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  1. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    You need a Microsoft account, not Office 365. Office for Android is in fact free. And FWIW, Office 2013 (for PC) also requires a Microsoft account.



    See above.
    Nope,I use Office 2013 for PC, and it doesn't require you to sign in with a Microsoft account unless your product key is locked to that specific account(I.e you purchased it online or have a school account). I just use Office 2013 for PC as is. I've haven't signed in yet with my Hotmail account.
    09-29-2014 01:23 PM
  2. tgp's Avatar
    Nope,I use Office 2013 for PC, and it doesn't require you to sign in with a Microsoft account unless your product key is locked to that specific account(I.e you purchased it online or have a school account). I just use Office 2013 for PC as is. I've haven't signed in yet with my Hotmail account.
    Well yes, I didn't clarify. You don't need to log in to the account on Office, but you need an account to install it. One way or another, you cannot use Office 2013 without a Microsoft account.
    09-29-2014 01:52 PM
  3. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    Well yes, I didn't clarify. You don't need to log in to the account on Office, but you need an account to install it. One way or another, you cannot use Office 2013 without a Microsoft account.
    Err, I'm not sure you got me. When I install Office 2013 from my CD, it asks me for my product key. I put it, it gets installed. And then I use it as normal. Nowhere during the installation process, and while using the program, does it ask for a Microsoft account except when you click files> accounts and manually sign in to upload your files to one drive. So, no, It ISN'T MANDATORY to need an MS account to use Office 2013.
    09-29-2014 02:01 PM
  4. tgp's Avatar
    Err, I'm not sure you got me. When I install Office 2013 from my CD, it asks me for my product key. I put it, it gets installed. And then I use it as normal. Nowhere during the installation process, and while using the program, does it ask for a Microsoft account except when you click files> accounts and manually sign in to upload your files to one drive. So, no, It ISN'T MANDATORY to need an MS account to use Office 2013.
    You must have Office 2010 or earlier. I believe Office 2013 is download only. Unless it's different outside the US. We sell it retail, and it's not available on a disk.

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    09-29-2014 02:27 PM
  5. chezm's Avatar
    You need a Microsoft account, not Office 365. Office for Android is in fact free. And FWIW, Office 2013 (for PC) also requires a Microsoft account.



    See above.
    Yes, i clarified afterwards as you can see i downloaded Office and have access to all my Office Cloud material as well
    09-29-2014 02:38 PM
  6. Sean Miller4's Avatar
    This is why apple lovers get a bad rap, regarding the $270 dollar amount and people giving this guy a hard time, your leaving out huge factors, EVERY other phone manuf. has the same costs that apple does, yet apple is the richest company in the world, other manuf. like Samsung actually sell more phones than apple yet apple has more money, this is because apple uses sub par parts in their phones, 8MP sensor you really think that cost a lot when there are phones with 41mp?? 1 gig of ram??!!? Lol don't be ridiculous, and if you want cold hard facts, apple spends like than a billion dollars a year on R&D yes you heard right its around 500 million, before nokia was bought by MSFT nokia spent 5 BILLION dollars per year on R&D and nokia made most phones, apple makes phones, ipods, IOS, ipads and now iwatch, yet only spend 500 million of the BILLIONS they make, they are a rip off yes you are a sucker for buying and there is no other explanation for sales other than hype from other people buying it. No it isn't the worst or the best product, but is it worth 1000? Sorry but my windows phone works day in and day and holds up way better than any iphone to drop tests nokia has videos upon videos to show their testing their phones go through, THAT costs money if apple was doing this testing they would've known about it or just don't care about the bending. Yes apple has the apps this is what happens when you have marketshare and everybody wants to develop for you, YOU get better apps and more of them, this has nothing to do with anything apple does, the apps that run like crap on windows are because developers do not care about windows, has nothing to do with the ability of msft to make a stable OS cause they already have. They are better than android because android is not a stable OS, hence the reason you get a company selling millions year after year and charging crazy prices for accessories and products that literally cost them 270 plus what 50 million in research and another 10 in marketing??? its well known Samsung spends more on marketing than apple, they are cheapskates, say on 100 billion dollars for how many years before doing something with it. Are they smart ? maybe the smartest but who cares. I happen to work in a consumer product business for a company that is top 10 biggest companies by revenue in the world, no its not a tech company, and our competition who happens to the biggest in the world in what they do as far as marketshare, makes some of the crappiest products you can imagine, biggest marketshare doesn't not mean you make the best product a lot of the time it means the opposite, now apple doesn't have the biggest but they are headed that way. If you want proof look at other manuf. other than tech sites its the same everywhere, Toyota sells an absolute TON of cars I mean pretty much more than everybody, but you would rather drive a Toyota or a FERRARI who sells very few cars, who do you think uses better quality parts? Apple is the Honda of phones, yeah they run forever everybody drives one but they are cheaply made and boring and people buy them just cause they say Honda, the only difference is Honda isn't expensive like apple so I don't feel ripped off when I buy a Honda.
    09-29-2014 03:17 PM
  7. prasath1234's Avatar
    Well I just tested this on my brothers Android phone. Downloaded it, opened the app, it showed me a small slideshow on the features, and it asked me to sign in with an Office account, Which I don't have. No option to skip or anything. Beats me.

    Sign with your Microsoft account that is it you have same office like wp.
    09-29-2014 03:25 PM
  8. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    You must have Office 2010 or earlier. I believe Office 2013 is download only. Unless it's different outside the US. We sell it retail, and it's not available on a disk.

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    No, it is a retail cd I dunno about the US. People buy the Office 2013 CD 💿 for personal use here(mostly), not online, as data plans with high speed and high data are very costly as compared to the US.
    09-29-2014 04:36 PM
  9. tgp's Avatar
    No, it is a retail cd I dunno about the US. People buy the Office 2013 CD 💿 for personal use here(mostly), not online, as data plans with high speed and high data are very costly as compared to the US.
    That's interesting! I didn't know that Office 2013 on a disk was even an option. Could you possibly take a photo of the disk and/or case and post it here? I wonder if I could get ahold of them somewhere. I'm sure lots of people would love to have that option. We recently had a customer who bought Office 2010 rather than 2013 because he didn't want to create a Microsoft account.

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    09-30-2014 10:13 PM
  10. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    That's interesting! I didn't know that Office 2013 on a disk was even an option. Could you possibly take a photo of the disk and/or case and post it here? I wonder if I could get ahold of them somewhere. I'm sure lots of people would love to have that option. We recently had a customer who bought Office 2010 rather than 2013 because he didn't want to create a Microsoft account.

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    http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft...some-countries
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    10-01-2014 07:29 AM
  11. tgp's Avatar
    Yes I researched a bit and found that out. Thanks! It makes sense that Microsoft would provide media to some places that don't have consistent high speed internet. It is a good size download.
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    10-01-2014 08:13 AM
  12. RobGG's Avatar
    The new iphone is nothing new. Still does not have-
    FM
    file manager
    Sd card slot
    Removable battery
    Micro USB
    No Bluetooth ftp
    No mtp
    No battery saver mode
    No offline maps
    Low ppi screen
    Bending problem
    No camera button
    Mediocre camera(8mp in 2014? Rip-off)
    No glance/notification led
    No lock screen notifications
    No double tap to wake
    No interchangeable colour shells
    Email client sucks as comp to WP
    Still have to manage everything through itunes
    imessage problem not fixed
    Can't project screen via USB to a PC.
    Only 2 mics,1520 has 4 for half the price.
    My $20 Nokia dumbphone has an sd slot,fm, file manager, removable battery. Apple can't put that in a 700$ smartphone? Shame.
    App gap in India as comp to WP. Many important apps are not there. Eg-
    IRCTC
    NTES
    DISQUS
    6tag
    NOKIA CAMERA (manual focus)
    Photo beamer
    Project my screen
    Microsoft Office remote
    Song arc
    Office
    Office lens(scanned image to PDF, word,ppt)
    Lexis audio editor
    Tag editor
    Jarvis
    Unibeam
    Transfer my data
    Lumia auto selfie
    Lumia refocus
    Nokia Car app

    Integrated Skype video call
    Xbox live
    Xbox smart glass
    INCODE
    Music+
    Nokia Mix radio
    Here maps with offline navigation
    Here drive+
    Here transit
    AccuWeather
    Atmosphere
    All Xbox live games!
    Bookviser
    FbReader
    Sparrow Reader
    Data sense
    Xbox music
    Xbox video
    Xbox extras
    Age of Empires: Castle seige
    Unibeam
    "FM" seriously? why? are we suddenly in the 90s again? It's ok if you need radio FM, i can understand you like to listen to your radio stations, but you're the only person i have seen wanting FM.

    Man, you are fun to read, but some of the features you list here are laughable, some aren't needed by everyone some are there and work even better, some are not even on all windows phones, yes i was one of those guys that bought an icon and never enjoyed having glance or two tap to wake up screen, now i have a physical button, a fingerprint scanner and screen notifications (yes the iphone has lockscreen notifications)

    For the record i do like WP, i've had the 925, the 1020, and the ICON as of recently, if you ask me all phones have flaws, just last year wp had a universal volume control, if you ask me that is just plain unacceptable... it's just a matter of preference of how you want to do things and what little things make a big difference to you as an individual. As of now all i miss from my icon is the better screen resolution i had, the better camera maybe, but the iphone's 6 camera isn't mediocre at all, it's not all about megapixels, fluidity and the slow mo features have been cool to play with.
    10-09-2014 01:12 PM
  13. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    "FM" seriously? why? are we suddenly in the 90s again? It's ok if you need radio FM, i can understand you like to listen to your radio stations, but you're the only person i have seen wanting FM.

    Man, you are fun to read, but some of the features you list here are laughable, some aren't needed by everyone some are there and work even better, some are not even on all windows phones, yes i was one of those guys that bought an icon and never enjoyed having glance or two tap to wake up screen, now i have a physical button, a fingerprint scanner and screen notifications (yes the iphone has lockscreen notifications)

    For the record i do like WP, i've had the 925, the 1020, and the ICON as of recently, if you ask me all phones have flaws, just last year wp had a universal volume control, if you ask me that is just plain unacceptable... it's just a matter of preference of how you want to do things and what little things make a big difference to you as an individual. As of now all i miss from my icon is the better screen resolution i had, the better camera maybe, but the iphone's 6 camera isn't mediocre at all, it's not all about megapixels, fluidity and the slow mo features have been cool to play with.
    The US is not the whole world, you know. In countries like India, China, Russia and Africa, fm is THE prime source of free news for 99% of the people. And that's nearly half the world which would like to disagree with you. Typical American.

    If you want to argue about WP and ios's past issues,I can name quite a few. No text prediction since 7 years. Lol, ultimate fail. And apple calls themselves a company. And an sd slot is a big deal for many. I personally don't like to pay 200$ for the same phone with only some extra memory. And you also can't zoom into a recording video. Fail. I can go on but that would just be a waste of time arguing with an iFanboi.
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    10-10-2014 12:20 AM
  14. psoham777's Avatar
    "FM" seriously? why? are we suddenly in the 90s again? It's ok if you need radio FM, i can understand you like to listen to your radio stations, but you're the only person i have seen wanting FM.

    Man, you are fun to read, but some of the features you list here are laughable, some aren't needed by everyone some are there and work even better, some are not even on all windows phones, yes i was one of those guys that bought an icon and never enjoyed having glance or two tap to wake up screen, now i have a physical button, a fingerprint scanner and screen notifications (yes the iphone has lockscreen notifications)

    For the record i do like WP, i've had the 925, the 1020, and the ICON as of recently, if you ask me all phones have flaws, just last year wp had a universal volume control, if you ask me that is just plain unacceptable... it's just a matter of preference of how you want to do things and what little things make a big difference to you as an individual. As of now all i miss from my icon is the better screen resolution i had, the better camera maybe, but the iphone's 6 camera isn't mediocre at all, it's not all about megapixels, fluidity and the slow mo features have been cool to play with.
    See I know many people in US don't listen to radio, doesn't mean rest of the world doesn't. Just listening to radio means living in the 90s? I have a huge music library on my phone as well as on my iPod& PC, still I prefer listening to radio as its refreshing sometimes.

    The features which an iPhone doesn't have doesn't matter to you, but those were some of the basic features which even a worst phone in the world has it. Hence since the past 2 years iPhone sales have been decreasing(apple is still making profit), & it'll continue to decrease. Yes all the phones have flaws but compared to other companies Nokia phones have less flaws & the best customer service.
    10-10-2014 12:50 AM
  15. RobGG's Avatar
    Actually I'm not American, why do you assume that?

    Look, if FM is useful for you that is great, but we are talking about smartphones here, I can get a 5 dollar radio to listen to FM stations if i wanted. What i want out of a smartphone is different, i can see live streams of tv stations, listen to live radio stations on apps i have. I have a friend that has a dumb phone that has an antenna that lets her watch TV on her small 1'' screen, that is basically the only thing it can do besides texting and making calls... does that make it a better phone?

    Go ahead and call me a ''ifanboy'' or whatever you want, I actually see WP's advantages and can see where it can be better than other platforms, but i do also see it's flaws unlike you who seem to think that your cellphone is superior in every aspect to android and ios devices and assume that anyone that disagrees with you is a ''typical American''... I'm Mexican by the way.
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    10-10-2014 04:20 AM
  16. RobGG's Avatar
    See I know many people in US don't listen to radio, doesn't mean rest of the world doesn't. Just listening to radio means living in the 90s? I have a huge music library on my phone as well as on my iPod& PC, still I prefer listening to radio as its refreshing sometimes.

    The features which an iPhone doesn't have doesn't matter to you, but those were some of the basic features which even a worst phone in the world has it. Hence since the past 2 years iPhone sales have been decreasing(apple is still making profit), & it'll continue to decrease. Yes all the phones have flaws but compared to other companies Nokia phones have less flaws & the best customer service.
    1. Radio stations are cool, I can listen to them with the tune in radio app, can also visit the radio station website and listen to it from there. I would take an official youtube app on WP over FM radio any day.

    2. I don't own apple, nor do care if it's sales are lower or higher, so that is not important to me, i just want a device that does what i want it to do, works all the time, gets updated, doesn't get hot (ICON), doesn't randomly reboot, has good battery life, and has useful apps that save me time and money. Right now IOS is a better option than WP for me.
    10-10-2014 04:29 AM
  17. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    Actually I'm not American, why do you assume that?

    Look, if FM is useful for you that is great, but we are talking about smartphones here, I can get a 5 dollar radio to listen to FM stations if i wanted. What i want out of a smartphone is different, i can see live streams of tv stations, listen to live radio stations on apps i have. I have a friend that has a dumb phone that has an antenna that lets her watch TV on her small 1'' screen, that is basically the only thing it can do besides texting and making calls... does that make it a better phone?

    Go ahead and call me a ''ifanboy'' or whatever you want, I actually see WP's advantages and can see where it can be better than other platforms, but i do also see it's flaws unlike you who seem to think that your cellphone is superior in every aspect to android and ios devices and assume that anyone that disagrees with you is a ''typical American''... I'm Mexican by the way.
    Lol Mexico is in South America, right? And since you mentioned the icon, which is obviously available only in America, you have to be American.


    An fm chip costs like,$1. Apple can't put that in a 700$ phone? Even my $20 Nokia dumbphone has radio. A "smartphone" should have all the basic features of a dumb phone by default, otherwise its not called a "smart" phone. See the logic before arguing with me. You are using your data plan on iPhone to listen to radio, so basically you're paying for something that is already free. Tell me ONE good reason as to why Apple SHOULDN'T put in an fm chip in iPhone. One.
    10-10-2014 06:16 AM
  18. psoham777's Avatar
    Actually I'm not American, why do you assume that?

    Look, if FM is useful for you that is great, but we are talking about smartphones here, I can get a 5 dollar radio to listen to FM stations if i wanted. What i want out of a smartphone is different, i can see live streams of tv stations, listen to live radio stations on apps i have. I have a friend that has a dumb phone that has an antenna that lets her watch TV on her small 1'' screen, that is basically the only thing it can do besides texting and making calls... does that make it a better phone?

    Go ahead and call me a ''ifanboy'' or whatever you want, I actually see WP's advantages and can see where it can be better than other platforms, but i do also see it's flaws unlike you who seem to think that your cellphone is superior in every aspect to android and ios devices and assume that anyone that disagrees with you is a ''typical American''... I'm Mexican by the way.
    I have many radios, Walkman etc, but why do i use it? Why should I carry it separately when I can have it in my smartphone?

    I never said WP is better than Android or iOS. Just taking about flaws of iOS, makes WP better? I'm well aware of WPs disadvantages. But compared to an iPhone they still have the basic features.
    10-10-2014 07:31 AM
  19. salmanahmad's Avatar
    The simple answer to the OP's question of whether MS/Nokia could make a smartphone that beats the iPhone is in short, not possible.

    And even if it's possible, it'll be pretty difficult.

    Nokia makes great smartphones, no doubt but they have one major shortcoming: Windows Phone.

    Windows Phone in one way or the other, and when compared as a whole doesn't come near what an iOS device can do. They'll be things that Windows Phone can do better, but compare it as a whole and it will lose.

    The iPhone does less stuff, than say an Android device would, but what it does, it does extremely well. The screen is great, the camera is amazing, the build is great, and so on...

    Apple also has a huge community to back them up as well, and many of those hardcore iOS fans can be maybe convinced to switch to Android after many many years of persuasion, but honestly very few of them will give a damn about Windows Phone.

    Then again, if Microsoft/Nokia makes an Android device with great features, who knows? It might just take off. But the chances they'll do that is very slim at best.
    10-10-2014 09:29 AM
  20. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    The new iphone is nothing new. Still does not have-
    FM
    file manager
    Sd card slot
    Removable battery
    Micro USB
    No Bluetooth ftp
    No mtp
    No battery saver mode
    No offline maps
    Low ppi screen
    Bending problem
    No camera button
    Mediocre camera(8mp in 2014? Rip-off)
    No glance/notification led
    No lock screen notifications
    No double tap to wake
    No interchangeable colour shells
    Email client sucks as comp to WP
    Still have to manage everything through itunes
    imessage problem not fixed
    Can't project screen via USB to a PC.
    Only 2 mics,1520 has 4 for half the price.
    My $20 Nokia dumbphone has an sd slot,fm, file manager, removable battery. Apple can't put that in a 700$ smartphone? Shame.
    App gap in India as comp to WP. Many important apps are not there. Eg-
    IRCTC
    NTES
    DISQUS
    6tag
    NOKIA CAMERA (manual focus)
    Photo beamer
    Project my screen
    Microsoft Office remote
    Song arc
    Office
    Office lens(scanned image to PDF, word,ppt)
    Lexis audio editor
    Tag editor
    Jarvis
    Unibeam
    Transfer my data
    Lumia auto selfie
    Lumia refocus
    Nokia Car app

    Integrated Skype video call
    Xbox live
    Xbox smart glass
    INCODE
    Music+
    Nokia Mix radio
    Here maps with offline navigation
    Here drive+
    Here transit
    AccuWeather
    Atmosphere
    All Xbox live games!
    Bookviser
    FbReader
    Sparrow Reader
    Data sense
    Xbox music
    Xbox video

    Xbox extras
    Age of Empires: Castle seige
    Unibeam
    The things in bold aren't missing from the iPhone. The 6+ has a higher PPI screen than the 1520. Sure, the Office Lens does fewer things (and is tied to OneNote at this point), but it exists. Also, one of your points is ... that he iPhone doesn't have a 3rd party Instagram app. Another one is the overstated bending problem.

    Edit: That isn't even going into further research for apps, or pointing out that the camera are about more than Megapixels.

    Edit 2: Turns out the "No lock screen notifications" thing is false as well.
    10-10-2014 10:19 AM
  21. chezm's Avatar
    The things in bold aren't missing from the iPhone. The 6+ has a higher PPI screen than the 1520. Sure, the Office Lens does fewer things (and is tied to OneNote at this point), but it exists. Also, one of your points is ... that he iPhone doesn't have a 3rd party Instagram app. Another one is the overstated bending problem.

    Edit: That isn't even going into further research for apps, or pointing out that the camera are about more than Megapixels.

    Edit 2: Turns out the "No lock screen notifications" thing is false as well.
    lock screen notifications on iPhone, especially for texts, are handled better than WP imo. I can read the texts without having to unlock the screen.
    10-10-2014 10:33 AM
  22. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    lock screen notifications on iPhone, especially for texts, are handled better than WP imo. I can read the texts without having to unlock the screen.
    My point is more that I looked over the list and saw several things that were blatantly wrong. WP is good, a person doesn't have to lie about the iPhone to make it seem better.
    10-10-2014 10:37 AM
  23. iamtim's Avatar
    A "smartphone" should have all the basic features of a dumb phone by default, otherwise its not called a "smart" phone.
    Here's the first paragraph from the Wikipedia entry on "smartphone":
    "A smartphone (or smart phone) is a mobile phone with more advanced computing capability and connectivity than basic feature phones.[1][2][3]Smartphones typically include the features of a phone with those of another popular consumer device, such as a personal digital assistant, a media player, a digital camera, and/or a GPS navigation unit. Later smartphones include all of those plus the features of a touchscreen computer, including web browsing, Wi-Fi, 3rd-party apps, motion sensor and mobile payment."

    At no point on that page does it say ANYTHING about FM radio being a requisite feature on a smartphone.

    Personally, in all of my years in IT and as a smartphone user, the first phone with FM radio was the Lumia 520 I had for a few weeks. I never once used it.

    Just because YOU like, want, and use FM radio on your smartphone does not make it a requisite function for a smartphone.
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    10-10-2014 11:21 AM
  24. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    The things in bold aren't missing from the iPhone. The 6+ has a higher PPI screen than the 1520. Sure, the Office Lens does fewer things (and is tied to OneNote at this point), but it exists. Also, one of your points is ... that he iPhone doesn't have a 3rd party Instagram app. Another one is the overstated bending problem.

    Edit: That isn't even going into further research for apps, or pointing out that the camera are about more than Megapixels.

    Edit 2: Turns out the "No lock screen notifications" thing is false as well.
    The things in bold aren't missing from the iPhone. The 6+ has a higher PPI screen than the 1520. Sure, the Office Lens does fewer things (and is tied to OneNote at this point), but it exists. Also, one of your points is ... that he iPhone doesn't have a 3rd party Instagram app. Another one is the overstated bending problem.

    Edit: That isn't even going into further research for apps, or pointing out that the camera are about more than Megapixels.

    Edit 2: Turns out the "No lock screen notifications" thing is false as well.
    Beg pardon, but what things are in bold that are not missing from ios?

    I wanted to point out that 6tag is a lot better instagram client in terms of interface and smoothness than the ios one, which I've used.


    The bending problem is not overstated. It exists in every model of the iPhone 6+.

    Err, many of these apps are useful ones that are not available on Android or ios. You can't book train tickets in India using either OS due to non availability of an official IRCTC app. But WP can. This is specifically for India, where I can safely say that there is no app gap for WP.

    You're right, is not all about megapixels. But megapixels provide more room to zoom and still get a clear picture. There are many threads in here which point out the superiority of the 1520/1020 camera over iPhone. You can search.

    You may be right about the lock screen thing. I've not used the iPhone 6 as it's not yet available where I live.
    10-10-2014 11:38 AM
  25. psoham777's Avatar
    The simple answer to the OP's question of whether MS/Nokia could make a smartphone that beats the iPhone is in short, not possible.

    And even if it's possible, it'll be pretty difficult.

    Nokia makes great smartphones, no doubt but they have one major shortcoming: Windows Phone.

    Windows Phone in one way or the other, and when compared as a whole doesn't come near what an iOS device can do. They'll be things that Windows Phone can do better, but compare it as a whole and it will lose.

    The iPhone does less stuff, than say an Android device would, but what it does, it does extremely well. The screen is great, the camera is amazing, the build is great, and so on...

    Apple also has a huge community to back them up as well, and many of those hardcore iOS fans can be maybe convinced to switch to Android after many many years of persuasion, but honestly very few of them will give a damn about Windows Phone.

    Then again, if Microsoft/Nokia makes an Android device with great features, who knows? It might just take off. But the chances they'll do that is very slim at best.
    To beat iPhone in what, bend test? Or some of those iPhones which break at the smallest fall.
    If you're just considering the smoothness of OS, WP is smooth, doesn't lag. Talking about apps/games in WP, I've already told, apps/games lag in WP due to poor app development, not because WP is not a good OS.
    Atleast WP isn't as stubborn as iOS. Deal with it.
    10-10-2014 11:46 AM
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