Please stop hating Google, they only spy on us to improve our experience

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bobbob1016

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Folks, riddle me this. What did people do prior to Google? I know the answer but I want to see some other responses. I'll give you a hint, you don't need Google to have a happy, productive life. In fact, you don't even need to have Google services on your Android phone. YES!!!! It's possible!!! Mine eyes have seen the glory!!!

Before Google, we had Yahoo trying to fit the entire internet into a few categories, which wouldn't work well as how could new sites be found that easily. Deep web isn't easy for people really. Before that we had BBS/Newsgroups. Which is what forums came from really.

But yes, you can use an Android phone without Google.
 

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Folks, riddle me this. What did people do prior to Google? I know the answer but I want to see some other responses. I'll give you a hint, you don't need Google to have a happy, productive life. In fact, you don't even need to have Google services on your Android phone. YES!!!! It's possible!!! Mine eyes have seen the glory!!!

Prior to owning my first Android phone (back in 2011). I didn't write down anything (lists or notes) nor did I have any presence online outside of a couple accounts on a few gaming websites.

But now that I have discovered Google Services and how easy and good they are, it will be difficult to get me away from them. Mainly because Google Calendar/Google Tasks, Google Maps and Google Drive/Docs.

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While also displaying a ad for Viagra because your best friend from high school jokingly called you limp d**k.

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No, if your best friend from HS calls you a limp d**k, you'll be getting ads from GLAAD.
 

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Folks, riddle me this. What did people do prior to Google? I know the answer but I want to see some other responses. I'll give you a hint, you don't need Google to have a happy, productive life. In fact, you don't even need to have Google services on your Android phone. YES!!!! It's possible!!! Mine eyes have seen the glory!!!

Back when I was a kid we were perfectly happy with no cell phones at all. Wonderful times indeed! This past weekend we were up in the mountains with no service, and my wife commented on how refreshing it was to be temporarily disconnected.
 

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Back when I was a kid we were perfectly happy with no cell phones at all. Wonderful times indeed! This past weekend we were up in the mountains with no service, and my wife commented on how refreshing it was to be temporarily disconnected.

Lucky you. If my wife and I want to go to the mountains in Miami we have to go to the landfill.


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I may have to disagree with A895 slightly, as technically, yes, they would show you that. If that is the *only* email you have ever sent. Otherwise other words and phrases would be much higher on their ad queue.

Hummm gives me an idea for an experiment. Set up a new yahoo! (or any other service ) email account, and a new Gmail account. Do not use either for any thing but emailing between the two. Do it for say 60 to 90 days and see what the spam and displayed ad results are over that time.







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Hummm gives me an idea for an experiment. Set up a new yahoo! (or any other service ) email account, and a new Gmail account. Do not use either for any thing but emailing between the two. Do it for say 60 to 90 days and see what the spam and displayed ad results are over that time.







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Want to do it faster and be more prolific? Assign those dummy emails to 2 teenagers.


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Hummm gives me an idea for an experiment. Set up a new yahoo! (or any other service ) email account, and a new Gmail account. Do not use either for any thing but emailing between the two. Do it for say 60 to 90 days and see what the spam and displayed ad results are over that time.

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I might tweak it a bit, and do 8 accounts total. 1 Gmail unused, 1 Yahoo unused, 1 Gmail and 1 Yahoo emailing each other, and 2 Gmails emailing each other, and 2 Yahoo's emailing each other. Making sure to be done on virus/spyware/adware free computers or VMs, so the Email addresses don't leak out. See who gets the most spam. Ads I wouldn't care about as we know both sell ads, and there wouldn't be a good test to see which is actually selling your info, without saying things that would send you to jail.
 

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I might tweak it a bit, and do 8 accounts total. 1 Gmail unused, 1 Yahoo unused, 1 Gmail and 1 Yahoo emailing each other, and 2 Gmails emailing each other, and 2 Yahoo's emailing each other. Making sure to be done on virus/spyware/adware free computers or VMs, so the Email addresses don't leak out. See who gets the most spam. Ads I wouldn't care about as we know both sell ads, and there wouldn't be a good test to see which is actually selling your info, without saying things that would send you to jail.

Interesting. I would also be interested in seeing which displayed adds more closely aligned with the context of emails received, and how long after the emails were received before the spam / ads started. Anyone interested in helping with this? I talk to myself enough as it is. If I state emailing my self, it'll just be weird!





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Well, on the flip side of that, Google also needs to be able to sell Privacy to the end users, and if there is any significant breach of that, they lose trust, ads, and really profits all together. (Basically if no one trusts their data with Google, no one will use it)

Personally, I'd say Google is outright honest with what they do. They don't make up the "Google Man" false advertising, as Microsoft does the exact same thing that they said Google does, but Microsoft only does it for Spam fighting, while Google does it for Spam and ads. No person would likely be able to read all that data.

Also, up until recently, if I wanted an XB1, I would have to have a device in my house listening to *everything* I said.

There is also this, that Microsoft read a former employee's email by hand (albeit to check that the employee leaked Windows 7 and 8):
Microsoft scans blogger's Hotmail account to track down Windows 8 leaker | The Verge

Personally, Google sells ads, and privacy as they can't sell ads without privacy. Microsoft sells software. It's really who you trust more. I like Google's services, and I vastly prefer their search to Bing, but I do like my Lumia as well. I don't like F.U.D. though.

Thanks bobbob1016, for your response. Kudos to you for taking a rational approach which at least attempts to address my position.

Time is short for me right now, so I'll answer properly tomorrow.

Regards, Ian. :)
 

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What I hate about Android: Laggy unless you buy an expensive phone with higher specs.
What I hate about Apple: Overpriced, overpriced and overpriced.
 
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