01-09-2015 09:53 AM
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  1. fatclue_98's Avatar
    The hardware is newer as the Lumia 1520 is essentially a bigger Icon/930 and also is apart of Microsoft/Lumia's upgrade path. Having an 801 processor doesn't mean that the M8 is going to be upgraded longer than the 930 or 1520. Especially when you put the history of HTC in question :)

    And again, I am an employee who uses, sells the devices(including the m8 and lumia) and works with customers and specifically with Windows Phone and Windows Devices(Surface) and most recently Xbox. Not only that, I am also a passionate evangelist of windows phone....so I actually do quite a bit ;) Because someone doesn't praise your M8 and points out its flaws does not mean they are running you down.
    Are you an evangelist of Windows Phone or Lumia? Careful with what you might suggest to a customer. If Microsoft decides to leave the hardware side of WP one day what will you say to a prospective customer? HTC sucks, but just a little? We need as many OEMs to jump onboard and flood the market with WP devices. Some will be low end and others may be top flight models. In fact, some of them may even have onscreen buttons. Not having to map capacitive buttons is beneficial to OEMs like HTC who took a successful Android phone and brought it over with a minimum of expense. I'd love to see a WP version of the LG G3.
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    01-02-2015 07:09 PM
  2. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    Are you an evangelist of Windows Phone or Lumia? Careful with what you might suggest to a customer. If Microsoft decides to leave the hardware side of WP one day what will you say to a prospective customer? HTC sucks, but just a little? We need as many OEMs to jump onboard and flood the market with WP devices. Some will be low end and others may be top flight models. In fact, some of them may even have onscreen buttons. Not having to map capacitive buttons is beneficial to OEMs like HTC who took a successful Android phone and brought it over with a minimum of expense. I'd love to see a WP version of the LG G3.
    I am a windows phone evangelist . I do recommend Lumia because they are the best for me personally.

    With that said should they stop making Lumia, I can recommend other devices.

    For the Lumia fans who couldn't get an icon on Verizon I did recommend they get the Samsung ativ se over the m8, as it too is a better phone than the m8 in my opinion :)
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    01-02-2015 09:28 PM
  3. JamesDax's Avatar
    I am a windows phone evangelist . I do recommend Lumia because they are the best for me personally.

    With that said should they stop making Lumia, I can recommend other devices.

    For the Lumia fans who couldn't get an icon on Verizon I did recommend they get the Samsung ativ se over the m8, as it too is a better phone than the m8 in my opinion :)
    In no way whatsoever is the Ativ SE better then the M8. Opinions are one thing but when you're wrong your wrong.
    01-02-2015 10:05 PM
  4. fatclue_98's Avatar
    In no way whatsoever is the Ativ SE better then the M8. Opinions are one thing but when you're wrong your wrong.
    I've owned both and I would agree with Micah that the Ativ SE is a better device than the M8. The display is much sharper, the camera is almost as good as a Lumia and it's one of the few phones left with a removable battery. Yeah, it's plastic. But it's very elegantly dressed in faux chrome. Other than that, they're evenly matched heavyweights with IR blasters too.
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    01-02-2015 10:14 PM
  5. D M C's Avatar
    If Camer is your thing and you are ready to trade off everything else then go for L1520.

    HTC One got everything better than L1520 except Camera.

    It's really simple.
    01-02-2015 11:27 PM
  6. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    To the OP, why don't you try and see if you can find one on Craigslist. Might save you less...if you're going to do the Att next(which is good), you'll have to pay the installment plan and what not for however long you do yours(I do mine on12...my mother does her on 24 which is silly but ehh whatever for her).

    The reason I suggest craigslist...The phone is used, true but, you probably can find a cheap Lumia 1520 online at craigslist and pay a little more upfront($250 or so) and still come out paying less than you would for an Att next phone that you aren't even going to be keeping anyway since you trade it back in when your upgrade is over.

    Plus your bill would stay the same price as it is now :)

    Myself I am thinking of buying an unlocked Lumia 930 as it was the best windows phone of 2014 in my opinion but unfortunately ATT does not carry it.

    I love the design of that phone and I want something 'new' to play with :P
    I may even 'downgrade' to a Lumia 830 as after the 1520, the Lumia 830 is Att's best phone in my opinion.

    The 830 is the only one that matters and if my sources are correct, may be selling quite a bit(for a windows phone) along with the 635.

    I'll still have my 1520 because it is a beast and I love this screen but I do want something new just to say I have something new haha.

    Also check out the Lumia 830

    You may actually like that phone coming from your Lumia 1020....minus the camera of course :P
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    01-03-2015 01:34 AM
  7. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Let's keep this thread on topic and discuss the OP's original question, not discuss other members.
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    01-03-2015 01:53 AM
  8. Japanmanx3's Avatar
    Appreciating all the comparisons guys. Seems like I'm good either way. Considering that the high end Lumia line is like the Nexus line in terms of software updates I'm thinking I'll go with the 1520. To bad Micah got banned before I could ask for more detail on the AT&T Next stuff.

    Overall the M8 seems solid. Its more premium from a hardware standpoint but lacks in Camera and screen size. Its still in though. I'll do my best to wait for CES and the 1/20 event before finally deciding.
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    01-03-2015 02:29 AM
  9. Midniteryu's Avatar
    my wife upgraded from a older nokia WP and so far she loves the M8 still getting used to no capacitive buttons but shes liking it more everyday.
    01-03-2015 05:37 AM
  10. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    Appreciating all the comparisons guys. Seems like I'm good either way. Considering that the high end Lumia line is like the Nexus line in terms of software updates I'm thinking I'll go with the 1520. To bad Micah got banned before I could ask for more detail on the AT&T Next stuff.

    Overall the M8 seems solid. Its more premium from a hardware standpoint but lacks in Camera and screen size. Its still in though. I'll do my best to wait for CES and the 1/20 event before finally deciding.
    The next program is pretty good, it's basically allowing you to buy a new phone (at full price) and pay it off in monthly installments with no interest. 12-18-24 months, no contracts no ETF The 18 month plan you're eligible to walk in to the store in 12 months and get a new phone starting over again by trading in your current phone provided it is in excellent condition, and the 24 month plan you can do the same thing in 18 months. If you switch carriers you're responsible to pay off the balance of the phone. Your bill will reflect the monthly payments and it can go up if you get a more expensive phone, something to keep in mind.

    They have some good incentives on data rates for 1st time participants too.

    Personally I won't buy any used cellphone from online sources, while you can get some seemingly good deals, you can get some real bad ones as well with no recourse. You take your chances..

    Waiting to me makes sense to do, and will give you time to go and see the different phones first hand.

    Good luck
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    01-03-2015 09:40 AM
  11. Kevin Hill2's Avatar
    I have the M8 and my wife has the 1520, the M8 is the best windows phone I have owned, My wife loves the screen size of her 1520 and it does take really nice pictures but I think the M8 does just fine it is not like I am going to frame any of them, but what I really like about the camera on the M8 is it is fast. As far as Battery power goes , the 1520 might have a bigger battery but it will not out last my M8, by the end of the day she is down to 20 to 30 % and I am still over 50 % and I use my phone a lot more than she does. And I am sorry to bring this up , but the speakers really and I mean really make a difference, and the design, just pick up both phones you will know what I mean. I think Lumia phones are great and the 1520 is top of the heap of Lumia phones and if screen size and super camera and the Lumia name are what you are after the 1520 is for you, but if you want a well rounded great phone the M8 is it.
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    01-03-2015 10:54 AM
  12. Visa Declined's Avatar
    Both phones have positives and negatives, you can't say that one is overall better than the other, it all depends on the user. Sure the 1520 has a better camera, but the M8 has a better CPU and speakers. Not everyone want's a 6" phone either. I think both phones are fantastic.
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    01-03-2015 12:31 PM
  13. Loco5150's Avatar
    As far as Battery power goes , the 1520 might have a bigger battery but it will not out last my M8, by the end of the day she is down to 20 to 30 % and I am still over 50 % and I use my phone a lot more than she does.
    What, really can this ne true? How many mAh's the M8 battery has?

    Does your wife have Denim? Just asking because I dont think the camera on the HTC launches faster than 1520 and Denim. Equally fast I believe, nyt faster no.
    01-03-2015 01:40 PM
  14. Loco5150's Avatar
    Ok 2600 mAh. If you guys have equal amount of apps running on the background etc, your wife's 1520 has something wrong with it, and you should take it in.

    I'm sure the m8 has a good battery, but I doubt it can match the one in 1520. Just look at simple tests done around the web.
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    01-03-2015 01:46 PM
  15. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    Ok 2600 mAh. If you guys have equal amount of apps running on the background etc, your wife's 1520 has something wrong with it, and you should take it in.

    I'm sure the m8 has a good battery, but I doubt it can match the one in 1520. Just look at simple tests done around the web.
    Sorry.. but it is true that the smaller battery last longer on the m8, and the reason is because of the 801 chipset...and the improvement it has over the 800.

    Each new chipset brings optimizations. Like I said earlier in this thread go and research this and you will find out.

    What some here who proclaimed they knew, really didn't, because there is more to each progressive chip in line than just speed increases but better core functions too. This is one.

    The newer versions are always more capable than the one that they replaced. Battery management is just 1 thing that is better on it.
    The 1520 is pretty good but if it had the 801 chipset in it, it would be better, and with the newer versions coming out (805-810) it's going to be awesome for battery life...if they actually want to make it a true flagship phone and use them.

    Some folks who should know better refuse to accept that the m8 is a excellent phone and has better spec's in several regards . They get all wrapped up in who makes the device, and what has happened in the past and how pretty of pictures their line of phones take, and as a result miss the fact that the m8 is more than just a average phone. It is a flagship phone that is highly recommended.

    It's a pity they do this because they succeed in what they want to do and that is to keep people who don't know the real difference between them from buying one....and this just hurts the platform.
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    01-03-2015 03:01 PM
  16. Loco5150's Avatar
    I seriously doubt this. All tests I have seen, now I mean real benchmark tests, not someone saying i use my phone so and so much, put the L1520 on top. And for a reason.

    The difference is 800mAh.

    And in my sig are my phones, missing only my 1520 and 930, there are quite of few HTC's there, I have nothing against HTC.
    Last edited by Loco5150; 01-03-2015 at 04:20 PM.
    01-03-2015 04:09 PM
  17. Loco5150's Avatar
    So here you go, at least we have some place putting the batteries in some order.

    Unless someone can do real clinical testing, stop claiming things that have no basis.

    http://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3
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    01-03-2015 04:18 PM
  18. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I seriously doubt this. All tests I have seen, now I mean real benchmark tests, not someone saying i use my phone so and so much, put the L1520 on top. And for a reason.

    The difference is 800mAh.

    And in my sig are my phones, missing only my 1520 and 930, there are quite of few HTC's there, I have nothing against HTC.
    You do realize that some people aren't even aware that there are many apps that run in the background without their knowledge. I get great battery life out of any WP device because the first thing I do is run every single app then leave only a few allowed to run in the background. Cortana, Calendar, OneDrive and Music are all I leave allowed and the difference is great.
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    01-03-2015 05:35 PM
  19. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    I seriously doubt this. All tests I have seen, now I mean real benchmark tests, not someone saying i use my phone so and so much, put the L1520 on top. And for a reason.

    The difference is 800mAh.

    And in my sig are my phones, missing only my 1520 and 930, there are quite of few HTC's there, I have nothing against HTC.
    Sigh.

    Some people never want to learn.

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/7846/t...g-up-confusion
    Last edited by MDMcAtee; 01-03-2015 at 06:27 PM.
    01-03-2015 05:37 PM
  20. Visa Declined's Avatar
    The 1520 has a larger battery, but that cannot be used as proof of longer battery life. That phone has a gigantic display that uses a lot more juice.

    That said, I'm under the impression still that the 1520 has better battery life than the M8.
    01-03-2015 10:40 PM
  21. WaleedAlrashed's Avatar
    both phones are amazing but if u switched to M8 i think u will lose some of amazing Lumia Apps like Lumia Camera .. Lumia Selfie and so one
    in the other hand M8 have a dual camera and it;s high end device think about dot case and how amazing launching Cortana without touching the phone
    but i will prefer Lumia 1520
    01-04-2015 12:03 AM
  22. Kevin Hill2's Avatar
    I seriously doubt this. All tests I have seen, now I mean real benchmark tests, not someone saying i use my phone so and so much, put the L1520 on top. And for a reason.

    The difference is 800mAh.

    And in my sig are my phones, missing only my 1520 and 930, there are quite of few HTC's there, I have nothing against HTC.
    I,m sorry you can do all the bench mark test you want, in the real world my M8 out last my wifes 1520, I could care less if you believe it or not, she has 4 apps that run in the back ground and I have 6, she plays Solitaire and I play heavy video using games. This is not my first rodeo I know how to set up a phone for max battery usage and hers is set up just like mine. I am not saying everyone will get the same but the M8 running Windows has great battery life.
    01-04-2015 01:21 AM
  23. Kevin Hill2's Avatar
    How is your experience with the dot view case?
    I personally don't like the Dot view case, I think it big bulky and very ugly, my phone came with one free and I did try to like it and some people really do like it. Why cover a great looking phone up, I use a clear slip case.
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    01-04-2015 01:28 AM
  24. snowmutt's Avatar
    Japanmanx3, how is it going? Excited for your 1520?

    I personally do not do the "Next" program, but that is my hangup. My wife and I are out of contract (my 2 kids are still on through December 2015, but they are both adults and will get their own lines after that), and we have decided to save money and just buy devices outright. I just feel as though the costs on the Next program are higher then what you will pay if you shop around and wait for a good deal. I see the advantage for those where monthly budgets are more important than overall price, but otherwise I feel as though it is designed with locking you in and following the "rent to own" business model.

    To everyone else, please remember this was a thread to help a user decide on a device. Now that the deision on the device has been made, what does everyone think of the AT&T Next program?
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    01-04-2015 02:10 AM
  25. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Japanmanx3, how is it going? Excited for your 1520?

    I personally do not do the "Next" program, but that is my hangup. My wife and I are out of contract (my 2 kids are still on through December 2015, but they are both adults and will get their own lines after that), and we have decided to save money and just buy devices outright. I just feel as though the costs on the Next program are higher then what you will pay if you shop around and wait for a good deal. I see the advantage for those where monthly budgets are more important than overall price, but otherwise I feel as though it is designed with locking you in and following the "rent to own" business model.

    To everyone else, please remember this was a thread to help a user decide on a device. Now that the deision on the device has been made, what does everyone think of the AT&T Next program?
    I'm out of contract now. I might or might not do the Next program, depending on how soon I want a new device. Since I'm currently using a device that is 2+ years old, I might not want to wait for price drops when the next (pardon the pun) high end Windows Phone is released.
    snowmutt likes this.
    01-04-2015 02:19 AM
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