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  1. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    You said it perfectly. We in the tech community oft forget the average consumer does not care about updates.

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    though some apps dont install or work without the latest update thats when its annoying
    05-23-2014 11:47 AM
  2. Jarip's Avatar
    A processor means nothing if the RAM is low. You can have a quad core on the 630, but it won't run all apps and games from the Windows Store because of that 512MB of RAM. The Moto E will run majority of apps and games from the Play Store by comparison. Also the camera bit you can't judge yet as there is not a proper review yet for it.

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    Golf Gamebook is only 4 Mb app, but it needs 1 Gb. RAM to run by WP8 ... so I think that there is something wrong with WP (hope that MS fix it) ... :P

    Well, Moto E has only 4 Gb internal memory and android 4.4.2 do not let you move apps and games to SD ... that's very sad :(

    Lumia 630 has 8 Gb internal memory and WP8.1 let you move apps and games to SD card too ... that's great :)
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    05-23-2014 11:53 AM
  3. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    A processor means nothing if the RAM is low. You can have a quad core on the 630, but it won't run all apps and games from the Windows Store because of that 512MB of RAM. The Moto E will run majority of apps and games from the Play Store by comparison. Also the camera bit you can't judge yet as there is not a proper review yet for it.

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    ive got both phones right here in my hand right now, my grandfather and aunt bought lumia 630 and moto E so ive been playing around with both
    battery life is decent on both
    camera is absymal on moto E
    630 feels more premium in hand and screen wise
    512mb ram is enough for wp, maybe not for android which is a resource hog
    98% of apps run on 512mb
    my daily phones - 820 and 720 perform similiarly and i can play san andreas also properly on my 720
    dont generalise
    you want pics or a video review , wait for me to upload to my channel
    05-23-2014 11:57 AM
  4. prasath1234's Avatar
    What karthik says is correct lumia 630 has good camera compared to even moto g. Go nd read gsmarena review they predict lumia 630 will move volumes for Windows phone.:thumbup::D:banghead:

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    05-23-2014 12:08 PM
  5. A895's Avatar
    though some apps dont install or work without the latest update thats when its annoying
    That has never happened for popular apps ever on Android. Niche apps may require it but for popular apps never.

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    05-23-2014 12:34 PM
  6. A895's Avatar
    Golf Gamebook is only 4 Mb app, but it needs 1 Gb. RAM to run by WP8 ... so I think that there is something wrong with WP (hope that MS fix it) ... :P

    Well, Moto E has only 4 Gb internal memory and android 4.4.2 do not let you move apps and games to SD ... that's very sad :(

    Lumia 630 has 8 Gb internal memory and WP8.1 let you move apps and games to SD card too ... that's great :)
    You have to remember these are low priced devices that those who want smart phones at a low price will buy. They were never meant to hold a bunch of apps and games in the first place. Average consumers again only play the casual games and use the basic social networking apps, they aren't going to be trying to play The Dark Knight Rises or The Amazing Spiderman on these devices.

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    05-23-2014 12:38 PM
  7. Jarip's Avatar
    You have to remember these are low priced devices that those who want smart phones at a low price will buy. They were never meant to hold a bunch of apps and games in the first place. Average consumers again only play the casual games and use the basic social networking apps, they aren't going to be trying to play The Dark Knight Rises or The Amazing Spiderman on these devices.

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    Yeah, Moto E is just a feature phone (with 4 Gb internal memory and Android 4.4.2) ... :)
    05-23-2014 12:41 PM
  8. A895's Avatar
    ive got both phones right here in my hand right now, my grandfather and aunt bought lumia 630 and moto E so ive been playing around with both
    battery life is decent on both
    camera is absymal on moto E
    630 feels more premium in hand and screen wise
    512mb ram is enough for wp, maybe not for android which is a resource hog
    98% of apps run on 512mb
    my daily phones - 820 and 720 perform similiarly and i can play san andreas also properly on my 720
    dont generalise
    you want pics or a video review , wait for me to upload to my channel
    If these are budget phones, I highly doubt anyone who is buying these devices care about how good the camera is. Again, every time I make a point, you say I am generalizing when that is not true at all. The stuff you said about the 630 is subjective (screen wise and feel in hand is very subjective).

    I would rather wait for a proper review from a tech site who will put it thought it's paces.

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    05-23-2014 12:42 PM
  9. A895's Avatar
    Yeah, Moto E is just a feature phone (with 4 Gb internal memory and Android 4.4.2) ... :)
    What? No one is saying it is a feature phone, it's price is not far from a feature phone though.

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    05-23-2014 12:44 PM
  10. Jarip's Avatar
    What? No one is saying it is a feature phone, it's price is not far from a feature phone though.

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    I just said it - 4 Gb internal memory (2 Gb free) is gone fast and then they need to do hard reset, to keep it working, so it is just a feature phone :)
    05-23-2014 12:50 PM
  11. A895's Avatar
    I just said it - 4 Gb internal memory (2 Gb free) is gone fast and then they need to do hard reset, to keep it working, so it is just a feature phone :)
    That is not true in the least.

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    05-23-2014 12:54 PM
  12. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I just said it - 4 Gb internal memory (2 Gb free) is gone fast and then they need to do hard reset, to keep it working, so it is just a feature phone :)
    NO, it's not a feature phone. It's a crap smartphone.
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    05-23-2014 02:28 PM
  13. prasath1234's Avatar
    Yeah, Moto E is just a feature phone (with 4 Gb internal memory and Android 4.4.2) ... :)
    Hey just watch YouTube video you will now how moto e can play amazing Spider-Man 2 .moto e can handle such games.youth who can't afford flagship android devices buy moto e for playing latest games.

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    05-24-2014 01:56 AM
  14. maclancer's Avatar
    The only difference in both platform is that, in one you have google services and apps working and the other you have Microsoft's services and apps... Oh, and google hate Microsoft.... Microsoft at least is nice in trying to bring some google apps like YouTube... But google is so evil that they rather ask Microsoft to remove anything that is from Google in a WP. I really can't stand Google.
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    05-24-2014 02:09 AM
  15. A895's Avatar
    The only difference in both platform is that, in one you have google services and apps working and the other you have Microsoft's services and apps... Oh, and google hate Microsoft.... Microsoft at least is nice in trying to bring some google apps like YouTube... But google is so evil that they rather ask Microsoft to remove anything that is from Google in a WP. I really can't stand Google.
    Google asked Microsoft to display ads correctly in the YouTube. They didn't so they dumbed the YouTube app down. Google didn't ask Microsoft to remove anything Google from WP. It's the fact they won't being some of their services to WP. They have no specific reason to do so.

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    05-24-2014 04:23 AM
  16. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    In my opinion Android 4.4.2. is a true stepping stone for Android to be just as fast as WP or iOS. I recently read the Moto E review and it was praised for the fact it is quite fast even though it costs $139. I think that is huge.

    For as far speed they are the same, ecosystem I give the slight edge to Android because of the larger app store. For feature set, Android still wins.

    My biggest problem with 8.1 is that it brings WP up to parity to sure, but it foes not have any distinguishing features besides looks. I know looks are important but there has to be more IMO.

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    Android has no ecosystem. Apps alone don't make it a ecosystem.
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    05-24-2014 04:41 AM
  17. ohgood's Avatar
    Android has no ecosystem. Apps alone don't make it a ecosystem.
    Hmm, then what is an ecosystem in the mobile world ?
    05-24-2014 05:13 AM
  18. A895's Avatar
    Android has no ecosystem. Apps alone don't make it a ecosystem.
    You forgot about Google services. Which work the best on Android than anything.

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    05-24-2014 05:36 AM
  19. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Hmm, then what is an ecosystem in the mobile world ?
    An ecosystem is not relegated to apps. Hardware, lots of it, is what makes an ecosystem. Phones, tablets, desktop/laptops, gaming consoles and home entertainment systems - that's an ecosystem. Apple and Microsoft are it, as it's always been.
    05-24-2014 09:46 AM
  20. A895's Avatar
    An ecosystem is not relegated to apps. Hardware, lots of it, is what makes an ecosystem. Phones, tablets, desktop/laptops, gaming consoles and home entertainment systems - that's an ecosystem. Apple and Microsoft are it, as it's always been.
    Google, Microsoft, Apple and Amazon. Those are the big 4 with third party services that go along with it.

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    05-24-2014 11:52 AM
  21. ohgood's Avatar
    An ecosystem is not relegated to apps. Hardware, lots of it, is what makes an ecosystem. Phones, tablets, desktop/laptops, gaming consoles and home entertainment systems - that's an ecosystem. Apple and Microsoft are it, as it's always been.
    And, in the mobile world?
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    05-24-2014 12:51 PM
  22. fatclue_98's Avatar
    If you guys want to consider phones and tablets only as an ecosystem, I guess that's fine. In my book, desktop integration is more important than just mobility. We can agree to disagree but Apple & Microsoft are the only companies that can make this claim. Since BlackBerry and even webOS still have phones and tablets you have to include them. LG even has a webOS TV now so I guess that makes them more viable, for a dead OS anyway.
    05-24-2014 01:01 PM
  23. A895's Avatar
    If you guys want to consider phones and tablets only as an ecosystem, I guess that's fine. In my book, desktop integration is more important than just mobility. We can agree to disagree but Apple & Microsoft are the only companies that can make this claim. Since BlackBerry and even webOS still have phones and tablets you have to include them. LG even has a webOS TV now so I guess that makes them more viable, for a dead OS anyway.
    Google has ChromeOS or did you forget? Google has an ecosystem just as viable as Apple or Microsoft.

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    05-24-2014 02:57 PM
  24. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Google has ChromeOS or did you forget? Google has an ecosystem just as viable as Apple or Microsoft.

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    What is ChromeOS? I know you're not talking about that glorified browser on the ChromeBook. If you can't download drivers for peripherals, it ain't a desktop OS. Windows, OSX and Linux - that's it. What happens to a ChromeBook if it's not connected to the internet? It becomes a paperweight, that's what.
    05-24-2014 08:43 PM
  25. colinkiama's Avatar
    What is ChromeOS? I know you're not talking about that glorified browser on the ChromeBook. If you can't download drivers for peripherals, it ain't a desktop OS. Windows, OSX and Linux - that's it. What happens to a ChromeBook if it's not connected to the internet? It becomes a paperweight, that's what.
    Heey remember its wp8.1 vs Droid 4.4.2
    05-24-2014 08:59 PM
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