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  1. TaichiSurface's Avatar
    I hope 1020 successor comes out soon. Let's see if Nokia have something up their sleeves! Better bring it!!! they're getting challenged, overtime 1020 will remain one of the best but others are slowing catching up. At least MS is starting to develop in the video aspect of things.
    05-01-2014 12:04 AM
  2. Bahamen's Avatar
    Here are 3 areas that the 1020 is far superior:

    1. The 1020 has a 1/1.5" sensor. The K Zoom uses a much smaller 1/2.3" sensor (similar size to the Xperia Z2). The 1020's image sensor being twice as large as the K Zoom's translates into superior image quality especially in lowlight. Optical zoom doesn't help on that, and frankly you would NOT want to use zoom in lowlight.

    2. The 1020's aperture is f2.2 which is much wider than the Zoom's f3.1. The difference is one full stop (i.e. 1020 receives twice more light). This makes a HUGE difference in lowlight. Combined with difference in sensor size, there's really no contest.

    3. When zoomed in, the K Zoom's aperture gets even smaller and smaller, up to f6.3 at full zoom. The 1020 doesn't suffer from this problem when zooming in, with constant aperture at f2.2.

    In theory, optical zoom sounds nice; but in practice it comes with a serious penalty - the lens is much thicker. To hold down the size, Samsung had to compromise with a poor aperture range of f3.1 - f6.3. This penalizes the camera even when the zoom is not being used, and gets worse when zoom is used.
    05-01-2014 12:59 AM
  3. Elgatodener0's Avatar
    Noway. Samsung's K Zoom is an Android phone. That's it.
    05-01-2014 02:56 AM
  4. bijak_riyandi's Avatar
    Noway. Samsung's K Zoom is an Android phone. That's it.
    that's why it lags
    05-01-2014 03:41 AM
  5. buxz777's Avatar
    the k zoom looks much better then the s4 zoom , I think it actually looks quite nice and pretty smart , it will also take some nice pics and has some solid hardware like xenon and ois however it wont match the 1020 in terms of iq and picture quality and pureness

    the sensor is much bigger on the 1020 and the optics are of a much higher grade , the kzoom camera is based on a Samsung cheap point and shoot so the lens and optics are not very high quality , then when you match this with nokias great oversampling and software the k zoom wont match it let alone beat it , the 1020 also has a better aperture meaning it will be better in low light ;-)

    it will be a good camera phone (kzoom) , a versatile one as well as it has xenon and ois to help it with night shots and fast moving subjects in dim light unlike most other camera phones

    on the 1020 we also have rich recording , anyone who has filmed a concert on a Samsung then a nokia rich recording device will know exactly what I am talking about ;-) things like that should not be ignored and just make the 1020 a much better all round camera phone ;-)

    what I don't understand is people saying that nokia need to hurry up and get the next 1020 out , nothing has come close to it yet as an all round package and we have seen most flagships already for this year , so why do nokia need to hurry up and give us a half hearted upgrade when we can wait and get a proper upgrade ;-)

    I don't think nokia will be shaking in their boots yet and I don't think many people in their right mind will be swapping their 1020s for a kzoom ;-)
    05-01-2014 05:24 AM
  6. Apocalypsebc's Avatar
    So basically a Nokia Lumia Icon with a 41 mega pixel camera!
    05-01-2014 07:19 AM
  7. MrWhiteman's Avatar
    Every Samsung product I ever owned has something wrong with it, my sister's Galaxy crashes all the time, my mates blu ray player freezes and my monitor has dead pixels. Samsung are rubbish.
    05-01-2014 08:44 AM
  8. captaincalamity's Avatar
    Not being funny, but things are getting a little ridiculous, soon, smartphones will have pop up sinks and a little cooker, Hello Samsung can I have bacon n eggs for breakfast....

    For me the Lumia still looks like a smartphone with a camera attached where as the K Zoom looks like a camera with a smartphone attached.

    8GB memory is crazy and to be honest my experience with android and external SD cards is a nightmare, much prefer internal memory, its faster, more reliable and doesn't generally corrupt
    Mavee Shah likes this.
    05-01-2014 09:04 AM
  9. Marc Calabrese's Avatar
    Android may very well be a good OS, but nothing about it screams must have.
    Samsung reels people in with hardware specs alone then they throw countless features at you that do nothing but drain your battery faster (airview, etc.).
    I carry a Note 3 as well as my 1020 and always use my 1020 as my primary phone. The real estate of the Note is excellent, but I only have it for the S-pen and some apps that either run poorly on Windows Phone or are not there at all.
    I love the 41 MP camera on the 1020 and see Samsung's "camera phones" as a camera with phone functionality rather than the opposite. Sure, it looks like a phone, but only to put it in a niche market.

    I will stick with my 1020 as my phone with an incredible camera and carry my Note for my paltry Android needs.
    Here's my biggest gripe about my WP. Nokia put a rockin' camera in my phone; it's the sole reason I bought it. Everything screams "PHOTOGRAPHY". Amazing photos, and great manual controls. Lots of photo editing apps, from both Nokia and other developers. But, BUT....There is ZERO, NADA, ZILCH, NO WAY to manage, organize, move, rename, sort, etc. the photos that are in my albums, without me tethering (or wifi) to a computer. Microsoft...what the F were you thinking? Anyone remember "QuickPic" from the Android line? A simple app that let me manage all my photos and albums (including a simple way to hide certain albums). One that's rated 4.7 of 5, with nearly 250k downloads. I can't believe there is nothing like this for WP! Found a few apps, but none as versitle and effective as QuickPic.

    Got some other gripes about WP, but this one remains the one that will make me go back to Android unless something comes out in the WP world soon.
    05-01-2014 02:27 PM
  10. Reflexx's Avatar
    Come on Samsung... this is getting ridiculous.



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    05-01-2014 07:10 PM
  11. BlackZeppelin's Avatar
    I hope 1020 successor comes out soon. Let's see if Nokia have something up their sleeves! Better bring it!!! they're getting challenged, overtime 1020 will remain one of the best but others are slowing catching up. At least MS is starting to develop in the video aspect of things.

    I will be honest. I am losing faith in a Lumia 1020 successor now with MS at the helm. Just look at what has surfaced as the first new Microsoft Mobile phone, the one codenamed "Superman". This stunning bit of gear will be the "King of the selfies" featuring a 5MP front camera.

    Really? Is this the sort of drivel we can expect now? Nokia were a truly innovative company prepared to take chances and more importantly, prepared to lose money to get their ideas and products out in the marketplace and make a name for themselves for being different, cutting edge and innovative. I fear Microsoft is anything but. MS is pure commercial interest driven, as the latest "Superman" phone rumour indicates. I don't believe they will innovate like Nokia and I don't believe there will be another 41MP phone camera.

    I hope I'm wrong but that is my gut instinct.
    05-02-2014 05:22 AM
  12. bijak_riyandi's Avatar
    I don't believe they will innovate like Nokia and I don't believe there will be another 41MP phone camera.
    the fact is that Microsoft also take the guys who designed and innovated stuffs in your phone from Nokia, so...
    05-02-2014 05:36 PM
  13. Reflexx's Avatar
    I will be honest. I am losing faith in a Lumia 1020 successor now with MS at the helm. Just look at what has surfaced as the first new Microsoft Mobile phone, the one codenamed "Superman". This stunning bit of gear will be the "King of the selfies" featuring a 5MP front camera.

    Really? Is this the sort of drivel we can expect now? Nokia were a truly innovative company prepared to take chances and more importantly, prepared to lose money to get their ideas and products out in the marketplace and make a name for themselves for being different, cutting edge and innovative. I fear Microsoft is anything but. MS is pure commercial interest driven, as the latest "Superman" phone rumour indicates. I don't believe they will innovate like Nokia and I don't believe there will be another 41MP phone camera.

    I hope I'm wrong but that is my gut instinct.
    You came to that conclusion because of one rumored device that had a good ffc?

    Not every Nokia device was amazing. Not every device is a flagship.

    MS just barely acquired Nokia. Give them a little time to actually design a service together. They're probably still barely getting new business cards
    05-03-2014 10:43 AM
  14. Sport Driver's Avatar
    This Superman was in develop before MS bought Nokia. It probably won't be before fall 2015 we will see Lumias developed only under Microsoft.
    05-03-2014 11:30 AM
  15. bijak_riyandi's Avatar
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    camera-wise, 1020 wins
    05-03-2014 09:53 PM
  16. amrut_m's Avatar
    For Now I think their can be a Lumia 1020 Successor if MS/Nokia thinks they need to bash the zoom k.
    MS/Nokia could go the way creating successors, I guess we can see it coming, the x30 series is for 2014-2015.
    we already have the 630 and 930, in future we will see 530,730,830 etc hope we see a 1030.

    If Nokia wanted to put an optical zoom in their best camera phone, they could do it easily and prove it.
    But by making a large sensor and using it as over sampling an image, who else would have thought about this tech other than Nokia, Who is the best when it comes to Camera Phones.
    They Liked to redefine technologies and try new things which no one had done before,
    Till we see a 1020 successor they would want to use new innovations and the new processors to that point where it is utilized to the fullest.

    This year we will see a lytro style camera from Nokia,who knows they mite just combine the lytro + 41mp sensor + OIS like they combined the OIS with new imaging sensor for 1020.


    Their definitely will be a 1020 successor but when, only MS/Nokia knows it.
    05-06-2014 08:53 AM
  17. bijak_riyandi's Avatar
    This year we will see a lytro style camera from Nokia,who knows they mite just combine the lytro + 41mp sensor + OIS
    it's called Nokia Refocus in the Nokia Lumia 1020
    05-06-2014 07:46 PM
  18. amrut_m's Avatar
    it's called Nokia Refocus in the Nokia Lumia 1020
    I'm not talking about the refocus app, Nokia have invested heavy in Pelican Imaging,
    Their was a phone coming with it soon, it is supposed to have Lytro Style Camera.

    Pelican Imaging's 16-lens array camera coming to smartphones next year

    Nokia Invests in Pelican Imaging for Lytro-style Cell Phone Cameras

    Now was the refocus app from this investment or a new camera module, thats a mystery,
    05-07-2014 05:22 AM
  19. bijak_riyandi's Avatar
    I hope it's not a new camera module
    05-07-2014 06:21 AM
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