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  1. gleneston's Avatar
    They are excellent services only if you don't care about your privacy ๐Ÿ”

    Mac
    Please elaborate
    06-14-2014 11:17 AM
  2. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    Please elaborate
    It's well documented and freely available to find,if you care to ... I've found most people who use their services on this forum don't really care or want to know. Their more interested in arguing about it in their defense
    a5cent likes this.
    06-14-2014 11:21 AM
  3. gleneston's Avatar
    Common man...LOL work and personal use...you hearing your self...it has office built in...and many apps worth having.
    Obviously you haven't used Google Drive/Docs. There's no need for office. MS has a lot of catching up to do unfortunately.. hopefully they can.
    06-14-2014 11:25 AM
  4. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Obviously you haven't used Google Drive/Docs. There's no need for office. MS has a lot of catching up to do unfortunately.. hopefully they can.
    If you're a student writing school papers I'm sure Google Docs or OpenOffice is fine. In the corporate world, Office rules. To say there's no need for Office is a gross misunderstanding of "what time it is". As MDMcAtee stated, do your own research and see the worldwide adoption of MS Office vs. Google Docs, OpenOffice or anything else. Catching up? MS is like Secretariat at The Belmont.
    06-14-2014 12:51 PM
  5. Chregu's Avatar
    If you're a student writing school papers I'm sure Google Docs or OpenOffice is fine. In the corporate world, Office rules. To say there's no need for Office is a gross misunderstanding of "what time it is". As MDMcAtee stated, do your own research and see the worldwide adoption of MS Office vs. Google Docs, OpenOffice or anything else. Catching up? MS is like Secretariat at The Belmont.
    Is it okay if I just assume that you are that condescending and unpleasant by purpose? I'm just mentioning it because you might not realize that you seem like... let's say that you seem mean-spirited.

    Well, this is in phone wars after all, so I guess it's okay.

    And for a change I agree with you, Google Docs is not really comparable to MS Office.
    06-14-2014 12:59 PM
  6. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Is it okay if I just assume that you are that condescending and unpleasant by purpose? I'm just mentioning it because you might not realize that you seem like... let's say that you seem mean-spirited.

    Well, this is in phone wars after all, so I guess it's okay.

    And for a change I agree with you, Google Docs is not really comparable to MS Office.
    I'm not a condescending person but I do have a character flaw that makes me stick up for people. When I see a jive post that ridicules someone using absurd information, it makes me want to jump in and help. I hold no grudges and if I see someone mocking you, I'll be there to make it a fair fight.
    Chregu likes this.
    06-14-2014 01:15 PM
  7. ohgood's Avatar
    Well WP8.1 has that Kit Kat doesn't, the ability to move apps to the SD card.

    Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
    this is an almost three year old device running the very latest version (last nights build) of android possible:







    you can see moving of applications to sdcard is available still.

    battery lasts a little over a day and a half, with no attempts at conserving juice. shots 1080p video, and the GPS is fantastic. I hope to get a galaxy s4 next year when they're really cheap.

    still watching Nokia to see if tizen sneaks by.... cause it's either that or sailfish for me soon.
    06-14-2014 06:24 PM
  8. trivor's Avatar
    If you're a student writing school papers I'm sure Google Docs or OpenOffice is fine. In the corporate world, Office rules. To say there's no need for Office is a gross misunderstanding of "what time it is". As MDMcAtee stated, do your own research and see the worldwide adoption of MS Office vs. Google Docs, OpenOffice or anything else. Catching up? MS is like Secretariat at The Belmont.
    How did a thread about Android vs Windows Phone turn into another MS - Google Flame off.
    Nerdy Woman likes this.
    06-14-2014 06:35 PM
  9. Xenolock's Avatar
    I've got a BlackBerry Z30. Awesome phone, although the Nokia cameras kill bb's. My girl has a Lumia 1020, which is a great phone, but it doesn't have the ability to play youtubes and run a lot of other apps in the background. This is a gripe that I would have as well. The People app on Windows phones is great, but I'd take the BB's Hub over it if I had to choose. Both devices have great virtual keyboards, and live tiles are nice. Nokia with Win8.1 would be my second choice behind the new blackberries.
    06-14-2014 08:45 PM
  10. oditius's Avatar
    I played you tube videos on my 1520. I used metrotube app. If you really search there is a command you sane in ie11 that will open metrotube when you click on a you tube link

    Sent from my AT&T HTC One M8 via Tapatalk.
    06-15-2014 08:06 AM
  11. Chregu's Avatar
    I played you tube videos on my 1520. I used metrotube app. If you really search there is a command you sane in ie11 that will open metrotube when you click on a you tube link

    Sent from my AT&T HTC One M8 via Tapatalk.
    He wants to have it playing in background when another app is open, as far as I have understood it.
    06-15-2014 08:17 AM
  12. fatclue_98's Avatar
    How did a thread about Android vs Windows Phone turn into another MS - Google Flame off.
    You must not be from these parts.
    Guytronic likes this.
    06-15-2014 10:55 AM
  13. grydlok's Avatar
    You must not be from these parts.
    stuff like that is why I try to not ask questions. I was liking the photo forum but all these arguments and anti Google rhetoric turns me off.
    Guytronic likes this.
    06-17-2014 05:17 PM
  14. tgp's Avatar
    stuff like that is why I try to not ask questions. I was liking the photo forum but all these arguments and anti Google rhetoric turns me off.
    It's a forum for Microsoft products; what did you expect? ๐Ÿ˜† You won't find much love for Microsoft on AndroidCentral, although there's not nearly as much bashing over there as there is here.
    06-17-2014 06:24 PM
  15. grydlok's Avatar
    It's a forum for Microsoft products; what did you expect? You won't find much love for Microsoft on AndroidCentral, although there's not nearly as much bashing over there as there is here.
    the problem is I been looking at windows phone but I don't feel like asking question because every thing turns into a argument.
    06-18-2014 02:44 PM
  16. tgp's Avatar
    the problem is I been looking at windows phone but I don't feel like asking question because every thing turns into a argument.
    You are correct unfortunately. The amount of mud slinging here is equaled only by a political campaign.
    06-18-2014 03:54 PM
  17. fatclue_98's Avatar
    the problem is I been looking at windows phone but I don't feel like asking question because every thing turns into a argument.
    If you go into the device-specific forums you'll find all kinds of useful advice from some very knowledgeable people. However, you've entered the "Phone Wars" section and it seems as if there's a sign on the door that says "no civility required". Yes, I've been guilty of it on a few occasions but it's not like they didn't have it coming. Yes, sarcasm spoken here.
    06-18-2014 06:34 PM
  18. Slayix312's Avatar
    I wouldn't switch to a WP as my personal phone until they fix their horrible app selection, 0 customization and fix their massive amounts of broken apps that only half work. They need to get more first party support rather than rely on 3rd party devs.
    07-04-2014 01:36 PM
  19. Nerdy Woman's Avatar
    Obviously you haven't used Google Drive/Docs. There's no need for office. MS has a lot of catching up to do unfortunately.. hopefully they can.
    I'm sorry, gleneston, but comparing Google Drive/Docs to Microsoft OneDrive/Word/Excel/PowerPoint/OneNote has me ROTFLMAO. Office apps are accessible directly in OneDrive and Docs compared to Word? I had a client who insisted on using Docs for real time collaboration (which meant I couldn't use my fighter jet desktop Word app while he used the web app). I felt like I was playing in a forum post editor like we have here. He wanted a professionally formatted document using Docs. End of the day? I fired the client. He wasn't worth the pain.

    One of the coolest things about Office now is that I can save/retrieve files I've stored on OneDrive from within my desktop app. I've got 6-7 projects on which I'm collaborating with clients. We share OneNote notebooks and files and I can access their files on my WP, right alongside my own. No additional login required.

    Admittedly, I've been using Office apps for 20+ years and demand a lot more from my Word Processor than making some text bold. For me, Windows Phone makes me more productive.
    07-05-2014 07:48 AM
  20. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    Of course Office has a ton of features, but not everybody requires them. Most of users are happy with Google Docs.
    07-05-2014 07:52 AM
  21. SammyD97's Avatar
    Of course Office has a ton of features, but not everybody requires them. Most of users are happy with Google Docs.
    More like satisfied than happy. Satisfied<happy.
    07-05-2014 08:06 AM
  22. tgp's Avatar
    I'm sorry, gleneston, but comparing Google Drive/Docs to Microsoft OneDrive/Word/Excel/PowerPoint/OneNote has me ROTFLMAO. Office apps are accessible directly in OneDrive and Docs compared to Word? I had a client who insisted on using Docs for real time collaboration (which meant I couldn't use my fighter jet desktop Word app while he used the web app). I felt like I was playing in a forum post editor like we have here. He wanted a professionally formatted document using Docs. End of the day? I fired the client. He wasn't worth the pain.

    One of the coolest things about Office now is that I can save/retrieve files I've stored on OneDrive from within my desktop app. I've got 6-7 projects on which I'm collaborating with clients. We share OneNote notebooks and files and I can access their files on my WP, right alongside my own. No additional login required.

    Admittedly, I've been using Office apps for 20+ years and demand a lot more from my Word Processor than making some text bold. For me, Windows Phone makes me more productive.
    I agree that Microsoft's Office online is more robust as a whole than Google's system. But it seems you aren't too familiar with Google's. Until recently, Office online's collaboration was a joke. Google's worked much better. And due to a recent update Google's now handles Office files quite nicely. Like Silviu Bogusevschi said above, Google docs is plenty good for most users. It's not the joke you're making it out to be. I use both, and I think Google's is actually simpler to use, which would appeal to basic users who don't require much functionality.

    Microsoft has the corner on the market with their second-to-none Office suite, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. The business world is all over it, and for good reason. But Google & Apple have their own which is good enough for a lot of consumers.
    07-05-2014 08:31 AM
  23. ohgood's Avatar
    I'm sorry, gleneston, but comparing Google Drive/Docs to Microsoft OneDrive/Word/Excel/PowerPoint/OneNote has me ROTFLMAO. Office apps are accessible directly in OneDrive and Docs compared to Word? I had a client who insisted on using Docs for real time collaboration (which meant I couldn't use my fighter jet desktop Word app while he used the web app). I felt like I was playing in a forum post editor like we have here. He wanted a professionally formatted document using Docs. End of the day? I fired the client. He wasn't worth the pain.

    One of the coolest things about Office now is that I can save/retrieve files I've stored on OneDrive from within my desktop app. I've got 6-7 projects on which I'm collaborating with clients. We share OneNote notebooks and files and I can access their files on my WP, right alongside my own. No additional login required.

    Admittedly, I've been using Office apps for 20+ years and demand a lot more from my Word Processor than making some text bold. For me, Windows Phone makes me more productive.
    I'm curious what you do that isn't possible in the other (open office, Google docs, star office, etc) suites ?

    the only function I've ever seen people use in word is spell check and a few painful experiences with formatting/templates.
    07-05-2014 08:37 AM
  24. Nerdy Woman's Avatar
    I'm curious what you do that isn't possible in the other (open office, Google docs, star office, etc) suites ?

    the only function I've ever seen people use in word is spell check and a few painful experiences with formatting/templates.
    Comparing desktop apps (OpenOffice vs. MS Office - I'm not familiar with features/limitations of StarOffice), there are quite a few tools that aren't available in OpenOffice. True enough that for most users (the 90% that use 10% of the features), these things aren't relevant. Many have to do with collaboration and advanced formatting. As someone who makes a living easing those painful template experiences you mentioned (I format advanced documents and build templates for clients), I'm in the 10% that uses 90% of the features.

    If you really want a full rundown on differences between Word and OpenOffice: Differences between the OpenDocument Text (.odt) format and the Word (.docx) format - Office Starter

    And here are the differences between OpenOffice and Word Online: Differences between the OpenDocument Text (.odt) format and the Word (.docx) format used by Word Online - SharePoint Online for professionals and small businesses

    For some comparisons between Word Online and Google Docs: Google Docs opens Word files with many file integrity problems. Compare viewing results of Word Online vs. Google Docs.

    Excel Online vs. Google Sheets: Google Sheets vs. Excel Online - See Google Sheets&#39; file integrity issues when opening an Excel file.

    PowerPoint Online vs. Google Slides: Google Slides vs. PowerPoint Online - See Google Slides&#39; file integrity issues when opening a PowerPoint file.

    I know most people couldn't care less about the features they're not getting. At the end of the day, if you are working with others and sharing files, you all need to be on the same page, using the same apps. Otherwise, what you see on the screen and what they see can be two very different things. I work in the business world where Microsoft Office is still the de facto standard. Now that Microsoft has made Office available on Android and Apple devices, collaboration is easier.

    The biggest problem I've encountered is that people like what they know. If they've always used a butter knife for a screwdriver, they go to the kitchen drawer instead of the toolbox. Me? I prefer power tools. For my clients? I never hesitate to show them how to use a real screwdriver so we can get real work done.

    Could I do that with an Android phone? Sure. But the security concerns are real (not because of Google, although I do have issues with a company that makes 99.9% of its revenue selling information about the people who use their products). Perhaps there are fewer apps in the WP store because Microsoft screens apps before allowing them to be published in the store and because the WP OS is more restrictive about what 3rd-party apps can access and use.
    07-05-2014 05:20 PM
  25. ohgood's Avatar
    Comparing desktop apps (OpenOffice vs. MS Office - I'm not familiar with features/limitations of StarOffice), there are quite a few tools that aren't available in OpenOffice. True enough that for most users (the 90% that use 10% of the features), these things aren't relevant. Many have to do with collaboration and advanced formatting. As someone who makes a living easing those painful template experiences you mentioned (I format advanced documents and build templates for clients), I'm in the 10% that uses 90% of the features.

    If you really want a full rundown on differences between Word and OpenOffice: Differences between the OpenDocument Text (.odt) format and the Word (.docx) format - Office Starter

    And here are the differences between OpenOffice and Word Online: Differences between the OpenDocument Text (.odt) format and the Word (.docx) format used by Word Online - SharePoint Online for professionals and small businesses

    For some comparisons between Word Online and Google Docs: Google Docs opens Word files with many file integrity problems. Compare viewing results of Word Online vs. Google Docs.

    Excel Online vs. Google Sheets: Google Sheets vs. Excel Online - See Google Sheets&#39; file integrity issues when opening an Excel file.

    PowerPoint Online vs. Google Slides: Google Slides vs. PowerPoint Online - See Google Slides&#39; file integrity issues when opening a PowerPoint file.

    I know most people couldn't care less about the features they're not getting. At the end of the day, if you are working with others and sharing files, you all need to be on the same page, using the same apps. Otherwise, what you see on the screen and what they see can be two very different things. I work in the business world where Microsoft Office is still the de facto standard. Now that Microsoft has made Office available on Android and Apple devices, collaboration is easier.

    The biggest problem I've encountered is that people like what they know. If they've always used a butter knife for a screwdriver, they go to the kitchen drawer instead of the toolbox. Me? I prefer power tools. For my clients? I never hesitate to show them how to use a real screwdriver so we can get real work done.

    Could I do that with an Android phone? Sure. But the security concerns are real (not because of Google, although I do have issues with a company that makes 99.9% of its revenue selling information about the people who use their products). Perhaps there are fewer apps in the WP store because Microsoft screens apps before allowing them to be published in the store and because the WP OS is more restrictive about what 3rd-party apps can access and use.

    soooo, templates in Microsoft office is what you use it for? OK cool.





    as far as Google selling my information, when i Google my name, i only come up with a bunch of NASCAR racer stuff. that's a relief, because it proves the "Google is evil" theory wrong, and that racing in north America sucks.
    07-05-2014 06:11 PM
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