-12 months after they have been out for other platforms. Never mind the lack of Xbox live is a dispointment.

    If you can live with the App issues (as long as you can find everything you need), I like Windows Phone better than the others but, as always, there is advantages to both.

    WP 8.1 will add some WELL NEEDED features but, unless the phone sales jump crazy fast, we wont get the apps. One of those catch 22 things...
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    03-19-2014 02:06 PM
  18. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    what advantage do you have having a full microsoft ecosystem?
    doesnt the iphone work exactly the same with a surface or any windows 8 computer, as well as any wp8 phone? maybe even better?
    No it doesn't work the same. But then I don't know, never used iPhone, never will.

    WP8.1 and Windows 8.1 will share 70% of their cores. Next year they will share 100% of cores and functionalities. iPhone never will.

    What other benefit do I get? My Xbox scores stay in sync, no matter where I play my games - phone, tablet, laptop or PC. My Office docs are always on my Skydrive wherever I am. I often leave work early with half written document and the remaining I finish on my way back home on the train. I do final touch ups when I am on my bed with my Surface. iPhone probably doesn't do these stuff with Microsoft ecosystem. My Xbox Music travels everywhere with me. I pay only one subscription price and I have my exact same library and playlist of chosen songs on all my devices. I don't think iPhone has Xbox music - I may be wrong.

    With the features coming in Windows Phone 8.1, things like WiFi passwords, hotspots, IE11 favourites - all will sync and stay in sync across devices.
    03-19-2014 03:26 PM
  19. Garrett Jimenez's Avatar
    are you using 6tag? if not try that.
    yes I am, I guess it just my phone then. Maybe a factory reset is in order?
    03-19-2014 03:33 PM
  20. Garrett Jimenez's Avatar
    No it doesn't work the same. But then I don't know, never used iPhone, never will.

    WP8.1 and Windows 8.1 will share 70% of their cores. Next year they will share 100% of cores and functionalities. iPhone never will.

    What other benefit do I get? My Xbox scores stay in sync, no matter where I play my games - phone, tablet, laptop or PC. My Office docs are always on my Skydrive wherever I am. I often leave work early with half written document and the remaining I finish on my way back home on the train. I do final touch ups when I am on my bed with my Surface. iPhone probably doesn't do these stuff with Microsoft ecosystem. My Xbox Music travels everywhere with me. I pay only one subscription price and I have my exact same library and playlist of chosen songs on all my devices. I don't think iPhone has Xbox music - I may be wrong.

    With the features coming in Windows Phone 8.1, things like WiFi passwords, hotspots, IE11 favourites - all will sync and stay in sync across devices.
    It is most deffinately a catch 22 haha....
    Oops wrong qoute,I'm doing this from the WPcentral ap and its lagging like crazy 0_o
    03-19-2014 03:35 PM
  21. anony_mouse's Avatar
    No it doesn't work the same. But then I don't know, never used iPhone, never will.
    But what if the next iPhone is *really* good?
    03-19-2014 03:36 PM
  22. BobLobIaw's Avatar
    But what if the next iPhone is *really* good?
    I bet he would consider using the next iPhone *if* it is really good.
    03-19-2014 03:42 PM
  23. Garrett Jimenez's Avatar
    I bet he would consider using the next iPhone *if* it is really good.
    I bet he would too 👍
    03-19-2014 03:54 PM
  24. Garrett Jimenez's Avatar
    Maybe not, too each his own, I'm not one of those "use this brand or else your lame" fanboys...use what you like , do what you like, just don't shove your opinions down my throat...cuz what goes in, comes out and I would **** on your face <3
    03-19-2014 03:57 PM
  25. anon(8504076)'s Avatar
    But what if the next iPhone is *really* good?
    If I know Apple they'll never make a *really* good iPhone It'll always be just a bit better than it's predecessor
    03-19-2014 04:00 PM
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