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  1. agentmikeyd99's Avatar
    I know this will draw some hate, but here goes:

    If MS doesn't come out with a new 6 inch flagship, I will soon be taking my family plans 4 phones to Android . I know there are many Android converts here and want their and others advice. I basically use my 1020 as my PC. It does everything I need for both a phone and PC (although its getting old and I need a bigger screen). IOS can't come close to 8.1 for my needs, but since Android is less of a walled garden can it do all that 8.1 does? For the record, I wont be leaving happily, as I go back to pocket pc's and WM with my hardware...
    11-12-2014 01:34 PM
  2. pursuit2550's Avatar
    I know this will draw some hate, but here goes:

    If MS doesn't come out with a new 6 inch flagship, I will soon be taking my family plans 4 phones to Android . I know there are many Android converts here and want their and others advice. I basically use my 1020 as my PC. It does everything I need for both a phone and PC (although its getting old and I need a bigger screen). IOS can't come close to 8.1 for my needs, but since Android is less of a walled garden can it do all that 8.1 does? For the record, I wont be leaving happily, as I go back to pocket pc's and WM with my hardware...
    What do you do in particular? I just left WP 8.1, after having 3 WP phones, because, I think, that is way behind Android. My biggest issue is, IE, IT SUCKS. To top it off there isnt a better IE app on WP. For what I use it for, Android is a way better experience for me , but everyone is different.
    11-12-2014 02:47 PM
  3. Jean Sagarese's Avatar
    lookint like I may be going back to Apple, Softcard doesn't know when or if they will add more credit cards and I was notiied that my primary credit card already works with ApplePay. I have to wait till September but if nothing appears to replace my 1020 I don't know that I will stay
    11-12-2014 03:02 PM
  4. agentmikeyd99's Avatar
    What do you do in particular? I just left WP 8.1, after having 3 WP phones, because, I think, that is way behind Android. My biggest issue is, IE, IT SUCKS. To top it off there isnt a better IE app on WP. For what I use it for, Android is a way better experience for me , but everyone is different.
    I literally use the phone as my PC. I do not use my PC or tablet (hard to quantify, but I have not used my PC in 7 months). And I want a 6 inch phablet to use in this same manner. In no way would I get the 1520 now, and with nothing on the horizon, thats why I am considering Android
    11-12-2014 03:26 PM
  5. TgeekB's Avatar
    Why wouldn't you get the 1520 now? What couldn't it do for you that Android could?
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    11-12-2014 06:15 PM
  6. tgp's Avatar
    I literally use the phone as my PC.
    If you're trying to replace a PC then Android is the closest you'll come. While it's far from perfect, it's easily the most capable.
    11-12-2014 06:35 PM
  7. agentmikeyd99's Avatar
    If you're trying to replace a PC then Android is the closest you'll come. While it's far from perfect, it's easily the most capable.
    Ok thanks flr the info. Windows phone 8.1 does great, it's just the lack of premium phablet hardware - 1520 is old btw
    11-12-2014 06:44 PM
  8. jonahtrav's Avatar
    Buy a used 1520 off of eBay and give it a try.
    11-12-2014 06:56 PM
  9. nessinhaw's Avatar
    sure the 1520 may be one year old BUT it doesen't make it a bad device!

    it still has a great AMOLED screen, a Snap 800 with 4 krait cores @ 2.2Ghz, Adreno 330, 2GB RAM, really great camera too and will surely be updated to Windows 10

    the specs might seem "old" but are still perfectly capable of handling WP more than well!

    heck, even on my 830 WP runs flawlessly and that's a Snap 400 + 1GB combo!

    also I'd say wait until Xmas to see if MS has nothing else to pull off their sleeves...I saw news like 2 days ago there will be a Lumia secret event next week, in UK, so who knows what might still come?
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    11-12-2014 07:27 PM
  10. undulose's Avatar
    Ok thanks flr the info. Windows phone 8.1 does great, it's just the lack of premium phablet hardware - 1520 is old btw

    1520 is old but if you compare it to this year's releases, this WP's second only to HTC One for Windows in terms of hardware. Mine is almost a year old but it still works flawlessly. :)
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    11-13-2014 02:29 AM
  11. undulose's Avatar
    Yes, Lollipop has some WP 8.1 features copied (like quiet hours).
    Sent from my Nokia Lumia 1520 (RM-937) using Tapatalk
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    11-13-2014 02:29 AM
  12. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Moved to Phone Wars forum, since this is regarding OS comparisons rather than Microsoft News.
    11-13-2014 02:35 AM
  13. X0LARIUM's Avatar
    Ever traveled on a plane with a bus ticket? No, I hope. Because that's what you are doing. Comparing a hopelessly designed, technically copied from another (iOS) OS, and "open-source" which in other words a hacker's wet dream. You want to move from WP to Android for lack of a flagship? I don't mean to be rude but that's the weakest argument I've heard since years. If I were to believe what you said, you are happy with WP, but just because there is no flagship, you want to jump boat. Doesn't sound very strong now does it?
    11-15-2014 04:36 AM
  14. mdau's Avatar
    Ever traveled on a plane with a bus ticket? No, I hope. Because that's what you are doing. Comparing a hopelessly designed, technically copied from another (iOS) OS, and "open-source" which in other words a hacker's wet dream. You want to move from WP to Android for lack of a flagship? I don't mean to be rude but that's the weakest argument I've heard since years. If I were to believe what you said, you are happy with WP, but just because there is no flagship, you want to jump boat. Doesn't sound very strong now does it?
    On top of what you have said, there's is 1520 and 930, they are still great windows phone devices with great cameras, battery life especially in 1520 is good, display is also very good. Better phones from microsoft are going to happen no doubt. I am sure he's not going to leave windows os just because of the lack of devices.
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    11-15-2014 04:58 AM
  15. agentmikeyd99's Avatar
    Ever traveled on a plane with a bus ticket? No, I hope. Because that's what you are doing. Comparing a hopelessly designed, technically copied from another (iOS) OS, and "open-source" which in other words a hacker's wet dream. You want to move from WP to Android for lack of a flagship? I don't mean to be rude but that's the weakest argument I've heard since years. If I were to believe what you said, you are happy with WP, but just because there is no flagship, you want to jump boat. Doesn't sound very strong now does it?
    LOL go away or answer the question
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    11-15-2014 06:12 AM
  16. X0LARIUM's Avatar
    LOL go away or answer the question
    There will be flagships. You will have to wait. WP doesn't need OCTA CORE Processors and 3GB RAMs. You are happy with WP I know that. The flagships you are talking about (of the competition) is going to be outdated in 2 months flat. There are multiple OEMs for Android and Apple has a superb control over media and its fanboys. MS has a car with one wheel and its doing all it can to win the race. Innovations? Check. Design aesthetics? Check. Build quality? Check. Advertising dollars? Double check. In short, MS is going to lead the pack soon. So now its up to you, if you want to join a clan that thrives on stolen ideas(Android) or one that is running around like a headless chicken when it comes to design (Apple).
    11-15-2014 06:18 AM
  17. Steve Adams's Avatar
    big thing is, is, that nokia/microsofts "unflagship" is much better than samesongs highly touted flagship note. I have the 1020 and a note running kitkat. The note is slow, laggy and the OS is just jumping all over the place. My nokia 1020 is technically "inferior" to my note phone, however its buttery smooth, fast and the camera is approximately 10000000000 times better. I have yet to take a good photo with the notes camera. The only reason im using the note is I dropped my nokia and shattered the screen. Every day tasks that I do on my 1020, are a chore on the note because of lag, and poor overall performance from the Android ecosystem. Its poor, at best. I can guarantee that the 1520 while "technically inferior" and does not meet your definition of flagship, is a much better phone, tablet, device than the note will ever be. I would look at overall experience than the hard specs. The samesong needs 8 cores etc in order to make android remotely run smooth. The 1520 does not need a powerful processor to run WINPHONE. Then, look at camera performance, (or lack there of in Samsung), Another useful feature unlike having the fastest processor when not needed. Look at sound quality both from the external speaker and the headphone jack. Again, Lumia rules the roost here. Then, look at battery life. I can go all day and then some with my Lumia. My note needs to be plugged in by early afternoon. Lumia wins again. Hell, this one is not even looked at any more. Call quality. The call quality and signal reception of the Lumia is vastly superior than the note as well.

    See, specs don't tell the story. User experience does. yes, android gets more apps, but I have every major app on my Lumia and they run great and provide a great user experience. I could care less about specs, A flagship phone should provide the best USER EXPERIENCE regardless of specs.
    11-15-2014 07:39 AM
  18. psoham777's Avatar
    ^^ I agree. Specs according to me doesn't matter much as long as I get flawless experience on a phone. Android always had a upper hand in terms of features, but it always had issues of lagging etc. On the other hand, WP is much better. I am a gamer still WP is perfect for me, I don't crave for some specific games, but I always get better alternatives instead(most of the time).
    1520 still is the best buy according to me. Leaving WP just because there are no flagships? That's pretty vague reason. Also you should buy 1520 as Microsoft already confirmed that all WP 8 devices would be getting WP 10 update!
    Sent from my dark knight 1320
    11-15-2014 07:52 AM
  19. ali235's Avatar
    hi there. you are forgetting that all of the android don't have lollipop and by the time they will have it we windows user will have win 10 which will be far better than lollipop. it happened in the past when google launched kitkat ............ those faithful to wp waited and got 8.1 which was far much better than kitkat........as for app gap it won't be problem for long .net is going open source and it will work on other platforms too.........so it will pique the interest of developers............. as for flagship there are plenty out there and plenty will be launched soon
    11-15-2014 07:52 AM
  20. Steve Adams's Avatar
    what is funny is that my 520 that was 60 bucks new is smoother than my 700 dollar note on android. 520 is a flagship too. ha ha
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    11-15-2014 08:20 AM
  21. chezm's Avatar
    If you go to android, like I did...avoid Samsung devices (stick with as vanilla android as you can), that will ensure no lag and performance as fluid as iOS in most cases. Also, I have Lollipop installed and its pretty awesome.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    11-15-2014 09:02 AM
  22. psoham777's Avatar
    what is funny is that my 520 that was 60 bucks new is smoother than my 700 dollar note on android. 520 is a flagship too. ha ha

    Yep, my 530 runs smooth. My 28 month old Lumia 710 runs smooth even when it merely has 1.4 GHz single core processor, whereas my friend's note 3 lags even when it has an octa core processor!
    11-15-2014 09:03 AM
  23. agentmikeyd99's Avatar
    If you go to android, like I did...avoid Samsung devices (stick with as vanilla android as you can), that will ensure no lag and performance as fluid as iOS in most cases. Also, I have Lollipop installed and its pretty awesome.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    Ok thanks. I have read good reviews of LG3. But.it will be tough to leave WP....hopefully a Win10 hardware announcement soon
    11-15-2014 09:21 AM
  24. Steve Adams's Avatar
    Again hardware specs don't make the experience.
    11-15-2014 09:38 AM
  25. EBUK's Avatar
    I have just moved to WP from Android. I like Android, but I grew increasingly irritated by it. You talk of Apple's walled-garden approach; well, Google is beginning to grow more controlling... Unlike WP8.1, unless you root the phone, which them opens it up to malicious attacks and makes it easier to brick your phone...

    • You can't move or install apps onto an SD card
    • Manuafacturer apps can save data/files to an SD card, but 3rd party apps cannot.
    • Manufacturer installed apps cannot be removed (they can only be disabled)


    Sure, you can install apps that will force some apps to save to SD, and apps that will allow you to move some apps to SD, but without root you're out of luck. The out-of-the-box experience really isn't that great; many useful functions can only be added through hacks and exploits, ie, rooting your phone.

    Can you see a pattern here? ROOTing your Android is a necessity to get the most out of your phone, but doing so will (in some countries) void the warranty (but not in the EU.)

    Of course, Android is more customisable than WP, and there is greater app choice compared with WP, and both are a massive advantage.
    11-15-2014 09:47 AM
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