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  1. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    You said Windows apps. Not Windows Store apps. And you've proved your "level of intelligence" many times over, so I'll just sit back and wait for the mods to clear up your act.
    clear up my act?? you insulted me twice i didnt say anything against you
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    05-22-2014 10:29 AM
  2. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    Just to correct, I said I use hangouts instead of Skype.

    As for Textra, yes, I don't have to of course. Hangouts is a perfectly good SMS app, I just find it easier to separate my Hangouts chats (which are work-related) from SMS (which is almost always spam). I don't really use SMS, just Whatsapp etc. these days.

    The point (which, as always, has been missed) is that I CAN do all these things on an Android phone. I do not have to. But I can, if I want to, and they cannot be done on iOS and WP. So, I choose Android until WP can do everything I need from a phone (mostly apps but a few core features too).
    alright then dont comment on windows phone forums go to androidcentral if you dont have anything productive to speak and calling other misinformed is like swinging the axe on your own foot, you are misinformed not me
    i dunno man something tells me you prefer the laggy malware life with bank info and other sensitive info reaching you through whatsapp
    the thing is if a preinstalled app works flawless you dont need to rely on third party , ios and wp are perfect examples of that
    android also makes poor copies of wp and ios features these days
    proof- look how widgets behave like tiles nowadays
    05-22-2014 10:30 AM
  3. A895's Avatar
    its common sense u should know this since u prefer android so much
    You are being non specific. That is what I mean. I know what Android is, you don't explain fully what you mean.

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    05-22-2014 10:32 AM
  4. A895's Avatar
    i said windows APPS note the APPS in it?? so its pretty obvious
    That is still not specific at all.

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    05-22-2014 10:32 AM
  5. A895's Avatar
    alright then dont comment on windows phone forums go to androidcentral if you dont have anything productive to speak and calling other misinformed is like swinging the axe on your own foot, you are misinformed not me
    i dunno man something tells me you prefer the laggy malware life with bank info and other sensitive info reaching you through whatsapp
    the thing is if a preinstalled app works flawless you dont need to rely on third party , ios and wp are perfect examples of that
    android also makes poor copies of wp and ios features these days
    proof- look how widgets behave like tiles nowadays
    NO. You are badly misinformed. His responses to your posts are well thought and articulated, while your responses are full of it.

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    05-22-2014 10:34 AM
  6. fatclue_98's Avatar
    alright then dont comment on windows phone forums go to androidcentral if you dont have anything productive to speak and calling other misinformed is like swinging the axe on your own foot, you are misinformed not me
    i dunno man something tells me you prefer the laggy malware life with bank info and other sensitive info reaching you through whatsapp
    the thing is if a preinstalled app works flawless you dont need to rely on third party , ios and wp are perfect examples of that
    android also makes poor copies of wp and ios features these days
    proof- look how widgets behave like tiles nowadays
    His post is quite descriptive and shows a functionality that WP8 doesn't have. I was unaware of this because it doesn't concern me. But if people don't speak up, change will never come. It's ok to be an ardent aficionado, but if there aren't dissenting points of view these boards will be nothing but a mutual admiration society. In other words, we'll turn into iMore.
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    05-22-2014 10:45 AM
  7. Lalith Prabhudev's Avatar
    I wish ppl r like that in my country spreading the word about how good windows OS is
    05-22-2014 10:50 AM
  8. Tulsi Ravi's Avatar
    Using Android - Samsung Note 2and Windows 8 - Lumia 1320
    Few differences to note and better to have or improve in windows 8.1 or later:

    1. File Manager
    2. Easy Micro SD Slot Access
    3. Nokia and MS Software needs better integration with Box, Dropbox and One Drive
    4. Good Books and EPUB Reader Apps
    5. Move applications to SD Card
    6. Looks buggy music and video application have impact on eMMC due to indexing etc
    7. App Store way behind
    8. Multiple user login - Kids/ Guest Login for secure and privacy
    9. HTML5 doesn't work properly in IE
    10. IE should provide better management of tabs and closing tabs
    11. Live streaming playback support on IE.
    12 On Windows 8 , Not able to have proper Facebook, Maps, Twitter & Whatsapp applications
    13. Contacts exports in file format and sharing & syncing contacts to multiple account
    14. Call Manager to know out/in call durations

    Thanks,
    Hope to have better tomorrow with windows phone.............
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    05-22-2014 11:15 AM
  9. ohgood's Avatar
    yeah right we believe you

    edit- here you go , you are incorrect:-
    https://www.google.com/search?q=goog...ogle%2B+forced
    I have not personally been forced to use Google+ with YouTube, or any service, to date.
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    05-22-2014 01:02 PM
  10. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I have not personally been forced to use Google+ with YouTube, or any service, to date.
    I'm not aware of any restriction to use ANY Google services. I've owned many Androids where I've installed Cyanogenmod and left out gapps. You can always sideload an apk. I know there are some apps that require Play services but they're not essential apps for me and there's always a 3rd party alternative. I just don't like the Android UI even though JB is their best effort so far.
    05-22-2014 03:25 PM
  11. A895's Avatar
    I'm not aware of any restriction to use ANY Google services. I've owned many Androids where I've installed Cyanogenmod and left out gapps. You can always sideload an apk. I know there are some apps that require Play services but they're not essential apps for me and there's always a 3rd party alternative. I just don't like the Android UI even though JB is their best effort so far.
    Don't you mean KitKat?

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    05-22-2014 05:00 PM
  12. ohgood's Avatar
    Don't you mean KitKat?

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    JellyBean ... Because it has fewer issues with hardware, compass, GPS/camera/WiFi/etc


    Kit Kat is just a smoother lag free ui
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    05-22-2014 05:58 PM
  13. fatclue_98's Avatar
    No, I meant Jelly Bean. Kit Kat broke tethering on a few devices.



    Sent from my SGH-I187 using Tapatalk
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    05-22-2014 11:06 PM
  14. A895's Avatar
    No, I meant Jelly Bean. Kit Kat broke tethering on a few devices.



    Sent from my SGH-I187 using Tapatalk
    Jelly bean was good. 4.3 was the best.

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    05-22-2014 11:23 PM
  15. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    its pointless explaining to some people that generalizing and owning is different
    get both then talk
    till then dont comment on things blindly
    05-23-2014 01:08 AM
  16. A895's Avatar
    In my opinion Android 4.4.2. is a true stepping stone for Android to be just as fast as WP or iOS. I recently read the Moto E review and it was praised for the fact it is quite fast even though it costs $139. I think that is huge.

    For as far speed they are the same, ecosystem I give the slight edge to Android because of the larger app store. For feature set, Android still wins.

    My biggest problem with 8.1 is that it brings WP up to parity to sure, but it foes not have any distinguishing features besides looks. I know looks are important but there has to be more IMO.

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    05-23-2014 06:59 AM
  17. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    In my opinion Android 4.4.2. is a true stepping stone for Android to be just as fast as WP or iOS. I recently read the Moto E review and it was praised for the fact it is quite fast even though it costs $139. I think that is huge.

    For as far speed they are the same, ecosystem I give the slight edge to Android because of the larger app store. For feature set, Android still wins.

    My biggest problem with 8.1 is that it brings WP up to parity to sure, but it foes not have any distinguishing features besides looks. I know looks are important but there has to be more IMO.

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    If it can hold its smoothness even once apps and stuff are installed and running then that's a great stepping stone for Android and for that Android will deserve credit.
    05-23-2014 07:45 AM
  18. A895's Avatar
    If it can hold its smoothness even once apps and stuff are installed and running then that's a great stepping stone for Android and for that Android will deserve credit.
    It can hold it's smoothness. The verge has a nice review on the Moto E.

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    05-23-2014 07:53 AM
  19. ohgood's Avatar
    It can hold it's smoothness. The verge has a nice review on the Moto E.

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    From personal experience instead of a web review, yes it's smooth. Haven't seen a lag since 4.2.x if memory serves. 4.4.x is blazing fast, and smooth, and the hardware I'm using is three years old.

    If the device is a mainstream (high sales) device support in the form of updates is still good so far. I would boot recommend a non both sales device though for above reasons.

    Yesterday I saw a rt tablet that stuttered quite a bit. The user said it was because WiFi had a bad bug, and offline usage was buttery smooth. She had a wp device too, so it was very unusual to see both out on a desktop in the wild.
    05-23-2014 08:33 AM
  20. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    Jelly bean was good. 4.3 was the best.

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    No,not to myself or many others.

    The problem with 4.3 and above is most newer devices have the e-fuse and Knox,and locked boot loaders, and to get 4.3 and above to the majority of folks with most year old devices without locking down the phone requires some real manipulation.

    All 4.3 roms I used had issues with them. Supposedly 4.4 is better than the rest but the roll out to the majority will be long coming if at all to many people who don't root. I do hope Microsoft has learned their lesson from doing this to their customers and continues on it's current policy of updates for all phones. Right now I see this is a advantage over any Androids.

    Mac
    05-23-2014 09:07 AM
  21. A895's Avatar
    No,not to myself or many others.

    The problem with 4.3 and above is most newer devices have the e-fuse and Knox,and locked boot loaders, and to get 4.3 and above to the majority of folks with most year old devices without locking down the phone requires some real manipulation.

    All 4.3 roms I used had issues with them. Supposedly 4.4 is better than the rest but the roll out to the majority will be long coming if at all to many people who don't root. I do hope Microsoft has learned their lesson from doing this to their customers and continues on it's current policy of updates for all phones. Right now I see this is a advantage over any Androids.

    Mac
    No one care about rooting, we been through this already. Only geeks care about a locked bootloader. FYI: a lot of phones on contract run KitKat now. Hell, I got a OTA update to KitKat on my RAZR M last week.

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    05-23-2014 09:21 AM
  22. tgp's Avatar
    No one care about rooting, we been through this already. Only geeks care about a locked bootloader. FYI: a lot of phones on contract run KitKat now. Hell, I got a OTA update to KitKat on my RAZR M last week.
    Most people don't even care about updates. A few months ago I was working with a customer, and I noticed he had a WP. It was the first time I had ever seen one in the wild. He showed it to me after I said something about it. I noticed it had an OTA update waiting. He probably didn't know what it even meant. I wouldn't be surprised if the update is still waiting!

    I think updates are only important to people like us who watch that kind of stuff. One should not buy a device on what it will become, but on what it is.
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    05-23-2014 09:35 AM
  23. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    about moto E and lumia 630 comparisons , both are solid phones no doubt but if you go to see-
    for the same price range you get great sturdy phones but a few of the moto e's cons are the 630s pros and vice versa so its unfair to say one is better than the other
    for example-
    moto e- dual core,1gb ram
    lumia 630- quad core,512mb ram
    moto e-more apps,lumia 630- better camera(not on paper, real world comparison)
    05-23-2014 10:32 AM
  24. A895's Avatar
    Most people don't even care about updates. A few months ago I was working with a customer, and I noticed he had a WP. It was the first time I had ever seen one in the wild. He showed it to me after I said something about it. I noticed it had an OTA update waiting. He probably didn't know what it even meant. I wouldn't be surprised if the update is still waiting!

    I think updates are only important to people like us who watch that kind of stuff. One should not buy a device on what it will become, but on what it is.
    You said it perfectly. We in the tech community oft forget the average consumer does not care about updates.

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    05-23-2014 12:01 PM
  25. A895's Avatar
    about moto E and lumia 630 comparisons , both are solid phones no doubt but if you go to see-
    for the same price range you get great sturdy phones but a few of the moto e's cons are the 630s pros and vice versa so its unfair to say one is better than the other
    for example-
    moto e- dual core,1gb ram
    lumia 630- quad core,512mb ram
    moto e-more apps,lumia 630- better camera(not on paper, real world comparison)
    A processor means nothing if the RAM is low. You can have a quad core on the 630, but it won't run all apps and games from the Windows Store because of that 512MB of RAM. The Moto E will run majority of apps and games from the Play Store by comparison. Also the camera bit you can't judge yet as there is not a proper review yet for it.

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    05-23-2014 12:04 PM
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