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  1. psoham777's Avatar

    Exactly, I thought that everyone knew that HTC one m8(WP) had a better battery life than Android version. Guess I was wrong. 10% extra battery life cannot be considered too small.
    Karthik Naik likes this.
    11-13-2014 07:27 AM
  2. D M C's Avatar
    Do you know word "REVIEW"
    I am talking about the review not the wrong spread rumor.
    Show me a review.
    because in real test it doesn't show any battery efficiency over Android.

    Even Mobile Nation hadn't post this wrong rumor.
    11-13-2014 07:47 AM
  3. D M C's Avatar
    On WP, restrictions are very severe for background agents. The apps that do have such agents are very lightweight/weak, e.g. Skype. WP doesn't have that bunch of Google espionage services always on. The UI is very light and even a weak GPU can handle it nicely. Apps are run natively on the hardware and no VM is being run. All this means plenty of battery is saved.
    Even with that their is only one WP(L1520) which have good nope best battery back-up.(and the worst battery back up is also a Windows Phone)

    What happens to others if WP is so much optimized?


    Battery life tests - GSMArena.com
    11-13-2014 07:54 AM
  4. thesachd's Avatar
    I just flashed Android 5.0, the final build, on my device.

    And I can confidentially say that this is better than anything I've ever come across on Windows Phone.

    And this is purely subjective, because nothing can please everyone.

    To start off their we're things that Windows Phone could do better once, maybe it was the camera features or maybe the project my screen app, or maybe the universal Metro UI. But all that has been put in the dust by Lollipop.

    First of all Android 5.0 fully supports control over shutter speed, exposure bracketing, RAW image capture, manual focus, and a hell lot more.

    You can record your screen through many apps on the Play Store, no PC or root needed.

    I can also reiterate the fact that Material Design is very very different and way more elegant than Metro UI. The new animations and applications just goes to show all that.

    Moving onto the extra stuff, the power toggles are way better than Windows Phone. The lock screen, the lock screen PIN layout, the face unlock, the lock screen notifications and notifications in general are miles ahead of Windows Phone.

    Multitasking is also way more fluid and easy and fast.

    Multi user profiles and screen pinning are extremely handy additions, even the small stuff like the settings app seems to look way better and more arranged than Windows Phone. The battery stats are also way better, the power saver mode is also more effective than the Windows Phone one.

    Anyone that says that this update is simply a launcher change is full of crap. It's a bigger overhaul than Windows Phone has ever received.
    prasath1234 likes this.
    11-13-2014 09:10 AM
  5. iamakii's Avatar
    It looks so clean, minimalist and flat. If Windows 10 flops, I'm ready to jump ship to this awesome looking OS.
    thesachd likes this.
    11-13-2014 09:11 AM
  6. thesachd's Avatar
    And to those of you that say that Android is an extremely power hungry OS and that it won't run properly on dual core.

    Android may have been power hungry at some time in it's past, no longer does that hold true.

    The power saver mode on my Nexus 5 under clocks the CPU to 700 - 900 MHz(tested with CPU stats) and the phone also hesitates to activate the fourth core. But even despite this under clock on Lollipop my phone runs decently smooth(not flawless but still I'm trying to make a point).

    And those of you that emphasize way too much on how core count matters and Android doesn't run on dual core, that is also untrue. The Nexus 9, which is a flagship device, came out with a dual core processor just recently and it's pretty fast.

    So please most complaints that people have had with Android in the past are being resolved, and any chance that Windows Phone once had of success is slowly fading away...

    And even Microsoft knows this: http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/13/7...rs-in-the-cold
    11-13-2014 09:18 AM
  7. thesachd's Avatar
    whats the use of "optimised android updates" if 90% of android 4.0 devices never got updates and never will even unnofficially
    If bringing in percentages is your thing.

    25% of Android devices run KitKat, which is the most recent stable version as per statistics.

    Those 25% outnumber the total number of WP users out there.

    Basically there are more phones running KitKat than there are active Windows Phones out there.

    Really puts that into perspective, don't it?

    yeah right thats why i get 2 full days on my 720 while my nexus 5 and z10 struggle to keep even a day
    they all have 2000mah batteries fyi with not many apps and latest updates
    Z10 is a BlackBerry device, again you can't refrain from bringing in every single device known to man kind whether it is relevant or not.

    The Nexus 5 is a budget phone with flagship specifications, and in that endeavour there are things that need to be sacrificed.

    I actually thought you we're a knowledgeable person, but if you we're you would know that:

    - The Lumia 720 powers way less pixels, it's not a 1080 panel like the Nexus.

    - The 720 also has a much smaller screen.

    - The 720 also has a much weaker CPU and GPU.

    That's not a fair comparison in the least, and if you knew even a slight bit about phones you would know that.
    D M C likes this.
    11-13-2014 09:26 AM
  8. Wam1q's Avatar
    And to those of you that say that Android is an extremely power hungry OS and that it won't run properly on dual core.

    Android may have been power hungry at some time in it's past, no longer does that hold true.

    The power saver mode on my Nexus 5 under clocks the CPU to 700 - 900 MHz(tested with CPU stats) and the phone also hesitates to activate the fourth core. But even despite this under clock on Lollipop my phone runs decently smooth(not flawless but still I'm trying to make a point).

    And those of you that emphasize way too much on how core count matters and Android doesn't run on dual core, that is also untrue. The Nexus 9, which is a flagship device, came out with a dual core processor just recently and it's pretty fast.

    So please most complaints that people have had with Android in the past are being resolved, and any chance that Windows Phone once had of success is slowly fading away...

    And even Microsoft knows this: http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/13/7...rs-in-the-cold
    Oh yes, Android is very efficient...
    Why do the year-old Lumia 1520 and Lumia 930 have better hardware performance compared to other Android flagships?
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/nok...-gpu-test.html
    Karthik Naik and psoham777 like this.
    11-13-2014 10:53 AM
  9. jonnaver's Avatar
    ^nice irony


    ^^sigh i was expecting a misinformed reply like this
    ironic how exagerated and wrong your post is


    this post is completely misinformed

    the hate against windows phone is strong and very very misinformed in this thread im sorry to say

    you sir are naive if you follow some of the most biased sites ever


    you are blind then if you really think that way im sorry to say
    The only thing I'm seeing in this thread is that the first line in most of your responses consists of some sort of credibility attack on the previous poster, followed by your own set of opinions, which don't appear to be any more informed than the ones you're accusing of being misinformed.
    If WP is indeed as successful vs the big 2 as you're arguing it is, then we the population of this planet would have made it so by voting with their wallets. However it appears to me that the people have spoken. Democracy in action.
    11-13-2014 11:06 AM
  10. thesachd's Avatar
    Oh yes, Android is very efficient...
    Why do the year-old Lumia 1520 and Lumia 930 have better hardware performance compared to other Android flagships?
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/nok...-gpu-test.html
    Hahahahahah.

    So Windows Phone won one GPU benchmark and that translates into real time performance? No it doesn't and frankly the test is flawed. Buuut....if you take time the time to check your information, you'll realize how wrong you are:

    1415898832442.jpg

    There are lots of Android devices above the 1520 in that department.

    Also I find benchmarks like Geekbench way more reliable, 3DMark is nice too but alas both apps aren't on Windows Phone, just like a million other apps that are also missing.

    There's also another benchmarking app that probably has the most accurate benchmarking ever, here's a video on it:

    But again, it's not on Windows Phone. So please don't bring benchmark applications into this, it's another place where you'll find Windows Phone lacks.

    But if you checked real time, developers spend more time coding and making better versions of their game for Android and it usually has better 2D and 3D graphics in games, despite whatever a benchmark says.

    Can't believe that after all else failed you brought in synthetic benchmarking. Nice.
    11-13-2014 12:21 PM
  11. Vaibhav Sundaresan's Avatar
    And to those of you that say that Android is an extremely power hungry OS and that it won't run properly on dual core.

    Android may have been power hungry at some time in it's past, no longer does that hold true.

    The power saver mode on my Nexus 5 under clocks the CPU to 700 - 900 MHz(tested with CPU stats) and the phone also hesitates to activate the fourth core. But even despite this under clock on Lollipop my phone runs decently smooth(not flawless but still I'm trying to make a point).

    And those of you that emphasize way too much on how core count matters and Android doesn't run on dual core, that is also untrue. The Nexus 9, which is a flagship device, came out with a dual core processor just recently and it's pretty fast.

    So please most complaints that people have had with Android in the past are being resolved, and any chance that Windows Phone once had of success is slowly fading away...

    And even Microsoft knows this: http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/13/7...rs-in-the-cold
    Please explain how the m8 Windows version has 12 hours more battery life than the android version? That is the most accurate comparison of them all, exactly same phone with different OS. So android is power and resource hungry.
    11-13-2014 12:48 PM
  12. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    Do you know word "REVIEW"
    I am talking about the review not the wrong spread rumor.
    Show me a review.
    because in real test it doesn't show any battery efficiency over Android.

    Even Mobile Nation hadn't post this wrong rumor.
    do you even open links or just use post quotes???
    11-13-2014 12:51 PM
  13. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    Even with that their is only one WP(L1520) which have good nope best battery back-up.(and the worst battery back up is also a Windows Phone)

    What happens to others if WP is so much optimized?


    Battery life tests - GSMArena.com
    thats not at all true,L1520 has excellent battery life infact its the 2nd best after the L720
    11-13-2014 12:52 PM
  14. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    If bringing in percentages is your thing.

    25% of Android devices run KitKat, which is the most recent stable version as per statistics.

    Those 25% outnumber the total number of WP users out there.

    Basically there are more phones running KitKat than there are active Windows Phones out there.

    Really puts that into perspective, don't it?



    Z10 is a BlackBerry device, again you can't refrain from bringing in every single device known to man kind whether it is relevant or not.

    The Nexus 5 is a budget phone with flagship specifications, and in that endeavour there are things that need to be sacrificed.

    I actually thought you we're a knowledgeable person, but if you we're you would know that:

    - The Lumia 720 powers way less pixels, it's not a 1080 panel like the Nexus.

    - The 720 also has a much smaller screen.

    - The 720 also has a much weaker CPU and GPU.

    That's not a fair comparison in the least, and if you knew even a slight bit about phones you would know that.
    keep telling yourself that and keep not reading stuff properly
    if it makes you feel better,be happy that way but it wont change the truth
    its just that you say Nexus 5 with android L is power efficient and changes clock speeds to low when not needed then go on to say the only reason L720 has good battery life is the "inferior" hardware
    you sir are delusional,the M8 proves the advantages of windows phone and you cant bear to accept credit for a non-android
    11-13-2014 12:56 PM
  15. thesachd's Avatar
    Please explain how the m8 Windows version has 12 hours more battery life than the android version? That is the most accurate comparison of them all, exactly same phone with different OS. So android is power and resource hungry.
    We'll since none of you seem to have the mental capacity to understand, I'll explain.

    There are several reasons for why the Android version consumers more battery, and Android itself doesn't have a lot to do with this as much as HTC itself does.

    The HTC One M8 for Android and Windows are described as perfect competitors for OSes, but they aren't.

    For starters DMC has posted credible info regarding how the M8 for Windows has less brightness on preset levels than the Android variant, take this into account because it matters a lot.

    Other than this the Android version features tons more lock screen gestures and shortcuts, this involves keeping either the proximity or gravity sensor active at all times, the Windows Phone version only keeps proximity active and doesn't support a fraction of the gestures of hardware shortcuts.

    Moving onto the homescreen the Blink feed app refreshes on Android every now and then, it's a content heavy application so it does consume data and battery.

    There's tons more info regarding this. But to keep this short HTC has baked more features into the Android variant, and they consume more power.

    The M8 for Windows is essentially an M8 with significantly less features from HTC's side and also less features than Android (because of Windows Phone).

    Oh and if the LED light takes any battery you could also add that, because the M8 for Windows doesn't support any such thing either.

    keep telling yourself that and keep not reading stuff properly
    if it makes you feel better,be happy that way but it wont change the truth
    its just that you say Nexus 5 with android L is power efficient and changes clock speeds to low when not needed then go on to say the only reason L720 has good battery life is the "inferior" hardware
    you sir are delusional,the M8 proves the advantages of windows phone and you cant bear to accept credit for a non-android
    Not just inferior hardware. If you knew the basics of mobile technology you would know how much of an impact a higher resolution display has.

    Also your statement about Android L is also completely wrong. Android(and almost every other OS released in 21st century) under clocks the CPU when not in use. But when you compare a Lumia 720 to a Nexus 5, the Nexus 5 has a lot more cores to power

    Quite an unfair comparison if you ask me. But obviously all amount of logical reason just passes by you.
    11-13-2014 01:30 PM
  16. D M C's Avatar
    do you even open links or just use post quotes???
    Yes I opened the link.
    But found nothing
    11-13-2014 01:35 PM
  17. thesachd's Avatar
    http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/13/7...droid-security

    The future doesn't seem too bright for Windows Phone, basically everything Windows Phone may had an upper hand in a few months back is now being dominated by Android and it's partner OEMs.
    11-13-2014 01:36 PM
  18. D M C's Avatar
    thats not at all true,L1520 has excellent battery life infact its the 2nd best after the L720
    Do you even read the comment?

    You might need to read my comment again.

    And L1520 is the best battery back up and L720 have just decent battery backup because of inferior or low hardware.
    11-13-2014 01:38 PM
  19. thesachd's Avatar
    Honestly I also don't understand how people say Windows Phone is faster. On near identical hardware Android always opens apps faster, scrolls faster and multitasks faster.

    Seriously if any of you have a Nexus 5 compare it with your 1520. You'll see how much faster the Nexus is.

    Samsung devices IMO are some of the only ones giving Android a bad name from a performance point of view, but pure unadulterated Android beats the crap out of WP.
    11-13-2014 02:19 PM
  20. Wam1q's Avatar
    Honestly I also don't understand how people say Windows Phone is faster. On near identical hardware Android always opens apps faster, scrolls faster and multitasks faster.

    Seriously if any of you have a Nexus 5 compare it with your 1520. You'll see how much faster the Nexus is.

    Samsung devices IMO are some of the only ones giving Android a bad name from a performance point of view, but pure unadulterated Android beats the crap out of WP.
    Talking about apps, that fluidity in opening and resuming apps on Android is because of proper optimisations and updates. Try running an app coded for Jellybean on Lollipop. Things would be different.

    Similarly, there are WP8.1 apps which open instantly and resume instantly. The app just needs to support that and the dev needs to optimise the code (which few WP devs do). That's nothing wrong with the OS. It is fast and fluid on all hardware. The few Loading... and Resuming... screens I see on my 1020 are limited to particular apps (Skype, Cortana, Lumia Camera, Xbox Games, etc.). Many other similar apps are fast and fluid. And the best part is that the OS itself is VERY fluid.

    Hell, my friend's Lumia 530 shows even lesser (almost no) Resuming... and Loading... screens even with crappy apps like Skype, Xbox Music, Xbox Games, etc. On his 530, Tetra lock screen has no lag, Xbox Games opens as fast as WP7/8.0 Games Hub, (compared Lumia 530 with Samsung Focus side-by-side) Cortana starts up instantly, etc. So that all means excellent optimisations which are absent even from my Lumia 1020 (which might be due to Developers' Preview on my phone, but still).
    Last edited by Wam1q; 11-13-2014 at 03:47 PM.
    11-13-2014 03:32 PM
  21. gapost's Avatar
    Talking about apps, that fluidity in opening and resuming apps on Android is because of proper optimisations and updates. Try running an app coded for Jellybean on Lollipop. Things would be different.
    Similarly, there are WP8.1 apps which open instantly and resume instantly. The app just needs to support that and the dev needs to optimise the code (which few WP devs do). That's nothing wrong with the OS. It is fast and fluid on all hardware.
    One of the biggest complaints with WP is the camera speed. It's amazing how fast the camera is on a lot of Androids, compared to WP, and I'm sure it will be even better on Lolipop.
    11-13-2014 03:40 PM
  22. Wam1q's Avatar
    One of the biggest complaints with WP is the camera speed. It's amazing how fast the camera is on a lot of Androids, compared to WP, and I'm sure it will be even better on Lolipop.
    Tried the Camera360 Pro Beta app? It is as fast as the iOS camera. Ever tried the native MS Camera? It is fast enough and launches with the camera button. Tried Camera 1020 app from the Store? It is as fast as MS Camera and takes high-res pictures, too. Heard about Lumia Camera v5? It is going to be wicked fast on newer hardware.
    There are plenty of alternatives if you think Lumia Camera pre-v5 is slow.
    Last edited by Wam1q; 11-13-2014 at 04:04 PM.
    11-13-2014 03:51 PM
  23. fatclue_98's Avatar
    The "My AT&T" app opens ****-poor slow on any platform. It's tolerable on WP and just bearable Android 4.2 and above.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    11-13-2014 04:09 PM
  24. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    The "My AT&T" app opens ****-poor slow on any platform. It's tolerable on WP and just bearable Android 4.2 and above.

    Even the AT&T website is slow on my desktop PC in any browser. I have 50/5 MB internet, but you'd think I had dialup if I'm using att.com.
    11-13-2014 08:59 PM
  25. TechAbstract's Avatar
    Hahahahahah.

    So Windows Phone won one GPU benchmark and that translates into real time performance? No it doesn't and frankly the test is flawed. Buuut....if you take time the time to check your information, you'll realize how wrong you are:
    Actually with the same GPU. Windows Phone is faster. Snapdragon 800 beating a Snapdragon 801 that is higher clocked. Of course Adreno 420 is going to be faster than Adreno 330.
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    11-13-2014 10:20 PM
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