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  1. MikeSo's Avatar
    But what if I wanted to move away from Android to avoid things like this? Android was "famous" for the need of flashing, resetting, rebooting, babysitting, tweaking, etc. to make it work properly. I now see more of that on WP than I have with any Android I've ever had. And to be fair to Android, it's no longer necessary for the most part. They've switched places!
    Exactly. With WP7.8 I never had to do anything of this. It "just worked".

    Of course, it also lacked a whole lot of functions. With more functionality comes more complexity, and more storage, battery and data use. C'est la vie.
    05-14-2014 11:21 AM
  2. Pierre Blackwell's Avatar
    What I find ironic is how the simple fact that this is still the developers preview and we're comparing it to a fully functioning OS speaks volumes about 8.1 which btw just released an update to the preview fixing the battery issues and other bugs. So if you had to choose a parachute, would you use a prototype or a approved one?
    WP users have been spoiled by the fact that the everyday consumer can use 8.1. If I was MS I would take it away and restrict it only to developers. Then maybe people would appreciate it. I think 8.1 is coming along very well. The simple fact that its being compared to fully functioning OS's that have been around for a while is evidence enough of what 8.1 is.
    05-14-2014 12:35 PM
  3. MikeSo's Avatar
    What I find ironic is how the simple fact that this is still the developers preview and we're comparing it to a fully functioning OS speaks volumes about 8.1 which btw just released an update to the preview fixing the battery issues and other bugs. So if you had to choose a parachute, would you use a prototype or a approved one?
    WP users have been spoiled by the fact that the everyday consumer can use 8.1. If I was MS I would take it away and restrict it only to developers. Then maybe people would appreciate it. I think 8.1 is coming along very well. The simple fact that its being compared to fully functioning OS's that have been around for a while is evidence enough of what 8.1 is.
    It will be released on brand new phones sold in stores the day after tomorrow. Will you stop hanging on to "it's just a preview" then?
    05-14-2014 01:01 PM
  4. amagner's Avatar
    For me Pocketcasts on Android doesn't need to stay in foreground in order for sleep timer to work. I realize that is one of many restrictions MS put on WP8 but I shouldn't have to remember to go back to the podcast app in order for it to auto-stop.
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    05-14-2014 01:31 PM
  5. Pierre Blackwell's Avatar
    I'm merely stating facts. Its a justified position. Once the developer tag has been removed not just me but everyone will stop calling it a preview.
    05-14-2014 01:53 PM
  6. Shubhendu Singh's Avatar
    I use a Lumia 620 too, with WP 8.1 and I see the resuming screen far less than I used to in WP 8.0, I would advise a hard reset if you have any problems. Even asphalt 8 works more smoothly 8.1 as compared to 8.0.
    i have Wp8, i plan to move to 8.1 when its final version is out.
    Well hard resetting means again emptying my fair share of net band, and also i did a hard reset just 2 weeks ago.
    It would be a great help if you could tell me whether ASPHALT 8 will resume the career/multiplayer lvls aftr hard resetting ??
    Is there a way to backup its progress !?
    05-14-2014 02:11 PM
  7. A895's Avatar
    As of right now, Android is better than WP8.1 in terms of function. But in final form and in later updates it may get there. I think their ecosystem is almost the same, Microsoft has Xbox but other than that if you live with Google you are covered with ChromeOS, and Android with Android gaming consoles and Android portable gaming devices (Nvidia Shield) that can now play half-life and Portal.

    For Microsoft services users there is Windows 8, Xbox and Windows Phone 8.1. Either company services you are covered for gaming, computing and mobile.

    Sent from my XT907 using Mobile Nations mobile app
    05-15-2014 05:56 PM
  8. Pierre Blackwell's Avatar
    Well in all retrospect Android should be better right now. The true test I think will be in a year or so. One drive allows you to do something with WP that you cant do with Android and that's a shared multi system experience. Unless Chrome comes with a 64k system, you can only do so much, and Android gaming has nothing on Xbox.
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    05-15-2014 07:45 PM
  9. A895's Avatar
    Well in all retrospect Android should be better right now. The true test I think will be in a year or so. One drive allows you to do something with WP that you cant do with Android and that's a shared multi system experience. Unless Chrome comes with a 64k system, you can only do so much, and Android gaming has nothing on Xbox.
    No its a whole different ecosystem. Its not how they compare to each other its about what works the best for you. To you Google's may be inferior but IMO it's the easiest and simplest. Everything syncs automatically, and its available on the widest range of devices.

    Consisting how long its going to take, potential for the Universal apps is great, but there has to be some interesting apps and games to take advantage of it. If it has to be compared a year from now, then this thread is too early then.

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    05-15-2014 09:53 PM
  10. carlos12001's Avatar
    But what if I wanted to move away from Android to avoid things like this? Android was "famous" for the need of flashing, resetting, rebooting, babysitting, tweaking, etc. to make it work properly. I now see more of that on WP than I have with any Android I've ever had. And to be fair to Android, it's no longer necessary for the most part. They've switched places!
    That's bull****, WP has,always been more stable than android. You're just exaggerating about the "rebooting, babysitting" stuff.
    05-16-2014 09:04 AM
  11. A895's Avatar
    That's bull****, WP has,always been more stable than android. You're just exaggerating about the "rebooting, babysitting" stuff.
    Android is just as stable as iOS or WP in recent iterations.

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    05-16-2014 01:37 PM
  12. carlos12001's Avatar
    Android is just as stable as iOS or WP in recent iterations.

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    Maybe, but all this rebooting and freezing crap on WP is false.
    05-16-2014 11:04 PM
  13. cckgz4's Avatar
    I think if you are expecting a bad experience or possibly wanting to find flaws, you're going to get that regardless.

    Sent from my all seeing 1020
    05-16-2014 11:17 PM
  14. chezm's Avatar
    Android is just as stable as iOS or WP in recent iterations.

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    Now that's an exaggeration, many of my friends have S4's and S5's with issues constantly popping up..."but that's not android stock", well people need to stop saying "Android" so loosely because its just not the case. I'm not saying WP is free of its own minor issues, esp battery draining (also existing in some Android devices)...and people can say what they want but iOs is by far the most stable of the 3 platforms.
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    05-16-2014 11:40 PM
  15. ohgood's Avatar
    App Development I'm general...

    Specifically For mapping applications.

    Offline mapping, routing, navigation is mature and usable in several apps on android. What is available on wp ?
    05-17-2014 12:59 AM
  16. A895's Avatar
    Now that's an exaggeration, many of my friends have S4's and S5's with issues constantly popping up..."but that's not android stock", well people need to stop saying "Android" so loosely because its just not the case. I'm not saying WP is free of its own minor issues, esp battery draining (also existing in some Android devices)...and people can say what they want but iOs is by far the most stable of the 3 platforms.
    By stable I mean no reboots and crashes. What do you mean by issues?

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    05-17-2014 06:32 AM
  17. carlos12001's Avatar
    App Development I'm general...

    Specifically For mapping applications.

    Offline mapping, routing, navigation is mature and usable in several apps on android. What is available on wp ?
    Judging by this post, it doesn't look like you know much about WP..
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    05-17-2014 11:44 AM
  18. ohgood's Avatar
    Judging by this post, it doesn't look like you know much about WP..
    There are lots of things I don't know much about. That's the easy part...

    do you have some favorite applications that cover what I asked about to suggest ?
    05-18-2014 06:52 AM
  19. z33dev33l's Avatar
    He's been trolling Windows Phone since before it ever officially released. Don't bother.
    05-18-2014 11:55 AM
  20. chezm's Avatar
    By stable I mean no reboots and crashes. What do you mean by issues?

    Sent from my XT907 using Mobile Nations mobile app
    Dropped calls (carrier is fine, other phones have no issues at all), accessing some areas like contacts generates errors requiring multiple attempts, they've complained about reboots (not very frequent but happens maybe once every 2 weeks), showing data connection but having issues connecting to sites (testing same sites on my phone with same network ie. LTE which works fine)...again this is what was mentioned to me by peers at work with S4/S5 not my own experience.
    05-18-2014 09:31 PM
  21. A895's Avatar
    Dropped calls (carrier is fine, other phones have no issues at all), accessing some areas like contacts generates errors requiring multiple attempts, they've complained about reboots (not very frequent but happens maybe once every 2 weeks), showing data connection but having issues connecting to sites (testing same sites on my phone with same network ie. LTE which works fine)...again this is what was mentioned to me by peers at work with S4/S5 not my own experience.
    That is not an Android issue, sounds like a phone issue. If that was an Android issue I have 3 android phones now and have no problems.
    05-18-2014 10:01 PM
  22. chezm's Avatar
    We just presumed it was a samsung/android specific issues since multiple samsung devices experiencing the same issues.
    05-19-2014 12:44 AM
  23. ohgood's Avatar
    He's been trolling Windows Phone since before it ever officially released. Don't bother.
    See the question above, maybe you have some favorite apps that cover it ?
    05-19-2014 05:38 AM
  24. A895's Avatar
    We just presumed it was a samsung/android specific issues since multiple samsung devices experiencing the same issues.
    Yeah it sounds like a Samsung issue then.

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    05-19-2014 07:19 AM
  25. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Here we go again: Android is buggy, WP8 is lacking apps, Android is open, WP8 is lacking apps, Android is customizable, WP8 is lacking apps........
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    05-19-2014 01:23 PM
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