06-17-2014 10:26 AM
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  1. pantsaregood's Avatar
    As you may know, Motorola just released the Moto E at $130, and it is targeting the same market segment this device is intended to target. The Lumia 630 has a better CPU, but the Moto E has more RAM. Also, it hasn't been pointed out much, but the Lumia 630 will only be marginally faster than the Lumia 520 - it may have twice as many CPU cores and a 20% faster clock speed, but the Cortex A7 cores in the Lumia 630 are slower than the Krait cores in the Lumia 520.

    Honestly, it would've made more sense to push the Lumia 525 to a broader market.
    05-14-2014 12:48 PM
  2. a5cent's Avatar
    As you may know, Motorola just released the Moto E at $130, and it is targeting the same market segment this device is intended to target. The Lumia 630 has a better CPU, but the Moto E has more RAM. Also, it hasn't been pointed out much, but the Lumia 630 will only be marginally faster than the Lumia 520 - it may have twice as many CPU cores and a 20% faster clock speed, but the Cortex A7 cores in the Lumia 630 are slower than the Krait cores in the Lumia 520.

    Honestly, it would've made more sense to push the Lumia 525 to a broader market.
    I haven't tested yet, but at least based on synthetic benchmarks I'd expect the Lumia 630 to actually be slower than the 520 at almost everything except IE. I suspect it won't be noticeably slower though, particularly because very little of the UI is powered by the CPU.
    05-14-2014 01:19 PM
  3. abhiiceman's Avatar
    moto e got above 1124 ratings in 24 hrs(flipkart) and l630 got hardly got 10 :(....people are going mad about moto..


    edit:btw i never knew l520 had krait... i had just noticed the adreno-350....but even with this specs because of the poor porting or dono what even the old temple run acts sort of strange when compared to android ver...it has awesome fps but still sort of sucks..
    Kashan Osama likes this.
    05-14-2014 02:18 PM
  4. pantsaregood's Avatar
    Yeah, the entire x2x series used Krait cores. Almost any performance hiccup with the 520/620/720 was a result of 512 MB RAM. The 1 GB Lumia 525 took care of that.

    The Lumia 630 is honestly awful compared to the 525. Unless it launches at sub-$70 in America, it isn't something I could recommend. It's sad, since the Lumia 520/521 were the only phones that I'd recommend at a low price point before.

    Even doing something as simple as including 768 MB of RAM instead of 512 MB would've made it arguably better than the Lumia 520, as that would at least stop apps from force closing when they use large amounts of RAM. There's simply nothing compelling about this handset.
    MikeSo likes this.
    05-14-2014 10:39 PM
  5. Roderick Aspiras's Avatar
    Its targeting different user. Phone users who does not mind tech specs. Not all people are specs addict yah know.
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    05-15-2014 09:29 AM
  6. Jan Tomsic's Avatar
    I don't know the exact prices for each but hardware wise they're so so:

    630 has slightly lower resolution, but it also has slightly bigger screen
    630 supports bigger SD cards, 630 has more internal memory then E
    Moto E has more ram, but except for few games, 512MB on WP really isn't such an issue
    They both have 5MP cameras, but I'm pretty sure Nokias one is better (autofocus, Moto G has fixed focus), and 630 has 720p camera
    630 has snapdragon 400 (quad core), moto e has 200 (dual core), same CPU though, just different amount of cores
    630 has better graphics

    Price wise moto e is 99GBP, 630 is 10,500Rs, which is 105GBP, for 5GBP difference, strictly hardware wise, I'd go for 630. Add a 4GB memory card to E, and they cost the same. Of course we all know how well WP performs on low end hardware, and how android does. I know motorola optimizes the software well though.

    I wouldn't say 630 isn't going to cut it againt Moto E, but then again 5GBP could be a lot for India. I'm just really glad we're starting to see cheaper phones, years ago, even feature phones cost 400€, then later you could get the same features on a <100€ phone, then smartphones came and the prices rose again, and phones <200€ (off contract) weren't really any good.
    prasath1234 likes this.
    05-15-2014 10:21 AM
  7. a5cent's Avatar
    Its targeting different user. Phone users who does not mind tech specs. Not all people are specs addict yah know.
    I'd say the 630 is deliberately targeting the ignorant tech fan, who is specifically looking for a quad core device on a budget.

    This device is all about looking good on the spec sheet without increasing cost, and consciously sacrificing some performance (in most scenarios) to do so.

    Based on previous behaviour, I expect the price of the 630 to fall faster than Moto's. That might then cut it.
    weaksauce27 likes this.
    05-15-2014 10:43 AM
  8. Sport Driver's Avatar
    I don't know the exact prices for each but hardware wise they're so so:

    630 has slightly lower resolution, but it also has slightly bigger screen
    630 supports bigger SD cards, 630 has more internal memory then E
    Moto E has more ram, but except for few games, 512MB on WP really isn't such an issue
    They both have 5MP cameras, but I'm pretty sure Nokias one is better (autofocus, Moto G has fixed focus), and 630 has 720p camera
    630 has snapdragon 400 (quad core), moto e has 200 (dual core), same CPU though, just different amount of cores
    630 has better graphics

    Price wise moto e is 99GBP, 630 is 10,500Rs, which is 105GBP, for 5GBP difference, strictly hardware wise, I'd go for 630. Add a 4GB memory card to E, and they cost the same. Of course we all know how well WP performs on low end hardware, and how android does. I know motorola optimizes the software well though.

    I wouldn't say 630 isn't going to cut it againt Moto E, but then again 5GBP could be a lot for India. I'm just really glad we're starting to see cheaper phones, years ago, even feature phones cost 400, then later you could get the same features on a <100 phone, then smartphones came and the prices rose again, and phones <200 (off contract) weren't really any good.

    And also inportant, you can actually buy Lumia 630 in you home country ;) . Me and Jan can't buy Motorola in Slovenia, we have to order it from UK or Germany. This means we don't have a warranty, ok we have it but you have to send it to Germany or UK. Might not be problem for some people more familiar with technology and foreign languages but would be a big turn off for my father.

    Than with Moto E there is also a problem that it only has 4 GB of memory which, since it runs Kit Kat ,is only place on which you can store your apps.
    Gautham V kunnath likes this.
    05-15-2014 10:47 AM
  9. hprvez's Avatar
    clearblack, gorilla glass 3... anyway every motorola handset is just subpar
    05-15-2014 01:52 PM
  10. Mac182's Avatar
    Former Atrix4G user here... Don't trust them!
    05-15-2014 04:27 PM
  11. pantsaregood's Avatar
    The issue is that the Lumia 630 is not a compelling device. Lumia 520s can be had for significantly cheaper, and are faster at a number of tasks. Lumia 525s are faster all around.

    This isn't about spec-wars. It's about the fact that, unlike the case of Lumia 520/525 vs. Android phones of last year, there is no compelling reason to purchase a Lumia 630. The Lumia 520 was the only device in its price bracket that offered acceptable performance, but that isn't the case any more.
    05-15-2014 04:33 PM
  12. Wall iPhone's Avatar
    The issue is that the Lumia 630 is not a compelling device. Lumia 520s can be had for significantly cheaper, and are faster at a number of tasks. Lumia 525s are faster all around.
    You don't know what you are talking about. I saw a youtube video today, where they benchmark tested the 630 vs the 525, and the 630 ran circles around the 525, with almost double the score!
    Found it again:
    05-17-2014 08:46 AM
  13. prasath1234's Avatar
    And also inportant, you can actually buy Lumia 630 in you home country ;) . Me and Jan can't buy Motorola in Slovenia, we have to order it from UK or Germany. This means we don't have a warranty, ok we have it but you have to send it to Germany or UK. Might not be problem for some people more familiar with technology and foreign languages but would be a big turn off for my father.

    Than with Moto E there is also a problem that it only has 4 GB of memory which, since it runs Kit Kat ,is only place on which you can store your apps.
    Hey u can move apps to sd.in moto e check youtube videos.

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    05-17-2014 08:52 AM
  14. Sport Driver's Avatar
    Yes you can, with root I believe but this is phone for people whoe have never heard of root.

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    05-17-2014 10:57 AM
  15. Jan Tomsic's Avatar
    Yes you can, with root I believe but this is phone for people whoe have never heard of root.

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    Google removed the option to install apps on sd card with kitkat? What's wrong with them? I understand that internal memory is faster and more reliable but so little space is just not enough, especially because upgrade from 4 to 8 gb would cost motorola about 5 cents.

    Also how did you know I was Slovene, are you stalking me? I have no problem buying stuff from other countries, I bought the 720 for my darling on amazon.it, it was quite pricey at the time, but it didn't arrive to Slovene carriers until months later. I wouldn't have a problem getting a phone from UK, but clearly, Moto E is not meant for me :D
    05-17-2014 03:49 PM
  16. Sport Driver's Avatar
    Sure I'm stalking you, you are never safer from me :D. Ok seriously now, yes its true about Android 4.4, SD card now behaves like it used to in WP 8.

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    05-18-2014 02:22 AM
  17. prasath1234's Avatar
    Sure I'm stalking you, you are never safer from me :D. Ok seriously now, yes its true about Android 4.4, SD card now behaves like it used to in WP 8.

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    No go nd check youtube videos moto e allows app to sd though it is with kitkat.check it guys:D:p:rolleyes:

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    05-18-2014 02:24 AM
  18. Sport Driver's Avatar
    Yeah I found it, looks like they enabled this. Smart move Motorola.




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    05-18-2014 03:43 AM
  19. Sanjay Chandra's Avatar
    moto e got above 1124 ratings in 24 hrs(flipkart) and l630 got hardly got 10 :(....people are going mad about moto..

    Difference : Moto G/E is not available in outside stores but only online......

    Lumia 630 is available even outside..
    (Correct me if I am wrong)


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    05-18-2014 08:27 AM
  20. prasath1234's Avatar
    Yeah I found it, looks like they enabled this. Smart move Motorola.
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/18/umaqevan.png



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    But games cannot be moved.better to buy moto g 16 gb by saving money.

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    05-18-2014 08:49 AM
  21. Sport Driver's Avatar
    But games cannot be moved.better to buy moto g 16 gb by saving money.

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    Well great than since games are the things that uses most of the place this is useless. You can then load what, like 2 games like Asphalt 8 and FIFA 14 and you are out of memory. And this Moto G is 40-50 more expensive than Moto G 16GB.
    05-18-2014 09:23 AM
  22. prasath1234's Avatar
    Well great than since games are the things that uses most of the place this is useless. You can then load what, like 2 games like Asphalt 8 and FIFA 14 and you are out of memory. And this Moto G is 40-50 more expensive than Moto G 16GB.
    But in india moto g is only 14000.many are buying because of the price point but i believe i will go for xperia T 2 ultra mainly for its battery life.it is the excellent mid range android.:D:(:what:

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    05-18-2014 10:44 AM
  23. Sanjay Chandra's Avatar
    Well great than since games are the things that uses most of the place this is useless. You can then load what, like 2 games like Asphalt 8 and FIFA 14 and you are out of memory. And this Moto G is 40-50 more expensive than Moto G 16GB.
    Well that is the fate of low end and mid range devices on any platform......


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    05-18-2014 11:25 AM
  24. merchan's Avatar
    I also thought the Moto E would be better than the Lumia 630 but just watched a review and.... the moto e is so much worse. The only thing it got that is better is the RAM (and it has a light sensor?) but unlike Android, Windows Phone works preety good with 512 MB RAM. People are just pissed that they will not be able to play some games on such a low-end device.
    The Moto E camera, screen and storage are just the low of lows. Camera doesn't have auto-focus, the screen has really some low quality color reproduction and the storage is too tight for anything.
    The lumia 630 has an awesome larger display with clearblack for better visualization on daylight, better camera with auto-focus, double internal storage, a better cpu and a better gpu. Compared to the moto E it only lacks the light sensor and less 512MB of RAM which again is not that much of a issue on Windows phone.

    So, why it was a disappointement? Because its predecessor was the 620 and in terms of hardware got a bit dumbed down. If this phone was called lumia 530, people would go crazy. But infact, this is a sucessor to the 520 pretty much and with a really big upgrade.
    05-19-2014 01:32 AM
  25. SumairB's Avatar
    You can still play MOST games on 512 MB devices. Temple run 2 included.
    05-19-2014 01:58 AM
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