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  1. Wam1q's Avatar
    Really? Does developers preview allow you to download apps/games from unknown sources? My friend has jailbreaked his 925, he's able to download apps/games that are not available in the store, does DP allow that? Then how's rooting= DP?
    Developer unlocking allows that.
    11-16-2014 10:52 AM
  2. link68759's Avatar
    If you are looking for the most top notch specifications you'll always see Android killing it.

    The 1520 is not a bad device by any means, but if your family does concert to Android I would recommend getting a Nexus 6. It offers much more in a much more pocket friendly price.

    Oh and the Nexus 6 won't lag like most people here would make you believe. Samsung devices might, but the rest quality Android devices are safe.


    A lot of people have already (rightfully) dismissed OP's notion that because the 1520 is several months old, it is bad. WP runs efficiently, so specs nearly don't matter at all.



    The newest android devices will be stuffed full of the newest hardware and they will run the version of android they ship with quite well. But every update of Android adds bloat. Very soon your nexus 6 will be quite laggy, and others will be saying, "oh, sure that old thing lags, but if you get the latest Samsung flagship android which is made of quality hardware, it won't lag!"



    Meanwhile, the 1520 will still be as fast as it was the day it launched.
    11-16-2014 11:06 AM
  3. thesachd's Avatar
    A lot of people have already (rightfully) dismissed OP's notion that because the 1520 is several months old, it is bad. WP runs efficiently, so specs nearly don't matter at all.



    The newest android devices will be stuffed full of the newest hardware and they will run the version of android they ship with quite well. But every update of Android adds bloat. Very soon your nexus 6 will be quite laggy, and others will be saying, "oh, sure that old thing lags, but if you get the latest Samsung flagship android which is made of quality hardware, it won't lag!"



    Meanwhile, the 1520 will still be as fast as it was the day it launched.
    Efficiently or not, there are things the Nexus can do which the 1520 can't because of the newer specifications. For one thing it supports voice commands even when the phone is off.

    It has a 2K display coupled with a Snapdragon 805 processor which allows for faster shot processing and tons of other improvements, and despite graphics already being better on Android the Adreno 420 will also provide a massive boost in graphics quality and speed.

    And Android doesn't experience "resuming" and usually gets apps to open up and multitask faster than Windows Phone but still the Nexus 6 will be able to multitask even better because of 3GB RAM.

    And lastly your notion about every Android update adds bloat, that is false. Every Android update released in the past few years focuses entirely on making performance better, and this year with 5.0 they have absolutely killed it. It's so smooth and silky, with very few things that they need to iron out, 4.4 was also a major step up in performance from 4.3 and previous versions of Android have done the same.

    Also about the bloatware, Android 5.0 actually makes bloatware less of an issue: http://bgr.com/2014/10/29/android-5-0-lollipop-feature/

    Also go ask anyone still rocking a Nexus 4 how their phone is running two years later on Android 5.0 and I'm sure they'll tell you how much faster it has gotten compared to the original 4.2

    Please for gods sakes educate yourself before spewing out what you consider "facts".
    11-16-2014 12:42 PM
  4. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    Developer unlocking allows that.
    but not DP
    11-16-2014 01:25 PM
  5. Wam1q's Avatar
    Efficiently or not, there are things the Nexus can do which the 1520 can't because of the newer specifications. For one thing it supports voice commands even when the phone is off.

    It has a 2K display coupled with a Snapdragon 805 processor which allows for faster shot processing and tons of other improvements, and despite graphics already being better on Android the Adreno 420 will also provide a massive boost in graphics quality and speed.

    And Android doesn't experience "resuming" and usually gets apps to open up and multitask faster than Windows Phone but still the Nexus 6 will be able to multitask even better because of 3GB RAM.

    Please for gods sakes educate yourself before spewing out what you consider "facts".
    FHD display at 6" is sharp and consumes lesser battery and resources than 2K. That's an advantage to the 1520, I guess.

    Lumia Denim with the updated Lumia Camera (v5) will get all the good Camera-centric features to the 1520 soon (along with passive listening--Hey Cortana). And resuming occurs in 8.0-specific apps. 8.1-optimised apps don't have that issue.

    Get your own facts correct, too.
    Last edited by Wam1q; 11-16-2014 at 01:56 PM.
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    11-16-2014 01:33 PM
  6. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    Efficiently or not, there are things the Nexus can do which the 1520 can't because of the newer specifications. For one thing it supports voice commands even when the phone is off.

    It has a 2K display coupled with a Snapdragon 805 processor which allows for faster shot processing and tons of other improvements, and despite graphics already being better on Android the Adreno 420 will also provide a massive boost in graphics quality and speed.

    And Android doesn't experience "resuming" and usually gets apps to open up and multitask faster than Windows Phone but still the Nexus 6 will be able to multitask even better because of 3GB RAM.

    And lastly your notion about every Android update adds bloat, that is false. Every Android update released in the past few years focuses entirely on making performance better, and this year with 5.0 they have absolutely killed it. It's so smooth and silky, with very few things that they need to iron out, 4.4 was also a major step up in performance from 4.3 and previous versions of Android have done the same.

    Also about the bloatware, Android 5.0 actually makes bloatware less of an issue: Android 5.0 Lollipop feature: Play Auto Installs bloatware removal | BGR

    Also go ask anyone still rocking a Nexus 4 how their phone is running two years later on Android 5.0 and I'm sure they'll tell you how much faster it has gotten compared to the original 4.2

    Please for gods sakes educate yourself before spewing out what you consider "facts".
    what???? dude i just saw this and decided to "educate" you
    all snapdragon 800 Lumias are getting cortana voice activation when the display is on standby/off
    if im not mistaken the Nexus 5 wouldnt be getting "ok google" voice activation when the display is off,itll only work when the display is on
    also the "resuming" screen ensures your battery life is top notch
    i have yet to see an android device which lasts a day of heavy usage and yet to see a windows phone which dies out in less than a day
    also the "high and mighty" display wont make sense on a screen that small,before you "judge" this, the human eye only sees upto a certain resolution so anything above that is wasted and on a 6 inch screen,its even a bigger waste

    theoretically if you want to make the best of the higher resolution of say a 4k laptop or a 2k 6 inch screen,the only way is to keep it very far away from yourself
    which on a phone display is wasted and is still plausable on a laptop screen where the extra pixels are often needed by film editors etc
    android 5.0 doesnt have bloat(yet) because only the stock android devices have got updates right now,so id expect bloat when more devices get updates
    it also depends on how one defines bloat,id define bloat as some unneccessary google apps such as hangouts which is a pathetic and unreliable app and alot of smses just disappear within a few hours etc

    also since you like to feel android is not bloated
    its actually the only phone OS with bloat,unnecessary resource usage,only OS with antivirus,only OS which needs high specs to run etc etc
    11-16-2014 01:34 PM
  7. D M C's Avatar
    what???? dude i just saw this and decided to "educate" you
    all snapdragon 800 Lumias are getting cortana voice activation when the display is on standby/off
    if im not mistaken the Nexus 5 wouldnt be getting "ok google" voice activation when the display is off,itll only work when the display is on
    also the "resuming" screen ensures your battery life is top notch
    i have yet to see an android device which lasts a day of heavy usage and yet to see a windows phone which dies out in less than a day
    also the "high and mighty" display wont make sense on a screen that small,before you "judge" this, the human eye only sees upto a certain resolution so anything above that is wasted and on a 6 inch screen,its even a bigger waste
    android 5.0 doesnt have bloat(yet) because only the stock android devices have got updates right now,so id expect bloat when more devices get updates
    it also depends on how one defines bloat,id define bloat as some unneccessary google apps such as hangouts which is a pathetic and unreliable app and alot of smses just disappear within a few hours etc

    also since you like to feel android is not bloated
    its actually the only phone OS with bloat,unnecessary resource usage,only OS with antivirus,only OS which needs high specs to run etc etc
    Ok Google available to all kitkat devices even moto g.(unlike wp their is no restrictions like sd800 processor's)

    TTheir are tones of android devices which can last a day.EExample Sony z3 compact
    And almost every wp phone dies within a day.Take l620 .
    Dies within 2hrs of 3g browsing.

    BUt again you are hater and hater doesn't make any logical comments.All you say about Android are lies but now you are saying lies about wp too.
    11-16-2014 01:41 PM
  8. somanialok's Avatar
    One of the feature i think windows should have is plug and play pendrives....which makes android far more usable.. Since my Lumia 925 doesnt have external memory slot, i really need this os option
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    11-16-2014 01:57 PM
  9. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    Ok Google available to all kitkat devices even moto g.(unlike wp their is no restrictions like sd800 processor's)

    TTheir are tones of android devices which can last a day.EExample Sony z3 compact
    And almost every wp phone dies within a day.Take l620 .
    Dies within 2hrs of 3g browsing.

    BUt again you are hater and hater doesn't make any logical comments.All you say about Android are lies but now you are saying lies about wp too.
    awwwwww looks like some high and mighty android user cant accept facts

    heres a fun paragraph-
    "One hardware constraint I’ve run into is that the Snapdragon 800 in last year’s phone isn’t capable of the “OK Google” always listening function. You actually can enable it in the Google Now settings but it only works when the phone’s display is on"

    from this link
    https://gigaom.com/2014/11/13/first-...e-old-nexus-5/

    wait if all SD800 lumias will get cortana always listening functionality even when the display is off,why cant the mighty Nexus 5 running the most powerful android L on the same SD800 get it

    also my ex had a Lumia 620 it easy lasted her over a day,she used it purely for web browsing,music,calls,whatsapp , 6snap and instagram

    too bad people cant accept the flaws of android which are all pros of windows phone
    11-16-2014 02:01 PM
  10. Wam1q's Avatar
    Ok Google available to all kitkat devices even moto g.(unlike wp their is no restrictions like sd800 processor's)

    TTheir are tones of android devices which can last a day.EExample Sony z3 compact
    And almost every wp phone dies within a day.Take l620 .
    Dies within 2hrs of 3g browsing.

    BUt again you are hater and hater doesn't make any logical comments.All you say about Android are lies but now you are saying lies about wp too.
    Moto G gets OK Google because it has a special voice coprocessor. Snapdragon 8xx already has the coprocessor built-in. No other Lumia devices have the coprocessor except Lumia 930/1520. If a cheap Lumia had that coprocessor, even that WP device could get Hey Cortana. It is hardware dependent. Not all KitKat devices have OK Google, either.

    You took the specific example of a tiny phone with a tiny battery to compare with a giant phone with an enormous battery. Fair caparison... I beg to differ. I have a Lumia 1020 and get a full day out of it with moderate use. I got my Android friend to try WP by getting him a Lumia 530. The next week the first thing he said was that the battery life is excellent. He says he gets 2.5 days from a single charge with moderate use. So your allegations are false.
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    11-16-2014 02:04 PM
  11. Wam1q's Avatar
    you call brick-heavy phones and crappy post-processing slow-as-a-snail camera software innovation?
    Blame that slow-as-a-snail camera to the Nokia Camera app. I have plenty of alternatives which are fast on my aging Lumia 1020, too. And newer phones will get the updated Lumia Camera soon with lots of impressive camera improvements.
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    11-16-2014 02:09 PM
  12. thesachd's Avatar
    FHD display at 6" is sharp and consumes lesser battery and resources than 2K. That's an advantage to the 1520, I guess.

    Lumia Denim with the updated Lumia Camera (v5) will get all the good Camera-centric features to the 1520 soon (along with passive listening--Hey Cortana). And resuming occurs in 8.0-specific apps. 8.1-optimised apps don't have that issue.

    Get your own facts correct, too.
    Actually I've seen resuming occur on apps optimised for Windows Phone 8.1 quite a bit. I know there is FAS but resuming is an issue Windows Phone has not been able to resolve.

    Hey...Android resumes apps as well when they we're opened a while but they don't take nearly as long as they do on Windows Phone.

    And in my experience the DSP on the Snapdragon 800 requires quite a bit of battery to listen and process voice commands. The Nexus 6 has a dedicated Motorola voice chip that is much more accurate and fast and consumes less battery.

    Maybe 1520 and 930 will get this feature soon, but we don't know yet how it'll work.

    Also you haven't been able to discredit the fact that Adreno 420 > Adreno 330.

    And also the Nexus 6 is cheaper than a 1520, at least in my country.

    what???? dude i just saw this and decided to "educate" you
    all snapdragon 800 Lumias are getting cortana voice activation when the display is on standby/off
    if im not mistaken the Nexus 5 wouldnt be getting "ok google" voice activation when the display is off,itll only work when the display is on
    also the "resuming" screen ensures your battery life is top notch
    i have yet to see an android device which lasts a day of heavy usage and yet to see a windows phone which dies out in less than a day
    also the "high and mighty" display wont make sense on a screen that small,before you "judge" this, the human eye only sees upto a certain resolution so anything above that is wasted and on a 6 inch screen,its even a bigger waste

    theoretically if you want to make the best of the higher resolution of say a 4k laptop or a 2k 6 inch screen,the only way is to keep it very far away from yourself
    which on a phone display is wasted and is still plausable on a laptop screen where the extra pixels are often needed by film editors etc
    android 5.0 doesnt have bloat(yet) because only the stock android devices have got updates right now,so id expect bloat when more devices get updates
    it also depends on how one defines bloat,id define bloat as some unneccessary google apps such as hangouts which is a pathetic and unreliable app and alot of smses just disappear within a few hours etc

    also since you like to feel android is not bloated
    its actually the only phone OS with bloat,unnecessary resource usage,only OS with antivirus,only OS which needs high specs to run etc etc
    Nexus 5 is irrelevant here, the primary reason for why it might not have received passive voice detection yet is because it consumes battery(even despite that DSP) and the Nexus 5 doesn't have the best battery life as is. But passive voice detection does work on the Nexus 5 when the phone is on charging and screen is off.

    Also there are tons of Android devices that could even last you for 2 days, so even if you have yet to seen one doesn't mean such an Android device doesn't exist.

    Also an interesting fact I would like to share with you, about when you said higher resolution screen matters for video editing. Android supports some pretty advanced video features.

    Also 2K display on a 5 inch screen may not entirely have a point. But having a 6 inch 2K display definitely matters. A difference from 368 to 495 PPI is pretty huge and though most would have you believe that your eyes can't see beyond 326 PPI, that's not entirely true.

    Once your are used to watching 2K content, on apps like YouTube I'm pretty sure you won't feel the need to go back to 1080p, especially if you have a 6 inch screen so it does matter.

    Also many phones are now getting 2K and 4K recording, it helps when you have a portable 2K screen to watch them on.

    Moto G gets OK Google because it has a special voice coprocessor. Snapdragon 8xx already has the coprocessor built-in. No other Lumia devices have the coprocessor except Lumia 930/1520. If a cheap Lumia had that coprocessor, even that WP device could get Hey Cortana. It is hardware dependent. Not all KitKat devices have OK Google, either.

    You took the specific example of a tiny phone with a tiny battery to compare with a giant phone with an enormous battery. Fair caparison... I beg to differ. I have a Lumia 1020 and get a full day out of it with moderate use. I got my Android friend to try WP by getting him a Lumia 530. The next week the first thing he said was that the battery life is excellent. He says he gets 2.5 days from a single charge with moderate use. So your allegations are false.
    Moto G doesn't have a special voice coprocessor, get your facts right please.
    11-16-2014 02:26 PM
  13. thesachd's Avatar
    unneccessary google apps such as hangouts which is a pathetic and unreliable app and alot of smses just disappear within a few hours etc

    also since you like to feel android is not bloated
    its actually the only phone OS with bloat,unnecessary resource usage,only OS with antivirus,only OS which needs high specs to run etc etc
    Also about the stock Google apps. Are there no pre installed Microsoft apps on Windows Phone?

    Google apps are generally not considered bloat and they serve a function.

    About your Hangouts bug, I genuinely sometimes doubt whether you've had the phones you claim to own because here's a message from my Hangouts back in 2012:

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    (I restored messages from an older app).

    Also Hangouts wasn't bloat, it was an SMS app. Can you uninstall the stock SMS app on Windows Phone?

    But at least Android let's you change the default SMS app, can Windows Phone do that?

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    11-16-2014 02:31 PM
  14. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    ^^why do you still come to windowscentral to spread nonsensical misinformation etc?
    also hangouts is a pathetic app just like google+
    also ms's preloaded apps can be uninstalled and the sms app works perfectly unlike lame hangouts
    hangouts and google+ is bloat
    also i own 10x more stuff than you,all from various brands and OS's etc
    i doubt you own a non-android device
    11-16-2014 02:37 PM
  15. thesachd's Avatar
    ^^why do you still come to windowscentral to spread nonsensical misinformation etc?
    also hangouts is a pathetic app just like google+
    also ms's preloaded apps can be uninstalled and the sms app works perfectly unlike lame hangouts
    hangouts and google+ is bloat
    also i own 10x more stuff than you,all from various brands and OS's etc
    i doubt you own a non-android device
    If you don't like Hangouts, switch to Messenger(also made by Google). I personally didn't find Hangouts latest redesign pretty visually appealing either so I switched my SMS app, wish I could do that on Windows Phone.

    I thought that Google+ was bad too, but it's actually a pretty nice place but you won't find yourself at home there because there are very few(if any) Windows Phone supporters in there.

    In many of the countries I've visited YouTube has been banned and I had to use proxies each time I accessed it. Google+ provided me with conversations in the comments section of YouTube videos without needing a proxy. So Google+ isn't bloat, at least for me and it can be easily disabled.

    It's only logical for Google to promote it's own services on it's own platform, that's something Microsoft should do as well maybe Windows Phone gets somewhere then.
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    11-16-2014 02:44 PM
  16. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    If you don't like Hangouts, switch to Messenger(also made by Google). I personally didn't find Hangouts latest redesign pretty visually appealing either so I switched my SMS app, wish I could do that on Windows Phone.

    I thought that Google+ was bad too, but it's actually a pretty nice place but you won't find yourself at home there because there are very few(if any) Windows Phone supporters in there.

    In many of the countries I've visited YouTube has been banned and I had to use proxies each time I accessed it. Google+ provided me with conversations in the comments section of YouTube videos without needing a proxy. So Google+ isn't bloat, at least for me and it can be easily disabled.

    It's only logical for Google to promote it's own services on it's own platform, that's something Microsoft should do as well maybe Windows Phone gets somewhere then.
    but why force users to use such services by default
    why not let them uninstall it without root
    why force them to sign up for google+ and hangouts,some of us like our privacy without such services
    microsoft doesnt force you to use skype,Lync etc
    Apple doesnt force you to use imessage,facetime etc
    why should google
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    11-16-2014 02:50 PM
  17. Wam1q's Avatar
    Hey...Android resumes apps as well when they we're opened a while but they don't take nearly as long as they do on Windows Phone.

    Maybe 1520 and 930 will get this feature soon, but we don't know yet how it'll work.

    Also an interesting fact I would like to share with you, about when you said higher resolution screen matters for video editing. Android supports some pretty advanced video features.

    Also 2K display on a 5 inch screen may not entirely have a point. But having a 6 inch 2K display definitely matters. A difference from 368 to 495 PPI is pretty huge and though most would have you believe that your eyes can't see beyond 326 PPI, that's not entirely true.

    Once your are used to watching 2K content, on apps like YouTube I'm pretty sure you won't feel the need to go back to 1080p, especially if you have a 6 inch screen so it does matter.

    Also many phones are now getting 2K and 4K recording, it helps when you have a portable 2K screen to watch them on.

    Moto G doesn't have a special voice coprocessor, get your facts right please.
    I haven't used a Nexus with Lollipop yet, but since the latest preview builds for WP and the app updates, the Resuming... issue is gone on my 1020. Even the dreaded Skype app resumes instantly now. I assume it is up to par with Android (Somehow the Tapatalk app got the resuming... issue too. It was fixed in a recent update--that shows it is up to the devs to fix it).

    Didn't you watch the Berlin event where they announced Lumia Denim? He demonstrated the feature with a Lumia 930. The phone screen was off and he said Hey Cortana and Cortana came up ready to take commands... So it works really nicely.

    WP has got some really impressive video editing apps, too.

    Most likely it is a placebo. You expect that 2K/4K is sharper than FHD and even if you cannot see the difference, your brain makes you think there is a difference though you cannot perceive it. I think anything greater than FHD on a phone screen is a waste of resources. And watching 2K/4K videos can be easily done on an FHD display without any loss of sharpness since your eye cannot (due to a physical design limitation--regardless of what you think) see that added sharpness.

    Moto G has a coprocessor of some sort. The main processor can NEVER handle such a thing as passive listening. This is from experience. I have an Intel i5 laptop. I activated passive listening for voice commands once. Guess what? The processor got burning hot and the fan went out like crazy... If an Intel processor has so much trouble handling voice, how can an ARM processor handle it so easily? This means one thing: The Moto G has a coprocessor of some sort for sure. No software trick could get the functionality.
    Last edited by Wam1q; 11-16-2014 at 03:14 PM.
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    11-16-2014 03:00 PM
  18. Wam1q's Avatar
    but why force users to use such services by default
    why not let them uninstall it without root
    why force them to sign up for google+ and hangouts,some of us like our privacy without such services
    microsoft doesnt force you to use skype,Lync etc
    Apple doesnt force you to use imessage,facetime etc
    why should google
    Apple sells you iDevices. Microsoft sells you Windows/Lumias. Google sells ads. And to do that, they need you using Google services. That's the basic difference. :)

    That's why Google is trying to improve Android... They want people to keep on using Google services, so that Google keeps getting user data to profit from. Creepy model...
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    11-16-2014 03:12 PM
  19. thesachd's Avatar
    but why force users to use such services by default
    why not let them uninstall it without root
    why force them to sign up for google+ and hangouts,some of us like our privacy without such services
    microsoft doesnt force you to use skype,Lync etc
    Apple doesnt force you to use imessage,facetime etc
    why should google
    To the best of my knowledge, and I've been using Android for over 4 years now Google has never really forced me to sign up for a service anymore than Microsoft has(with maybe one exception).

    Google doesn't force you to make a Google account, you can even skip that in the startup. Also it doesn't force you to use Google+, it just remains as a service you can try out.

    Google oftens itself makes phones cheaper and even goes as far as to subsidise them, for example GPE devices or the last gen Nexus series. Google makes it's money through advertisement so you can't really blame it for just showing you it's own apps or services, especially when it provides people with great devices.

    If Google was going as far as to display ads on the home screen or throughout the UI, that would be going too far but me and probably a million other people are fine with the rest.

    I haven't used a Nexus with Lollipop yet, but since the latest preview builds for WP and the app updates, the Resuming... issue is gone on my 1020. Even the dreaded Skype app resumes instantly now. I assume it is up to par with Android (Somehow the Tapatalk app got the resuming... issue too. It was fixed in a recent update--that shows it is up to the devs to fix it).

    Didn't you watch the Berlin event where they announced Lumia Denim? He demonstrated the feature with a Lumia 930. The phone screen was off and he said Hey Cortana and Cortana came up ready to take commands... So it works really nicely.

    WP has got some really impressive video editing apps, too.

    Most likely it is a placebo. You expect that 2K/4K is sharper than FHD and even if you cannot see the difference, your brain makes you think there is a difference though you cannot perceive it. I think anything greater than FHD on a phone screen is a waste of resources. And watching 2K/4K videos can be easily done on an FHD display without any loss of sharpness since your eye cannot (due to a physical limitation--regardless of what you think) see that added sharpness.

    Moto G has a coprocessor of some sort. The main processor can NEVER handle such a thing as passive listening. This is from experience. I have an Intel i5 laptop. I activated passive listening for voice commands once. Guess what? The processor got burning hot and the fan went out like crazy... If an Intel processor has so much trouble handling voice, how can an ARM processor handle it so easily? This means one thing: It has a coprocessor.
    Apart from just perceived sharpness of a display a 2K panel provides for more real estate to view smaller text and get better out of a phone display.

    Android allows for low power voice processing and video editing is great already, so in the future we might start seeing PC grade video/audio editing softwares in which a 2K display will prove very useful.

    Sharpness or not higher resolution has other benefits.

    And apart from this Snapdragon 800's DSP is pretty good but it isn't as good as Motorola's inbuilt solution voice detection system. It can detect some hot words pretty nicely but it can't differentiate between many different between different hot words or accents pretty easily.

    Motorola's voice detection chip, used in the Moto X and Nexus 6 is much better. In fact on the Moto X it offers custom hotwords and the like...and it works from pretty far away as well.

    I'm pretty sure Moto G doesn't have a voice coprocessor because Motorola's site doesn't list it in the specifications. But maybe it works well because the "OK Google" functionality is pretty well optimised and battery friendly.

    I'm pretty active on the XDA community and OK Google actually worked well with some older Snapdragon S1 devices, on the home screen at least.
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    11-16-2014 03:20 PM
  20. Wam1q's Avatar
    If you don't like Hangouts, switch to Messenger(also made by Google). I personally didn't find Hangouts latest redesign pretty visually appealing either so I switched my SMS app, wish I could do that on Windows Phone.
    Disable the notifications from the default messaging app and use whatever app you want for messaging... Is it that difficult?
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    11-16-2014 03:21 PM
  21. thesachd's Avatar
    Apple sells you iDevices. Microsoft sells you Windows/Lumias. Google sells ads. And to do that, they need you using Google services. That's the basic difference. :)

    That's why Google is trying to improve Android... They want people to keep on using Google services, so that Google keeps getting user data to profit from. Creepy model...
    They don't sell your personal data to consumers, only help in providing details for tailored advertisement. It's not creepy.
    11-16-2014 03:24 PM
  22. thesachd's Avatar
    Disable the notifications from the default messaging app and use whatever app you want for messaging... Is it that difficult?
    What apps are there for SMS on Windows Phone?

    It's a genuine question btw, I'm not making fun of WP.
    11-16-2014 03:25 PM
  23. Wam1q's Avatar
    They don't sell your personal data to consumers, only help in providing details for tailored advertisement. It's not creepy.
    When did I say they sell my data? The use my data to build a profile of me and my personality and based on that, sell ads. This is creepy. Why should a company know my personality and make predictions on that when I wouldn't even want a stranger to know that?

    E.g. I am a Nokia fan and used Chrome with Google search in the past. I frequently visit Nokia/WP sites. Now all ads I see in websites I run in Chrome are for the latest Lumias... :/

    My cousin uses gmail and she applied for a job and sent her CV to the company and had an email conversation with the company. She told me that from the very next day, the ads were of job-finding websites... :/

    Another cousin of mine told me he was working on a University project about cooling towers used in industries. He browsed the web a lot about that. He says that most of the ads are now related to cooling towers made by this company or that company... :/
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    11-16-2014 03:37 PM
  24. Wam1q's Avatar
    What apps are there for SMS on Windows Phone?

    It's a genuine question btw, I'm not making fun of WP.
    I don't really know, but since you said you wanted to set an app as the default and couldn't, I gave you a suggestion. I assumed you had such an app already.

    Edit: I guess GroupMe is similar to iMessage/Hangouts.
    http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=...d-c5f52b2e16e2
    Karthik Naik likes this.
    11-16-2014 03:39 PM
  25. link68759's Avatar
    Efficiently or not, there are things the Nexus can do which the 1520 can't because of the newer specifications. For one thing it supports voice commands even when the phone is off.

    It has a 2K display coupled with a Snapdragon 805 processor which allows for faster shot processing and tons of other improvements, and despite graphics already being better on Android the Adreno 420 will also provide a massive boost in graphics quality and speed.

    And Android doesn't experience "resuming" and usually gets apps to open up and multitask faster than Windows Phone but still the Nexus 6 will be able to multitask even better because of 3GB RAM.

    And lastly your notion about every Android update adds bloat, that is false. Every Android update released in the past few years focuses entirely on making performance better, and this year with 5.0 they have absolutely killed it. It's so smooth and silky, with very few things that they need to iron out, 4.4 was also a major step up in performance from 4.3 and previous versions of Android have done the same.

    Also about the bloatware, Android 5.0 actually makes bloatware less of an issue: http://bgr.com/2014/10/29/android-5-0-lollipop-feature/

    Also go ask anyone still rocking a Nexus 4 how their phone is running two years later on Android 5.0 and I'm sure they'll tell you how much faster it has gotten compared to the original 4.2

    Please for gods sakes educate yourself before spewing out what you consider "facts".

    Those would be some very good points if they had any relation to what I said.
    11-16-2014 03:41 PM
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