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  1. mister2d's Avatar
    Ah, that makes sense. So you think the iPhone is too expensive and wish it was lower priced. Well, so do I. I wish that everything I bought was lower priced, and that everything I sell was higher priced.
    No. I don't wish it were lower. You can probably ignore my posts. I don't think you are grasping my point.
    09-24-2014 06:51 PM
  2. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    I'll give them that they're brilliant in marketing, always have been. Though, not so much in crowd control when it comes to a widespread problem, which I'm wondering what they'll do with the Plus Bend.
    For one, Bendgate is completely overstated. Secondly, they're replacing all bent phones.
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    09-25-2014 08:54 AM
  3. iamtim's Avatar
    Secondly, they're replacing all bent phones.
    Source?
    09-25-2014 09:20 AM
  4. iamtim's Avatar
    Another article quoted Apple as saying that at the time of the article, they [Apple] had only received 9 complaints about bent/bending phones. Now, I realize that even though Apple has now stated they'll replace them, they'll also want to publically minimize the scope of the problem, but 9 complaints makes me wonder how much of an issue it truly is versus how much of an issue blogger pundits and news outlets is reporting it to be.
    09-25-2014 05:45 PM
  5. tgp's Avatar
    @iamtim They are hardly going to admit any true scale of the problem are they? Lol

    The Great Timmy has spoken, so it must be true. Rejoice!
    In his defense, so far we haven't heard otherwise. And if it's true, 9 out of more than 10 million isn't bad. Ha, there have probably been Lumia (or insert any other phone model) users who have gone through 9 replacements themselves!

    The antennae issue didn't hurt Apple, at least not noticeably. The Apple Maps issue didn't hurt Apple. Any software glitches such as 8.0.1 are a non issue simply because it's relatively simple to push out a fix. I don't think this will hurt Apple either. In fact, the media attention will probably end up helping. Maybe Apple did it on purpose!
    09-26-2014 08:10 AM
  6. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    The new iphone is nothing new. Still does not have-
    FM
    file manager
    Sd card slot
    Removable battery
    Micro USB
    No Bluetooth ftp
    No mtp
    No battery saver mode
    No offline maps
    Low ppi screen
    Bending problem
    No camera button
    Mediocre camera(8mp in 2014? Rip-off)
    No glance/notification led
    No lock screen notifications
    No double tap to wake
    No interchangeable colour shells
    Email client sucks as comp to WP
    Still have to manage everything through itunes
    imessage problem not fixed
    Can't project screen via USB to a PC.
    Only 2 mics,1520 has 4 for half the price.
    My $20 Nokia dumbphone has an sd slot,fm, file manager, removable battery. Apple can't put that in a 700$ smartphone? Shame.
    App gap in India as comp to WP. Many important apps are not there. Eg-
    IRCTC
    NTES
    DISQUS
    6tag
    NOKIA CAMERA (manual focus)
    Photo beamer
    Project my screen
    Microsoft Office remote
    Song arc
    Office
    Office lens(scanned image to PDF, word,ppt)
    Lexis audio editor
    Tag editor
    Jarvis
    Unibeam
    Transfer my data
    Lumia auto selfie
    Lumia refocus
    Nokia Car app

    Integrated Skype video call
    Xbox live
    Xbox smart glass
    INCODE
    Music+
    Nokia Mix radio
    Here maps with offline navigation
    Here drive+
    Here transit
    AccuWeather
    Atmosphere
    All Xbox live games!
    Bookviser
    FbReader
    Sparrow Reader
    Data sense
    Xbox music
    Xbox video
    Xbox extras
    Age of Empires: Castle seige
    Unibeam
    Last edited by S Vaibhav; 09-26-2014 at 10:54 AM.
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    09-26-2014 10:33 AM
  7. prasath1234's Avatar
    Hey agree op apple is like Mercedes if u can afford buy them they are not forcing you to buy their product.Are there any people cursing mercedes for their cost.get real people apple are the best profit making company in smartphones. They can charge any sum for their iphone because people buy them.it is choice for anyone to buy or not.if u cannot afford get what is within your budget and remain contented.
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    09-26-2014 02:39 PM
  8. iamtim's Avatar
    Hmm. You're wrong on a couple of items:

    file manager
    There are more file manager apps in the App Store with the same functionality as MS' own Files app for WP.

    No lock screen notifications
    You can set any app which has notifications to show said notifications on the lock screen.

    Email client sucks as comp to WP
    That's pretty subjective. I like WPs email client, but I prefer iOSs. I say you're wrong here, others might not.

    Still have to manage everything through iTunes
    The only thing I have to use iTunes for is to sync music which didn't come from the iTunes Music Store (I don't use iTunes Match). And recently I've been using Spotify Local Files for those, so I haven't even been plugging in for that. So, as with the email client, this is subjective; I say you're wrong, others may disagree.

    imessage problem not fixed
    I'm unaware of an iMessage problem. Care to expand?

    Office
    The Office app is actually better on iOS than it is on WP. Same with OneNote and Skype as well.

    Xbox smart glass
    Nope, it's in there, for both 360 and One. And, as with Office, OneNote, and Skype, they're actually better on iOS.
    09-26-2014 03:11 PM
  9. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    Hmm. You're wrong on a couple of items:


    There are more file manager apps in the App Store with the same functionality as MS' own Files app for WP.


    That's pretty subjective. I like WPs email client, but I prefer iOSs. I say you're wrong here, others might not.


    The only thing I have to use iTunes for is to sync music which didn't come from the iTunes Music Store (I don't use iTunes Match). And recently I've been using Spotify Local Files for those, so I haven't even been plugging in for that. So, as with the email client, this is subjective; I say you're wrong, others may disagree.


    I'm unaware of an iMessage problem. Care to expand?


    The Office app is actually better on iOS than it is on WP. Same with OneNote and Skype as well.


    Nope, it's in there, for both 360 and One. And, as with Office, OneNote, and Skype, they're actually better on iOS.
    But there is no "OFFICIAL" file manager. :)

    Paul thurrot also prefers WP email client as compared to ios. He has given some pretty good reasons on his site.

    You can't just plug in your iPhone and copy files to phone memory. You have to download and install iTunes to have to do anything with file managing. You have to sync music, videos and Office files through iTunes, cannot just copy paste via Windows explorer.

    If you leave iPhone for another phone, messages sent to you by friends can't reach you, they remain in some sort of suspended state.

    That's highly subjective. Also you get the WP app for free. You have to have an Office 365 subscription here in India to use Office on ios.

    Xbox video and music are not available in India for Android and ios. Notice,I mentioned INDIA before starting the list of missing apps.
    09-26-2014 04:04 PM
  10. badMojo69's Avatar
    I have a Lumia 1520.3, 920, LG Optimus G Pro and iPhone 6 (1st iPhone ever).
    Technically there is nothing wrong with the iPhone...IMOP I wish Microsoft had the same phone support (more than apps) network that apple has.

    Forget all the screen tech talk mumbo jumbo the screen on the 6 looks damn good and I can find just about anything I want from accessories to apps for the damn thing. The battery life is just fine for me and as I write this I have about 7 hours of stand by time and I it took it off the charger at 8am.

    Get what you like and what works for you. Last thing, IOS is not even on the same level as WP. Microsoft could so blow them out of the water if they would just focus.
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    09-26-2014 04:24 PM
  11. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    But there is no "OFFICIAL" file manager. :)

    Paul thurrot also prefers WP email client as compared to ios. He has given some pretty good reasons on his site.

    You can't just plug in your iPhone and copy files to phone memory. You have to download and install iTunes to have to do anything with file managing. You have to sync music, videos and Office files through iTunes, cannot just copy paste via Windows explorer.

    If you leave iPhone for another phone, messages sent to you by friends can't reach you, they remain in some sort of suspended state.

    That's highly subjective. Also you get the WP app for free. You have to have an Office 365 subscription here in India to use Office on ios.

    Xbox video and music are not available in India for Android and ios. Notice,I mentioned INDIA before starting the list of missing apps.
    I'm going to respond to the bold. The first one is irrelevant. It's still subjective and some might still prefer iOS. The second is wrong when it comes down to the iPhone *.

    *Source: Office For iPhone And Android Is Now Free | TechCrunch
    09-27-2014 09:08 AM
  12. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    I'm going to respond to the bold. The first one is irrelevant. It's still subjective and some might still prefer iOS. The second is wrong when it comes down to the iPhone *.

    *Source: Office For iPhone And Android Is Now Free | TechCrunch
    Right, you have no problems with using a third party file manager on ios, but when it comes down to WP, sir wants everything to be official. Yeah, right. I get the idea.

    I mentioned India specifically. Office requires a 365 subscription for India.
    09-27-2014 01:39 PM
  13. iamtim's Avatar
    Anyway coming to the point, just tested the Office app on my brothers canvas HD, still demands 365 subscription.
    Well, coming to the point, I still think you're wrong. Your original post that I quoted talked about the iPhone and said that it "Still does not have ... Office". It had nothing to do with the Canvas HD. Using the Canvas HD as a test is... completely worthless in this situation.

    Allow me to direct you to Microsoft's India site for Office Mobile: Office Mobile - Office apps for iPad, iPhone, Android & Windows Phone (The /en-in/ means English - India, you can also see the India login in the top-right corner of the page.)

    If, on that site, you look under iPad, it does state that "Editing and creating documents with Office for iPad requires an eligible Office 365 subscription". However, we're talking about the iPhone and if you look under iPhone, it does not have that verbiage and actually states that "Office Mobile works great with Office 365", which clearly indicates it is an option and not a requirement. Further, if you look at the Office Mobile FAQ (accessed at Microsoft Office for home and school FAQ through the "see the list" link on the iPad page - note that it's still /en-in/), you'll see that it states "...Office Mobile for iPhone ... can be used for free for non-commercial use, simply download the app from the store on your phone..."

    I will capitulate that to access documents in SharePoint or OneDrive for Business an Office 365 subscription is required, but for consumer use there is no such requirement for the iPhone in India. At least according to Microsoft themselves.
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    09-27-2014 02:35 PM
  14. Sakitumi's Avatar
    I don't really know about iPhone performance not mot more than seeing one in peoples hand, but I have the coolest phone. It's a beautiful Nokia Lumia 620. Anyone with cool Nokias?
    09-27-2014 02:44 PM
  15. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    I don't really know about iPhone performance not mot more than seeing one in peoples hand, but I have the coolest phone. It's a beautiful Nokia Lumia 620. Anyone with cool Nokias?
    I also have a beautiful 620. In fact it is so beautiful that even apple decided to copy it's design for their iPhone 5c. 😊
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    09-28-2014 01:14 AM
  16. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    Well, coming to the point, I still think you're wrong. Your original post that I quoted talked about the iPhone and said that it "Still does not have ... Office". It had nothing to do with the Canvas HD. Using the Canvas HD as a test is... completely worthless in this situation.

    Allow me to direct you to Microsoft's India site for Office Mobile: Office Mobile - Office apps for iPad, iPhone, Android & Windows Phone (The /en-in/ means English - India, you can also see the India login in the top-right corner of the page.)

    If, on that site, you look under iPad, it does state that "Editing and creating documents with Office for iPad requires an eligible Office 365 subscription". However, we're talking about the iPhone and if you look under iPhone, it does not have that verbiage and actually states that "Office Mobile works great with Office 365", which clearly indicates it is an option and not a requirement. Further, if you look at the Office Mobile FAQ (accessed at Microsoft Office for home and school FAQ through the "see the list" link on the iPad page - note that it's still /en-in/), you'll see that it states "...Office Mobile for iPhone ... can be used for free for non-commercial use, simply download the app from the store on your phone..."

    I will capitulate that to access documents in SharePoint or OneDrive for Business an Office 365 subscription is required, but for consumer use there is no such requirement for the iPhone in India. At least according to Microsoft themselves.
    Well I just tested this on my brothers Android phone. Downloaded it, opened the app, it showed me a small slideshow on the features, and it asked me to sign in with an Office account, Which I don't have. No option to skip or anything. Beats me.
    09-28-2014 01:30 AM
  17. jwinch2's Avatar
    I have been with WP since the 920 release. I love the OS. However, we do have an app problem, regardless of what some may say. In addition, the lack of a new flagship device is a real problem. Also, exclusive releases of new phones are incredibly annoying.
    09-28-2014 01:39 AM
  18. Didier3001's Avatar
    This sort of thing is total and complete BS and I hate to see when this garbage is passed around. There's far more that goes into a product than just the parts themselves. Research is expensive. Developing a product to bring it to market is expensive. And yes, even marketing a product on the scale that Apple does is expensive. They don't just flip a switch and pop out a device.

    I get that we all prefer non-iPhone products, but that's no reason to ignore facts.
    Apple give 30% discount to their employees. I used to work for one of the largest PC manufacturer and their margin on a PC sold was 12%. So we can clearly see that Apple take more money from their customers....
    09-28-2014 04:27 AM
  19. iamtim's Avatar
    Well I just tested this on my brothers Android phone. Downloaded it, opened the app, it showed me a small slideshow on the features, and it asked me to sign in with an Office account, Which I don't have. No option to skip or anything. Beats me.
    Did you try signing in using the Microsoft account you used on your Windows Phone?

    Beyond that, your logic is supremely flawed: "the iPhone doesn't have Office because my brother's Android phone doesn't have Office" is a completely fallacious. Especially after being shown that even Microsoft says you can use Office on the iPhone for free in India.
    Last edited by iamtim; 09-28-2014 at 12:57 PM.
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    09-28-2014 11:21 AM
  20. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    Did you try signing in using the Microsoft account you used on your Windows Phone?

    Beyond that, your logic is supremely flawed: "the iPhone doesn't have Office because my brother's Android phone doesn't have Office" is a completely fallacious. Especially after being shown that even Microsoft says you can use Office on the iPhone for free in India.
    Yea, and it's saying error: Password or user name incorrect.
    09-28-2014 01:22 PM
  21. iamtim's Avatar
    Yea, and it's saying error: Password or user name incorrect.
    Well, I don't know what to tell you. Your brother's Android phone - or even Android in general - has nothing to do with Office on the iPhone, which, as I have shown, even Microsoft says is free to use in India.
    09-28-2014 06:39 PM
  22. baseballbert's Avatar
    It doesn't matter if you mentioned it or not, it's still part of the cost to make the iPhone. The physical hardware itself may only cost $270, but that's not the ONLY cost involved with manufacturing the iPhone. What about salaries and benefits for the people assembling the $270 worth of parts? Or running the machines which do the assembly, which then brings in maintenance costs for the machines?

    So, while the actual components which make up the iPhone may only run $270, the actual cost to actually make the iPhone is much higher.
    Let's also add in the op costs of each building (utilities, insurance, property tax, etc), the companies they contract for their fitness centers, all of the people who work on each campus worldwide, flying employees places for meetings, etc.

    There are a ton of costs involved in running a business and I wonder how much of that $600 they actually make.
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    09-28-2014 07:08 PM
  23. chezm's Avatar
    Well, I don't know what to tell you. Your brother's Android phone - or even Android in general - has nothing to do with Office on the iPhone, which, as I have shown, even Microsoft says is free to use in India.
    It doesnt work on Android because you need a Office 365 account (says in Google Play Store Description)...so Windows Phone does get the edge here (against Android, not iPhone has i cant confirm but know it works on my wifes 5S).

    Update: Nevermind, checked the store and a lot of people are complaining they cant sign in...must be an issue....

    Update 2: I downloaded Office Mobile for Android, logged in with no issues.
    09-29-2014 11:46 AM
  24. chezm's Avatar
    Running on my nexus 5

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    09-29-2014 11:55 AM
  25. tgp's Avatar
    Well I just tested this on my brothers Android phone. Downloaded it, opened the app, it showed me a small slideshow on the features, and it asked me to sign in with an Office account, Which I don't have. No option to skip or anything. Beats me.
    You need a Microsoft account, not Office 365. Office for Android is in fact free. And FWIW, Office 2013 (for PC) also requires a Microsoft account.

    It doesnt work on Android because you need a Office 365 account (says in Google Play Store Description)...so Windows Phone does get the edge here (against Android, not iPhone has i cant confirm but know it works on my wifes 5S).
    See above.
    09-29-2014 01:16 PM
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