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  1. Maaz Mansori's Avatar
    Google requires you to create a Gmail account to use to their services. A Gmail account then required a Google+ account though I think this might have changed very recently. You still need a Google+ account for YouTube and I believe Hangouts too. Basically they are forcing you to have an e-mail address and social networking account with them whether you want to or not. There are other things like if one Gmail user sends an e-mail with an attachment to another Gmail user, it forces you to become Google+ connected before allowing the e-mail to go through. Basically they know they can't compete with Facebook so they are just doing whatever they can to force users onto their Google+ service.
    With Microsoft and Apple, all you need is to create a Microsoft account or Apple ID and you can use your own e-mail address if you do not want to use their e-mail, and then you can use the account or ID with any services you choose to do so.
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    09-27-2014 05:48 PM
  2. Greywolf1967's Avatar
    I for one don't care if we ever see a youtube app. There are many 3rd party options and with WP 8.1 videos play in ie.

    Way back when I signed up for gmail and g+...but I haven't ever used them. So they haven't really skimmed much data from me.

    I have very good services from Microsoft to not need any google anything. I did try 2 Android tablets and both were sold off and replaced with Windows Tablets.

    I've even replaced Chrome Browser with Opera and ie on my PC's

    Life can be lived without Google.
    09-27-2014 07:11 PM
  3. Danjp's Avatar
    M.YouTube.com has worked fine for me for years, I've never felt left out because I didn't have an 'app' to access web content.
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    09-27-2014 07:26 PM
  4. Visa Declined's Avatar
    The article Nerdy Woman linked has no relevance to Windows Phone getting an YouTube app.
    09-27-2014 07:46 PM
  5. Jazmac's Avatar
    The article Nerdy Woman linked has no relevance to Windows Phone getting an YouTube app.
    It was used to make a broader point. Its the kind of thing that makes Microsoft users a cut above the rest. Nerdy Woman is deep like that.
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    09-27-2014 09:18 PM
  6. greedo_greedy's Avatar
    The MyTube had been a really effective you tube client for Windows phone.
    I've been using it for a while now.
    Very fast and very stable.
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    09-27-2014 09:36 PM
  7. Visa Declined's Avatar
    It was used to make a broader point.
    She went on a tangent about Google turning Android into "Google phones".. well yeah, they are Google phones. It's their OS, and they have policies they're putting in place if device makers want to use their apps. There is an AOSP version of Android that anyone can use if they'd like to skip out on Google services.

    This still has absolutely nothing to do with a YouTube app coming or not coming to Windows Phone.
    09-28-2014 12:08 AM
  8. D M C's Avatar
    Can you change the default maps app on Android from Google maps to something else? No. Can you came the default navigation app? No. Can you uninstall Gmail? No. You can use either here maps or Bing maps and also uninstall here maps on WP, unlike Android. The OEMs are free to add their own apps instead of MS ones.

    As for the YouTube app, tell me, when MS took the effort and made the app by itself, why did Google reject it? Huh? I don't see Canonical taking the same effort for Office on Linux?
    Are you really a WP user?

    Sorry but this question is obvious seeing your lack of knowledge.
    I think myself as below average user but I know few things about WP which every WP user know but you don't .

    The purpose of Smartphone OS(specially company like Google & MS) is to straighten their services.

    now about your comment.
    First of all HERE MAP is Nokia map not MS app. We are talking about MS & Google here.
    Now MS is forcing users(more than Google) to use their services.
    Can you Uninstall
    Xbox Music, games.video
    Maps
    Outlook
    OneDrive etc.

    You can't.
    MS do not allow that to any manufacturer or users.
    Atleast Google is little better in this allowing users to change default apps.

    So, actually it's MS which is much more worse than Google regarding this flexibility thing.
    Last edited by D M C; 09-28-2014 at 01:35 AM.
    09-28-2014 01:13 AM
  9. matty032's Avatar
    I make it a point to never use google for anything.
    Sent from windows phone
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    09-28-2014 01:22 AM
  10. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    looks like this thread is filled with google defenders :D
    chill out people,we dont own MS,google etc
    we are consumers why cover up for their mistakes,lets just enjoy our products
    Jazmac and Residing like this.
    09-28-2014 01:33 AM
  11. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    Are you really a WP user?

    Sorry but this question is obvious seeing your lack of knowledge.
    I think myself as below average user but I know few things about WP which every WP user know but you don't .

    The purpose of Smartphone OS(specially company like Google & MS) is to straighten their services.

    now about your comment.
    First of all HERE MAP is Nokia map not MS app. We are talking about MS & Google here.
    Now MS is forcing users(more than Google) to use their services.
    Can you Uninstall
    Xbox Music, games.video
    Maps
    Outlook
    OneDrive etc.

    You can't.
    MS do not allow that to any manufacturer or users.
    Atleast Google is little better in this allowing users to change default apps.

    So, actually it's MS which is much more worse than Google regarding this thing.
    the difference is google forces you to use subpar services and nonsensical google + and hangouts
    they sell your data and info to companies for ads
    i understand companies need to make money but ads should be optional like MS who offers advertising id to turn off ads
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    09-28-2014 01:35 AM
  12. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    Plus I have two Gmail accounts, Google didn't force me to use it but I did because the app was amazing. I haven't have had any problems with spam.

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    Plus I agreed that yes Google gave ads, but I see them only on YouTube my homescreen and notification center isn't littered with ads. So you are wrong there.
    you arguement about emails is wrong
    theres no spam on outlook,yahoo either
    gmail is poorly designed and complicated compared to outlook
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    09-28-2014 01:39 AM
  13. Visa Declined's Avatar
    they sell your data and info to companies for ads
    No matter how many times you keep saying that, it won't be true. Educate yourself.

    As for Google services being sub-par, it's amazing that they have so many users, isn't it?
    09-28-2014 01:50 AM
  14. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    Are you really a WP user?

    Sorry but this question is obvious seeing your lack of knowledge.
    I think myself as below average user but I know few things about WP which every WP user know but you don't .

    The purpose of Smartphone OS(specially company like Google & MS) is to straighten their services.

    now about your comment.
    First of all HERE MAP is Nokia map not MS app. We are talking about MS & Google here.
    Now MS is forcing users(more than Google) to use their services.
    Can you Uninstall
    Xbox Music, games.video
    Maps
    Outlook
    OneDrive etc.

    You can't.
    MS do not allow that to any manufacturer or users.
    Atleast Google is little better in this allowing users to change default apps.

    So, actually it's MS which is much more worse than Google regarding this flexibility thing.
    Hahah you ask me if I'm a WP user. I'd you have actually owned a WP, you know that you can choose the app with which you want to open a specific file. Open the files app, or download any content from the web. Open the file. Then
    Open the files app, or download any content through IE. Then,
    1) for XML files, it asks me whether to open in IE or UC Browser.
    2) for music files, asks me whether to play in mix radio, Xbox music or moliplayer pro.
    3) for videos,asks me whether to open in Xbox videos or moliplayer pro.
    4) for photos, asks me whether to open in Lumia creative studio, Nokia camera, photo hub, Lumia selfie or 4blend HDR.
    5) for PDF files,asks me whether to open on PDF reader or Adobe reader.
    6) and other n no. Of examples......

    First buy a WP before commenting here.

    You can't uninstall Google drive, Google play music, etc in Android phones to. Also MS has a generic email app, whereas Google has a Gmail app and a generic app. Why both? I don't see Google giving flexibly in this area. There is no games hub in Android, as compared to WP. The sole purpose of the games hub was to have a single places for all your games, not Xbox promotion. Same goes for the music and video app, unlike Google.

    What flexibility does Google offer over MS? I'm curious.
    Karthik Naik likes this.
    09-28-2014 01:57 AM
  15. pedmar007's Avatar
    You do know that the same source from where you picked up the fact that Chrome is a battery hog, is the same site that told me the news that Windows Phone is removing to option to use Google as default search engine.

    But even if Microsoft didn't remove that option, Google still gives Android users Waaayyy more freedom to choose their default search engine.

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    Plus Chrome hasn't been excessively draining any of my laptop battery, I've used it for hours and hours to view YouTube videos. There could definitely be people experiencing battery issues with Chrome, but not everyone add to that all the extra awesome extensions.

    Images that you make public on OneDrive can also end up anywhere, also the images that you upload onto Facebook or the countless other social networks I'm sure you are on, why don't you complain then?

    Even with all the browsers you have on Windows Phone, you still can't change the default to something other than Internet Explorer. Oh and you also can't change the default camera app to something other than what is made by your OEM or Microsoft, you can't change your default music player(Xbox Music), you also can't change your default video player(Xbox video), and how can we forget that you can't change your default launcher, SMS and Email app.

    Your knowledge of Android is quite limited, because we can change most of our default apps from something other than what Google had intended us to use.

    Google doesn't also jam my homescreen or notification center with ads, where'd you get that idea?

    Bing Translate isn't even close to Google Translate, and a lot of countries, including mine aren't even supported by Bing Maps!

    Microsoft is friendly in "sharing" many of it's services with other platforms, but doesn't even come close to how friendly Google(and Android) is in allowing you to use anything other than their own services:

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    Please tell me more about how Google "forces" you to use it's services and Microsoft doesn't, when clearly you can replace almost all Google services with 3rd party alternatives.

    You can change your default maps app, we can pretty much change the default for everything.

    The only place where I would criticize Google is how mean they we're to Microsoft regarding the YouTube app, Microsoft did most of the work but Google continually pulled them down.

    But just a fair warning though, if Google wants it could torment Windows Phone users more by getting most 3rd party clients on Windows Phone removed because they are in conflict with YouTube's terms of service, so beware. 😉
    You just showed an example where all but 2 pics depicted nothing but Google/Android APPS!!! So where's the diversity in that?
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    09-28-2014 02:20 AM
  16. D M C's Avatar
    Hahah you ask me if I'm a WP user. I'd you have actually owned a WP, you know that you can choose the app with which you want to open a specific file. Open the files app, or download any content from the web. Open the file. Then
    Open the files app, or download any content through IE. Then,
    1) for XML files, it asks me whether to open in IE or UC Browser.
    2) for music files, asks me whether to play in mix radio, Xbox music or moliplayer pro.
    3) for videos,asks me whether to open in Xbox videos or moliplayer pro.
    4) for photos, asks me whether to open in Lumia creative studio, Nokia camera, photo hub, Lumia selfie or 4blend HDR.
    5) for PDF files,asks me whether to open on PDF reader or Adobe reader.
    6) and other n no. Of examples......

    First buy a WP before commenting here.

    You can't uninstall Google drive, Google play music, etc in Android phones to. Also MS has a generic email app, whereas Google has a Gmail app and a generic app. Why both? I don't see Google giving flexibly in this area. There is no games hub in Android, as compared to WP. The sole purpose of the games hub was to have a single places for all your games, not Xbox promotion. Same goes for the music and video app, unlike Google.

    What flexibility does Google offer over MS? I'm curious.
    I asked you a simple question.
    Tell me how do I uninstall
    OneDrive
    Xbox Apps
    Maps etc.

    I hardly use them. and these are apps too.

    Then we will talk about flexibility.
    09-28-2014 03:18 AM
  17. D M C's Avatar
    the difference is google forces you to use subpar services and nonsensical google + and hangouts
    they sell your data and info to companies for ads
    i understand companies need to make money but ads should be optional like MS who offers advertising id to turn off ads
    Didn't i mention MS forces you to use services more than Google does.
    In Android you have option to change default app.
    But MS do not offer this option.

    MS gives your data NSA.

    What point you want to discuss here.
    09-28-2014 03:27 AM
  18. Nitesh Tilwani's Avatar
    Didn't i mention MS forces you to use services more than Google does.
    In Android you have option to change default app.
    But MS do not offer this option.

    MS gives your data NSA.

    What point you want to discuss here.

    MS only restricts Default browser useage... Nothing else... You can even set Google as the search engine on IE... No force to use Bing on IE... N we get only OneDrive, OneNote n maps preinstalled, which would have been the case even 3 years back... Coz phones have always promoted Cloud Storage, Navigation and notes apps...
    Look at Google... You get Newstand, Movies, Books, Music, Hangouts, G+, apart from gDrive, Notes and GMaps... They even want to force their News reader n Books reader on you... N now they will Double this List of apps...
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    09-28-2014 03:50 AM
  19. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    I asked you a simple question.
    Tell me how do I uninstall
    OneDrive
    Xbox Apps
    Maps etc.

    I hardly use them. and these are apps too.

    Then we will talk about flexibility.
    Is your IQ lower than room temperature? Read your previous statement. You said you can't change the default apps in WP. I replied to that statement.
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    09-28-2014 03:56 AM
  20. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    Didn't i mention MS forces you to use services more than Google does.
    In Android you have option to change default app.
    But MS do not offer this option.

    MS gives your data NSA.

    What point you want to discuss here.
    Dude,I just gave you detailed description as to how you can choose the default apps in WP, and you still say you can't change default apps. Did you even read the reply?

    MS doesn't give your data to NSA. Read the terms and conditions. If you have proof of your statement, please post a link.
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    09-28-2014 04:00 AM
  21. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    Didn't i mention MS forces you to use services more than Google does.

    But MS do not offer this option.

    MS gives your data NSA.

    What point you want to discuss here.
    ^^lol not true unless you replace ms with google
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    09-28-2014 04:07 AM
  22. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    I asked you a simple question.
    Tell me how do I uninstall
    OneDrive
    Xbox Apps
    Maps etc.

    I hardly use them. and these are apps too.

    Then we will talk about flexibility.
    why uninstall them anyway? would you uninstall the dialer from a phone?
    its a smartphone these apps are needed unless you want to use it as a "dumb" phone
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    09-28-2014 04:09 AM
  23. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    Hahah you ask me if I'm a WP user. I'd you have actually owned a WP, you know that you can choose the app with which you want to open a specific file. Open the files app, or download any content from the web. Open the file. Then
    Open the files app, or download any content through IE. Then,
    1) for XML files, it asks me whether to open in IE or UC Browser.
    2) for music files, asks me whether to play in mix radio, Xbox music or moliplayer pro.
    3) for videos,asks me whether to open in Xbox videos or moliplayer pro.
    4) for photos, asks me whether to open in Lumia creative studio, Nokia camera, photo hub, Lumia selfie or 4blend HDR.
    5) for PDF files,asks me whether to open on PDF reader or Adobe reader.
    6) and other n no. Of examples......

    First buy a WP before commenting here.

    You can't uninstall Google drive, Google play music, etc in Android phones to. Also MS has a generic email app, whereas Google has a Gmail app and a generic app. Why both? I don't see Google giving flexibly in this area. There is no games hub in Android, as compared to WP. The sole purpose of the games hub was to have a single places for all your games, not Xbox promotion. Same goes for the music and video app, unlike Google.

    What flexibility does Google offer over MS? I'm curious.
    plus google drive is a pain to use,one drive is much better
    gdrive doesnt even allow you to download multiple stuff from the website
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    09-28-2014 04:10 AM
  24. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    No matter how many times you keep saying that, it won't be true. Educate yourself.

    As for Google services being sub-par, it's amazing that they have so many users, isn't it?
    i dont think youve used anything other than google services or you'd have agreed with the rest of us

    as for your "so many users" comment
    there are tonnes of people with a ford,suzuki etc but does that make rolls royce,ferrari,jaguar owners fools?
    irony much
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    09-28-2014 04:11 AM
  25. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    MS only restricts Default browser useage... Nothing else... You can even set Google as the search engine on IE... No force to use Bing on IE... N we get only OneDrive, OneNote n maps preinstalled, which would have been the case even 3 years back... Coz phones have always promoted Cloud Storage, Navigation and notes apps...
    Look at Google... You get Newstand, Movies, Books, Music, Hangouts, G+, apart from gDrive, Notes and GMaps... They even want to force their News reader n Books reader on you... N now they will Double this List of apps...
    Actually you can choose the browser too. When I opened an XML file via the files app, it asked me whether I want to open on IE,UCBrowser or Opera Mini.
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    09-28-2014 04:12 AM
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