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  1. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    This is how iPhone owners justify their purchase. They obviously became delusional just to justify their decision. iPhone 6 better camera? Wait for iPhone 12...... Maybe it happens. LmAO ....
    by then the Lumia 12020 will have released with an even better camera :D :P
    and still people will assume the iphone 6 is better than L12020 :D
    10-12-2014 05:04 AM
  2. psoham777's Avatar
    This is how iPhone owners justify their purchase. They obviously became delusional just to justify their decision. iPhone 6 better camera? Wait for iPhone 12...... Maybe it happens. LmAO 😂....
    When iPhone 12 would arrive, you would've already got a 100mp Lumia phone or even better.

    by then the Lumia 12020 will have released with an even better camera :D :P
    and still people will assume the iphone 6 is better than L12020 :D
    If iPhone 6 has a very good 8 mp camera, I might say that my 1320's camera is also very good, it doesn't have Optical image stabilization, but has smart stabilization. I can now blindly say that my 5mp camera is better. Also 5mp is more comparable to 8mp, rather than comparing 8mp with 41mp. Same goes with other Lumia phones too. Lol
    Last edited by Guytronic; 10-12-2014 at 07:36 PM.
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    10-12-2014 05:04 AM
  3. salmanahmad's Avatar
    Oh this thread's still running?

    Anyways what I am going to say having observed many of the responses you guys have given, is that many of you do not know much about photography. No offence but you need to read up more on it.

    I'll admit that my knowledge on photography isn't complete either. But many of you keep going on to say the same thing, MEGAPIXELS* MEGAPIXELS* on and on...

    Simply put if megapixels we're everything wouldn't that mean the Lumia 925 and iPhone 5S/iPhone 6 have the same type of results? In short, they don't. iPhone flat out beats it.

    The OP should have specified that "he" considered the iPhone the best cameraphone for him, and not say it was universal.

    But from the points you have read from the OP's post you can at least conclude that the iPhone is the best cameraphone for the majority of people, while 1020 would be for the enthusiasts.

    Simply put the way people take photos is that they go someplace, take out a phone and take a few photos in a few seconds of themselves. They just need a camera that works, and works fast and accurately. Not one which can either screw up your shot or make it look great depending on how fortunate you are with the software.

    Also RAW shooting is something which enthusiasts would do, not the general population that buys a phone for photography.

    The 1020 has a great camera, no doubt. But read some comparisons and on "Auto" mode, the iPhone usually beats it in most real life conditions such as portrait shooting because of more natural colours.

    As far as those people here who say that their 1320 is comparable or any other, simply put it isn't. Apple's DIS is on a whole new level, often being compared with true OIS especially in video, all things aside the iPhone does beat most(if not all) 8 MP and below Windows Phones, anything above that is debatable and based on preferences.

    Also some of you need to learn the difference between an iPhone 5 and 5S, also the difference between traditional LED flashes, dual LED and Apple(and HTC) amber and LED flashes.

    In short, there is no right answer to which smartphone is better for photography, it depends on your preferences.
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    10-12-2014 07:02 AM
  4. Steve Adams's Avatar
    Oh this thread's still running?

    Anyways what I am going to say having observed many of the responses you guys have given, is that many of you do not know much about photography. No offence but you need to read up more on it.

    I'll admit that my knowledge on photography isn't complete either. But many of you keep going on to say the same thing, MEGAPIXELS* MEGAPIXELS* on and on...

    Simply put if megapixels we're everything wouldn't that mean the Lumia 925 and iPhone 5S/iPhone 6 have the same type of results? In short, they don't. iPhone flat out beats it.

    The OP should have specified that "he" considered the iPhone the best cameraphone for him, and not say it was universal.

    But from the points you have read from the OP's post you can at least conclude that the iPhone is the best cameraphone for the majority of people, while 1020 would be for the enthusiasts.

    Simply put the way people take photos is that they go someplace, take out a phone and take a few photos in a few seconds of themselves. They just need a camera that works, and works fast and accurately. Not one which can either screw up your shot or make it look great depending on how fortunate you are with the software.

    Also RAW shooting is something which enthusiasts would do, not the general population that buys a phone for photography.

    The 1020 has a great camera, no doubt. But read some comparisons and on "Auto" mode, the iPhone usually beats it in most real life conditions such as portrait shooting because of more natural colours.

    As far as those people here who say that their 1320 is comparable or any other, simply put it isn't. Apple's DIS is on a whole new level, often being compared with true OIS especially in video, all things aside the iPhone does beat most(if not all) 8 MP and below Windows Phones, anything above that is debatable and based on preferences.

    Also some of you need to learn the difference between an iPhone 5 and 5S, also the difference between traditional LED flashes, dual LED and Apple(and HTC) amber and LED flashes.

    In short, there is no right answer to which smartphone is better for photography, it depends on your preferences.
    I know the difference in LED, DUAL LED, amber. and neither beats the xenon flash in the 1020. I know the difference between the 5 and 5s, I guess people who don't use windows phones are DENSE or something considering its common knowledge when I say the iphone 5 has a fingerprint scanner I mean the 5s. What do I expect, I should know better. I am not just spouting mp's, I am spouting real world results. No specs, or numbers. Pure results are the 1020 and also the 1520 etc take, make and output MUCH better photos than anything that has come from the rotten fruit or the little green robot. SIMPLE. RESULTS DON'T LIE.

    I have yet to see photos from any other phone that compare to the pureview. unfortunately the isheep have so much wool or whatever pulled over their eyes by the so called revolutionary features from the iphone....(great marketing and kool-aid drinking), they cannot see the forest for the trees.

    All they see, hear and read, is what apple says which is gospel supposedly.
    10-12-2014 07:45 AM
  5. amrut_m's Avatar
    7-8 People out of 10 who mite tend to BUY 1020 will be photo enthusiasts.
    Normal person would'nt want a gigantic camera on the phone.
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    10-12-2014 08:02 AM
  6. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    Oh this thread's still running?

    Anyways what I am going to say having observed many of the responses you guys have given, is that many of you do not know much about photography. No offence but you need to read up more on it.

    I'll admit that my knowledge on photography isn't complete either. But many of you keep going on to say the same thing, MEGAPIXELS* MEGAPIXELS* on and on...

    Simply put if megapixels we're everything wouldn't that mean the Lumia 925 and iPhone 5S/iPhone 6 have the same type of results? In short, they don't. iPhone flat out beats it.

    The OP should have specified that "he" considered the iPhone the best cameraphone for him, and not say it was universal.

    But from the points you have read from the OP's post you can at least conclude that the iPhone is the best cameraphone for the majority of people, while 1020 would be for the enthusiasts.

    Simply put the way people take photos is that they go someplace, take out a phone and take a few photos in a few seconds of themselves. They just need a camera that works, and works fast and accurately. Not one which can either screw up your shot or make it look great depending on how fortunate you are with the software.

    Also RAW shooting is something which enthusiasts would do, not the general population that buys a phone for photography.

    The 1020 has a great camera, no doubt. But read some comparisons and on "Auto" mode, the iPhone usually beats it in most real life conditions such as portrait shooting because of more natural colours.

    As far as those people here who say that their 1320 is comparable or any other, simply put it isn't. Apple's DIS is on a whole new level, often being compared with true OIS especially in video, all things aside the iPhone does beat most(if not all) 8 MP and below Windows Phones, anything above that is debatable and based on preferences.

    Also some of you need to learn the difference between an iPhone 5 and 5S, also the difference between traditional LED flashes, dual LED and Apple(and HTC) amber and LED flashes.

    In short, there is no right answer to which smartphone is better for photography, it depends on your preferences.
    you really hate windows phone and cannot give credit where due , can you?
    next youll say the Retina display isnt a traditional amoled and how it is actually better than my 820 display(820 display is one of the best ive ever seen-especially the crisp blacks and vivid colours)

    about megapixels,in this case they do matter because kids like you dont know how the Pureview tech works-
    its a 41mp sensor which takes a 5mp shot+34/38mp shots
    the 5mp is actually a downscaled 41mp shot so it beats ANY camera phone in the market even if iphone gets more megapixels

    its very easy to read about photography off the internet,but if you have it in your degree course,you actually understand and analize with the knowledge which is why your megapixel anaolgy is invalid here

    though its true for other lumias- 720s 6.7mp can beat 90% of 8mp cameras found on other phones and is the best lowlight phone yet,often beating its other siblings in low light(only low light,not overall etc)
    820/920s 8.7mp beats most 13mp cameras with ease
    the 830s 10mp beats xperias 20mp exmor sensor
    the 1520/930s 20mp is the best overall camera sensor
    the 1020 is the best sensor but most prefer the more balanced 20mp sensor found on the 930/1520

    you seem to forget about the wide range of other lumias such as the 1520,930,830,730,720,820,920 etc with carl zeiss lens and sensors based off the pureview sensor to provide a balanced sensor overall

    i can compare an iphone 4 with a 730 tommorow and forget all about the newer iphones , if the iphone 6 can be compared with the 1020 forgetting the other lumias
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    10-12-2014 09:32 AM
  7. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    7-8 People out of 10 who mite tend to BUY 1020 will be photo enthusiasts.
    Normal person would'nt want a gigantic camera on the phone.
    which is exactly why the galaxy zoom is even more ridiculous!! :D
    though personally i myself dont like the 1020 ,nexus 5 and N8s bulging sensors as its easier to damage
    10-12-2014 09:33 AM
  8. psoham777's Avatar
    Oh this thread's still running?

    Anyways what I am going to say having observed many of the responses you guys have given, is that many of you do not know much about photography. No offence but you need to read up more on it.

    I'll admit that my knowledge on photography isn't complete either. But many of you keep going on to say the same thing, MEGAPIXELS* MEGAPIXELS* on and on...

    Simply put if megapixels we're everything wouldn't that mean the Lumia 925 and iPhone 5S/iPhone 6 have the same type of results? In short, they don't. iPhone flat out beats it.

    The OP should have specified that "he" considered the iPhone the best cameraphone for him, and not say it was universal.

    But from the points you have read from the OP's post you can at least conclude that the iPhone is the best cameraphone for the majority of people, while 1020 would be for the enthusiasts.

    Simply put the way people take photos is that they go someplace, take out a phone and take a few photos in a few seconds of themselves. They just need a camera that works, and works fast and accurately. Not one which can either screw up your shot or make it look great depending on how fortunate you are with the software.

    Also RAW shooting is something which enthusiasts would do, not the general population that buys a phone for photography.

    The 1020 has a great camera, no doubt. But read some comparisons and on "Auto" mode, the iPhone usually beats it in most real life conditions such as portrait shooting because of more natural colours.

    As far as those people here who say that their 1320 is comparable or any other, simply put it isn't. Apple's DIS is on a whole new level, often being compared with true OIS especially in video, all things aside the iPhone does beat most(if not all) 8 MP and below Windows Phones, anything above that is debatable and based on preferences.

    Also some of you need to learn the difference between an iPhone 5 and 5S, also the difference between traditional LED flashes, dual LED and Apple(and HTC) amber and LED flashes.

    In short, there is no right answer to which smartphone is better for photography, it depends on your preferences.
    So you want this thread closed too?
    1020 might be for enthusiasts, but that doesn't change the fact that it still has the best camera in a smartphone. As far as taking quick shots, let denim roll out to 1020. If iPhone had more natural colours than 1020, wouldn't iPhones camera be better? Did you forget about the zooming? If iPhone has less zooming, it still takes good quality photos, right? Also you don't know the differences between a xenon flash & dual led flash, so no point arguing with you. If a WP has the best camera, you'll say its for enthusiasts, or it takes more time taking pictures, how much more time, how many minutes/hours more? If someone doesn't have a great knowledge on photography he still can take best photos without adjustments in 1020. Megapixels doesn't matter right, so why are all the companies coming up with a higher megapixels in a phone? Megapixels primarily matter in a phone, then comes the rest of the things like sensor, sensitivity of a camera. But you won't get it as you are a WP hater, if WP has something good/better than other OSes, you are always there to bash WP.
    10-12-2014 10:04 AM
  9. someone2639's Avatar
    It doesn't matter how much sensor size you have, it's the manual controls.
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    10-12-2014 10:08 AM
  10. Chris_Germany's Avatar
    Lets pause this discussion until Lumia Camera is released. That should improve everything.
    10-12-2014 10:30 AM
  11. JamesPTao's Avatar
    It doesn't matter how much sensor size you have, it's the manual controls.
    Sensor size makes a big difference on any camera always will. I like manual controls too though.
    10-12-2014 11:51 AM
  12. mjrtoo's Avatar
    It doesn't matter how much sensor size you have, it's the manual controls.
    If pixels don't matter, and sensor sizes don't matter, then what matters? Surely you're not saying the iPhone or Lumia takes better pictures than a full frame, APS-c, or even a 4/3 chip. I think the 1020 can compete in image quality of a lower end DSLR, but certainly not if you have high end glass and a competent photographer.
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    10-12-2014 12:08 PM
  13. someone2639's Avatar
    Well, manual controls can still give better photos. That's how I think of it until I see a better camera phone.
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    10-12-2014 12:13 PM
  14. mjrtoo's Avatar
    Well, manual controls can still give better photos. That's how I think of it until I see a better camera phone.
    Agreed, a lot of people are judging which camera is better using full auto mode and flash, which certainly doesn't tell the tale of pure image quality.
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    10-12-2014 12:19 PM
  15. downup's Avatar
    Didn't read all of our but I think that iPhones screen maybe slow better colors then Lumia. But oh a computer Lumia 1020 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>~~>> iPhone
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    10-12-2014 12:20 PM
  16. Sourav Ghatak's Avatar
    Can any one operate two phones together to take photo ..that too big phones like iphone 6 n 1020?? #just asking
    Only Hagrid of Harry Potter movie series can do this ... lol ...
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    10-12-2014 12:34 PM
  17. Jaripi's Avatar
    About iPhone 6 photo colors, well, they are not perfect, even somebody is telling that they are ...

    The iPhone 6 Camera Has a Big Problem: iOS 8
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    10-12-2014 01:04 PM
  18. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    About iPhone 6 photo colors, well, they are not perfect, even somebody is telling that they are ...

    The iPhone 6 Camera Has a Big Problem: iOS 8
    ^people will try and justify their iphone purchase by putting across points which make no sense
    even the shutter speed thing was still ok,
    image quality etc is >>>>>>>>>>>>>iphone
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    10-12-2014 02:58 PM
  19. Jazmac's Avatar
    Ok, we are pushing 8 pages of this and I didn't see the OP's Iphone 6 photos. Did I just miss them or were we duped into discussing the 1020 again?
    10-12-2014 03:10 PM
  20. Jaripi's Avatar
    ^people will try and justify their iphone purchase by putting across points which make no sense
    even the shutter speed thing was still ok,
    image quality etc is >>>>>>>>>>>>>iphone
    I am wondering DxO review: "Apple set gold standard for smartphone image quality" - it seems that it did not do that (not perfect, either natural colors) ....
    10-12-2014 03:13 PM
  21. Steve Adams's Avatar
    I am wondering DxO review: "Apple set gold standard for smartphone image quality" - it seems that it did not do that (not perfect, either natural colors) ....
    Dxo is just like any other site. Paid off by the hype machine.
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    10-12-2014 03:30 PM
  22. psoham777's Avatar
    Even after repeatedly saying that iPhone 6 wasn't even able to beat icon/930 in camera tests, some people still won't get it.
    I'm just waiting for the camera tests of 830vs iPhone 6. I'm pretty sure denim has a lot of camera improvements & also it has increased the speed of taking photos.
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    10-12-2014 11:11 PM
  23. BatteryLife's Avatar
    Well, manual controls can still give better photos. That's how I think of it until I see a better camera phone.
    So you think only Lumias have manual controls?
    10-13-2014 01:52 AM
  24. amrut_m's Avatar
    which is exactly why the galaxy zoom is even more ridiculous!! :D
    though personally i myself dont like the 1020 ,nexus 5 and N8s bulging sensors as its easier to damage
    The day I bought 1020, friends and collegues were in same mind that it will damage the camera lens.
    But after a year, no covers, no cases, no screen guards. My phone still looks like new, touchwood. I bet iPhone would'nt be the same after how i use the phone. NOKIA BUILD QUALITY ROCKS.
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    10-13-2014 02:16 AM
  25. amrut_m's Avatar
    So you think only Lumias have manual controls?
    It was 1020 which brought the Manual Controls trend in Phones, Now everyone seem to be following it.
    (Actually it was Pro Shot which was introduced for 920 which was the 1st App with manual controls but the OEM app was PRO CAM )
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    10-13-2014 02:19 AM
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