12-28-2014 11:28 AM
80 1234
tools
  1. Oliverspin's Avatar
    The developer preview makes resuming much worse. My phone often gets stuck and I have to force close.
    12-07-2014 10:48 PM
  2. Skamath's Avatar
    I have had here drive crash on a few times but that is about it I would say about apps crashing. Phone restart has occurred a couple of times.
    12-07-2014 10:48 PM
  3. Skamath's Avatar
    The developer preview makes resuming much worse. My phone often gets stuck and I have to force close.
    DP is the newer software without the firmware. It is not the final version I suppose it still shouldn't add to the resuming and loading. What is holding back the RAM from processing faster? Nothing much runs in the background as in when you hold the back arrow it would show nothing in the open apps, at least not like apple and android.
    12-07-2014 10:50 PM
  4. prasath1234's Avatar
    I can say wp is great for low or mid end compared to android low or mid end I have problem with Moto g sometime it crashes nd freeze not my Lumia 820 till date.But battery life if using 3 g is pathetic .That is only gripe I have along with greenish tinge indoors.
    From Windows phone
    12-08-2014 01:06 AM
  5. stephen_az's Avatar
    Consider yourself EXTREMELY lucky then. I have a 1520 and the resuming bug is maddening!!! It happens almost everytime I unlock my phone and also when I resume most apps and games. And it can take up to ten seconds at times! It's bad enough that I'm seriously considering selling the phone!

    So in good conscience, there is no way I would call this OS more stable than iOS, not even close. Not even sure if we're more stable than Android now that they have lollipop.
    I am at a loss as to why people who have a problem assume their situation is the norm. Why is it that others should consider themselves lucky? Perhaps you simply have a problem and that is the atypical situation. You do understand that happens? Beyond all that, if your situation is truly maddening then why just consider switching? Would that not make your life easier or is it just more fun to complain?
    TechFreak1 likes this.
    12-08-2014 01:14 AM
  6. TechFreak1's Avatar
    Most people will always have different experiences regardless of O/S, therefore to the users who blankly to say WP always suffers from loading, resuming, lags, has micro-stutter, locks up constantly and android or ios doesn't suffer the same issues is presumptuous & naive (they do, most ios users will never admit it - too much pride I guess and I'm not saying Windows Phone is not issue free either). As it doesn't take into the account the insane amount variables that could go wrong i.e the nand flash reaches the end of it is read / write cycle, poorly optimised apps, bad batch of pcbs', poor connections between certain components..

    It is like saying only a certain brand of TV's always has issues, they all have issues - anything human-made will have issues which is why they have a shelve life, life cycles (and depends on the operating environment).

    From personal experience I have had my 920 randomly lock up here & there, just like the other smartphones in the past and even the old blackberry's were no exception - they needed a battery pull here & there. The only phones immune the issues that plague smartphones to day are the old classics i.e the 3310, 3210.. which unfortunately are labeled "dumb phones" these days. As we demand more & more from our miniature PC's we will always come across more and more issues.
    12-08-2014 04:56 AM
  7. a5cent's Avatar
    The only phones immune the issues that plague smartphones to day are the old classics i.e the 3310, 3210.. which unfortunately are labeled "dumb phones" these days. As we demand more & more from our miniature PC's we will always come across more and more issues.
    You forgot WP7. That was probably the most stable mobile OS I've ever used. In the 2.5 years I used it I had to reset it but once, after letting it fall on a sharp stone after which it was also physically seriously damaged. Compared to my Lumia 800, my Lumia 920 was an unreliable mess. Not terrible, but not in the same league. I have not owned my Lumia 830 long enough to comment on this issue, but so far so good.
    12-08-2014 05:29 AM
  8. TechFreak1's Avatar
    You forgot WP7. That was probably the most stable mobile OS I've ever used. In the 2.5 years I used it I had to reset it but once, after letting it fall on a sharp stone after which it was also physically seriously damaged. Compared to my Lumia 800, my Lumia 920 was an unreliable mess. Not terrible, but not in the same league. I have not owned my Lumia 830 long enough to comment on this issue, but so far so good.
    Fair enough, I was referring to Windows Phone as a whole :) and I have not had a windows phone 7 device long enough as a daily driver (I only had the Lumia 800 on & off not & not more than 12 months in total) to comment on it's issue(s) compared to my L920 - this DEC would make it the 25th Month.

    The time I had the Lumia 800, I didn't encounter any problems then again I didn't really fiddle around with it too much as the seller kept changing her mind if she wanted to sell the phone or not (my sister's friend) lol.
    12-08-2014 06:14 AM
  9. taymur's Avatar
    Windows Phone 8.0 is the most stable for me. 8.1 with Cyan isn't stable for me at all.
    Then you should have seen WP7, that thing was a beast. it needs special powers to make that slow down or freeze.

    but yet it couldn't do anything lol.
    tgp likes this.
    12-08-2014 06:58 AM
  10. thesachd's Avatar
    No.

    While in a way Windows Phone would qualify to be a stable operating system.

    Over the past few months I've been trying to see how true claims about Windows Phone we're. Some people here say Windows Phone never lagged, ran better than Android in low end, never crashed and ran great even when memory was full.

    None of those, not even one of those claims has proven true.

    Having tried a Lumia 520 and 530, the 530 crashed in my first one minute of using Skype:



    To name a few, Tapatalk, Atmosphere Weather, tons of games, Internet Explorer, Xbox Music, Magnify Newsreader crashed on the 520 in more extended use.

    The reason why people say Windows Phone has never crashed for them can also be partly blamed on the fact that Windows Phone doesn't give you any message about why your app just closed, so most people don't realise it.

    There are tons of things wrong with scrolling, where content often disappears and takes you back to your original point. Touch issues seem to be apparent.

    iOS with Apple's strict control over software and hardware is the most worthy of being called the most stable experience you can find on mobile, Android and Windows Phone would come in second place.
    AverageWPUser and prasath1234 like this.
    12-08-2014 08:16 AM
  11. neo158's Avatar
    No.

    While in a way Windows Phone would qualify to be a stable operating system.

    Over the past few months I've been trying to see how true claims about Windows Phone we're. Some people here say Windows Phone never lagged, ran better than Android in low end, never crashed and ran great even when memory was full.

    None of those, not even one of those claims has proven true.

    Having tried a Lumia 520 and 530, the 530 crashed in my first one minute of using Skype:



    To name a few, Tapatalk, Atmosphere Weather, tons of games, Internet Explorer, Xbox Music, Magnify Newsreader crashed on the 520 in more extended use.

    The reason why people say Windows Phone has never crashed for them can also be partly blamed on the fact that Windows Phone doesn't give you any message about why your app just closed, so most people don't realise it.

    There are tons of things wrong with scrolling, where content often disappears and takes you back to your original point. Touch issues seem to be apparent.

    iOS with Apple's strict control over software and hardware is the most worthy of being called the most stable experience you can find on mobile, Android and Windows Phone would come in second place.
    Yet those issues relate to apps and not the OS, therefore the OS IS stable but the apps are the ones that need updates to fix those issues. That is unless you can show me those issues in the OS itself.
    12-08-2014 08:22 AM
  12. thesachd's Avatar
    Yet those issues relate to apps and not the OS, therefore the OS IS stable but the apps are the ones that need updates to fix those issues. That is unless you can show me those issues in the OS itself.
    True, apps are at fault.

    But if we we're to take apps out of the equation. Android, Windows Phone and iOS are almost equally stable. What makes Windows Phone the most stable?
    D M C and neo158 like this.
    12-08-2014 08:44 AM
  13. neo158's Avatar
    True, apps are at fault.

    But if we we're to take apps out of the equation. Android, Windows Phone and iOS are almost equally stable. What makes Windows Phone the most stable?
    But that's the point I'm trying make, people in this thread are using apps as an example of why WP isn't stable. Microsoft is to blame for their own apps but some of the apps are from third parties and can only be fixed by the developers.
    12-08-2014 08:53 AM
  14. Dk92's Avatar
    WP8 was, but not 8.1
    LTTG likes this.
    12-08-2014 08:54 AM
  15. tgp's Avatar
    I agree with those who say that WP7 was stable. I had much less luck with WP8 & WP8.1. I believe that it goes back to the OSs' capabilities. Since we're comparing OS's here, I'll feel free to bring in Android. Android has been very full featured for quite some time now, and WP, especially WP7, was quite basic by comparison. WP7 was stable. With WP8 and since, features have been added at a fast rate. Along with that, it has become less stable with plenty of bugs, like Android.

    At the same time, Android has become much more stable. Since it's been full featured for awhile, Google has had time to work on optimizing the OS for stabilization, while Microsoft is still working on adding features. I imagine that with time, Microsoft will also be able to optimize WP to run well with all its features. It's just that Android is several years ahead of WP.

    FWIW, I once had an uptime of 1,700 hours (70 days) on my Nexus 5 running KitKat. It was my primary device. I used it all day, every day, for everything.
    Dk92 and Jose_Rey like this.
    12-08-2014 09:08 AM
  16. iamtim's Avatar
    people in this thread are using apps as an example of why WP isn't stable
    Except for the random reboots. And rapid, random battery drain. Both of which many users tried to nail down an app source but could not.
    12-08-2014 09:33 AM
  17. flyingsolid's Avatar
    I don't think this is possible on Android. I still have a few old Android but I know they will crash quick. I want to try it on iOS but my sis is using my iPhone . I don't have Blackberry OS 10 and don't have much experience with it.
    I'll chime in. If you remained on BlackBerry OS 10.2.1 (the current official OS for most devices), have a fully charged device, enough free device resources, and a properly coded, native application, the OS itself, and possibly the application too, should be stable enough to support such uptimes. I can only speak in hypotheticals because I have never tried it myself. My Windows Phone experience has been similar as well, in regards to overall OS stability.
    neo158 likes this.
    12-08-2014 10:32 AM
  18. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I'll chime in with my own experience. A few months ago I purchased a G3 that I thought was the cat's azz. Didn't enjoy it long enough due to a triple twist with a half gainer from 14 stories, but it was excellent. After recouping funds to purchase another one I thought I was all set. Then the fabled Android lag started setting in after a month or so. I've always been vigilant about open apps and what's running in the background but the phone started to bog down and apps started crashing. Not every day, but it was noticeable. As impatient as I was, I sold it and went back to a 1520. First thing I did was put the DP on and something didn't seem quite right. I couldn't put my finger on it but you know when something's off-kilter. Downloaded the Nokia Updater and put it right back where it once was and I can tell you it's night and day. The "resuming" screen is virtually non-existent and I haven't had to reboot in the 3 weeks since I got the phone. I think I'll just wait for Denim. I've learned the hard way that being impatient will only make you A patient.
    Guytronic and prasath1234 like this.
    12-08-2014 11:30 AM
  19. thesachd's Avatar
    I'll chime in with my own experience. A few months ago I purchased a G3 that I thought was the cat's azz. Didn't enjoy it long enough due to a triple twist with a half gainer from 14 stories, but it was excellent. After recouping funds to purchase another one I thought I was all set. Then the fabled Android lag started setting in after a month or so. I've always been vigilant about open apps and what's running in the background but the phone started to bog down and apps started crashing. Not every day, but it was noticeable. As impatient as I was, I sold it and went back to a 1520. First thing I did was put the DP on and something didn't seem quite right. I couldn't put my finger on it but you know when something's off-kilter. Downloaded the Nokia Updater and put it right back where it once was and I can tell you it's night and day. The "resuming" screen is virtually non-existent and I haven't had to reboot in the 3 weeks since I got the phone. I think I'll just wait for Denim. I've learned the hard way that being impatient will only make you A patient.
    Haha I know that feel. The G3 is a phone with weak hardware and poor software, I have friend with the phone and it lags terribly. Every time be presses the home button the UI reloads.
    12-08-2014 12:08 PM
  20. neo158's Avatar
    Except for the random reboots. And rapid, random battery drain. Both of which many users tried to nail down an app source but could not.
    Except random reboots on phones like the ATIV S occur on the GS3 as well and only when the signal is low or non existent. Rapid, random battery drain is usually fixed with a factory reset. The fact is that those issues are not a symptom of an unstable OS unless you're using the PfD.
    12-08-2014 12:16 PM
  21. iamtim's Avatar
    Except random reboots on phones like the ATIV S occur on the GS3 as well and only when the signal is low or non existent.
    ...but it's not a common occurrence with iOS. So how can one say that Windows Phone is the most stable OS when it shares a problem with Android but not iOS?

    Rapid, random battery drain is usually fixed with a factory reset.
    Sometimes, but not always. I'm telling you, go read all the threads here about rapid, random battery drain. I was once like you and thought it had to be an app problem, or that a factory reset would fix it hands down. But after reading ALL the complaints - and I did, if you read the threads you'll find I was VERY outspoken about it NOT being an OS problem - I've come to the conclusion that it can be nothing but an OS problem.

    The fact is that those issues are not a symptom of an unstable OS unless you're using the PfD.
    That is absolutely, in no way, a fact, by any stretch of the imagination. Again, the user reports on this very site refute that premise.
    12-08-2014 12:38 PM
  22. neo158's Avatar
    ...but it's not a common occurrence with iOS. So how can one say that Windows Phone is the most stable OS when it shares a problem with Android but not iOS?
    Because, if you read my post, I didn't mention iOS and only mentioned Samsung devices and this isn't a bug but rather a feature in the firmware to prevent overheating.

    Sometimes, but not always. I'm telling you, go read all the threads here about rapid, random battery drain. I was once like you and thought it had to be an app problem, or that a factory reset would fix it hands down. But after reading ALL the complaints - and I did, if you read the threads you'll find I was VERY outspoken about it NOT being an OS problem - I've come to the conclusion that it can be nothing but an OS problem.
    Never had that problem myself but from all the reports I've read it only seems to be the Lumia devices that suffer with this. What that says to me is that it's either an errant app or hardware problems. If it was an OS issue then it wouldn't just be the Lumia devices that have this issue...

    That is absolutely, in no way, a fact, by any stretch of the imagination. Again, the user reports on this very site refute that premise.
    ...and to add to my previous section, most other devices with those symptoms seem to be running the PfD which, by its very nature, isn't ready for release. Why do you think the PfD sees more updates? Remind me again what version of WP were the devices with the boot loops running?

    To add to this, I would agree with you about this being OS issues IF those symptoms occurred on ALL other Windows Phones as well but they don't.
    Last edited by neo158; 12-08-2014 at 03:46 PM.
    12-08-2014 03:34 PM
  23. iamtim's Avatar
    from all the reports I've read it only seems to be the Lumia devices that suffer with this ... most other devices with those symptoms seem to be running the PfD
    For Christ's sake, man, quit arguing when you don't have all the information. Go back to the earliest posts right after Windows Phone 8 was released; the issues I've brought up apply to ALL Windows Phones - not just Lumias - and they existed long before the DP was even a thing. And they still exist to this day.
    12-08-2014 04:02 PM
  24. neo158's Avatar
    For Christ's sake, man, quit arguing when you don't have all the information. Go back to the earliest posts right after Windows Phone 8 was released; the issues I've brought up apply to ALL Windows Phones - not just Lumias - and they existed long before the DP was even a thing. And they still exist to this day.
    I do have ALL the information. Lets apply your logic to an issue I have on my Surface running the latest firmware and all the updates, I'm having issues with phantom touches on the screen and going by your logic it must be an OS issue. That's simply not the case because it hasn't occurred on any other peoples devices that I'm aware of, it can't be firmware as there would be an increase in reports of that issue with the latest firmware and it can't be an app issue as more people would have reported it, therefore the only issue it can be is the hardware.

    Can you see why your logic fails, if it was an OS issue then EVERYONE with a WP would have the same problems regardless of the manufacturer and that's simply not the case.

    Nice to see a reply to ALL of my post though /s
    12-08-2014 04:17 PM
  25. iamtim's Avatar
    I do have ALL the information.
    You obviously don't, and you seem to be ignoring me telling you where you can get it. I also think you don't actually read what's being posted... I said, "the issues I've brought up apply to ALL Windows Phones" to which you replied, "if it was an OS issue then EVERYONE with a WP would have the same problems regardless of the manufacturer and that's simply not the case." It's like you're sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling "LA LA LA I AM NOT LISTENING!"

    So, enjoy living your peaceful life of willful ignorance, where no intermittent or random issue could possibly be the fault of the OS, especially when there are no other explanations and no other commonalities amongst those who suffer them.
    12-08-2014 04:38 PM
80 1234

Similar Threads

  1. Tom Warren confirms there is a Lumia 1030
    By monzki in forum Upcoming & Rumored Phones
    Replies: 28
    Last Post: 10-05-2015, 02:10 AM
  2. Windows App Studio will end support for Windows Phone 8.0 on Dec. 17
    By WindowsCentral.com in forum Windows Central News Discussion
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 12-06-2014, 10:39 PM
  3. Top Rated Windows Phone games from Disney
    By WindowsCentral.com in forum Windows Central News Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 12-06-2014, 10:42 AM
  4. Replies: 4
    Last Post: 12-06-2014, 10:40 AM
  5. Mojang to launch Scrolls for Windows December 11 for $4.99
    By WindowsCentral.com in forum Windows Central News Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 12-06-2014, 09:42 AM
LINK TO POST COPIED TO CLIPBOARD