07-28-2015 10:17 PM
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  1. pureview_lvr's Avatar
    Best and worst things about both os.
    Although both are technical previews.
    but still what is your opinion on it.
    And which things still you want in windows 10.
    Quang Tuyen1 likes this.
    07-05-2015 03:32 AM
  2. Narciso Neto's Avatar
    Best thing about Android M: Doze!
    Best thing about W10M: Continuum, Windows Apps and New UI.
    aximtreo likes this.
    07-05-2015 09:06 AM
  3. LindaFan's Avatar
    Android Mobile Phones in Pakistan are still on top and sales are on peak. As we know that Microsoft 'Bill Gates' has been take over the Nokia and he is trying to make a something new for break the android market but still now i didn't see anything in the market so let's the time decide.
    Mohammad Arshad likes this.
    07-06-2015 03:54 AM
  4. Laura Knotek's Avatar
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    07-06-2015 03:58 AM
  5. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    Seriously? A forum with WAR in the name where you have to be polite, understanding, patient and helpful?
    07-06-2015 08:13 AM
  6. Kris Simundson's Avatar
    Seriously? A forum with WAR in the name where you have to be polite, understanding, patient and helpful?
    It more or less means, don't fling insults at the user/poster. Keep the debate about phones/OS only.
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    07-06-2015 08:43 AM
  7. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    Android M is basically Google going "Lollipop was so buggy it was essentially an ant hive, so here's Android M." It doesn't bring much in the way of design or features but is mostly about performance and security.
    If Microsoft has any intelligence whatsoever, Windows 10 Mobile will not face the same issues as Lollipop.
    07-06-2015 09:47 AM
  8. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    Android M's Best thing: I guess the fact it has a lot of apps

    Worst thing: It's Android

    Windows 10 best things: I like a lot of the new features

    Windows 10 worst thing: It's design looks too android/IOS like.
    07-06-2015 06:43 PM
  9. Angry_Mushroom's Avatar
    They both promise to bring much to the table. Android M is supposed to help battery life along while Windows 10M is supposed to finally bring Windows on par with Android and iOS in terms of features. We'll see if either brings their hype to bear on the general marketplace. I have high expectations for both seeing as how I daily drive a G3 right now. Windows 10 I will watch closely to see if it can get me to switch back.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    07-07-2015 12:34 AM
  10. SammyD97's Avatar
    Was wondering when one of these threads will pop up.
    07-07-2015 03:06 AM
  11. fatclue_98's Avatar
    This is my assessment of the OS, not any particular device.

    Android: Tons of features that none of the current major OSes have. Problem is they're features that were around 7-8 years ago and are only marginally better than they were on WinMo or Symbian.
    Android: As a whole, they have a lot of work to do to be as refined as the others. There's no pretty way to say it, Android is very rough around the edges.

    Windows: Still playing catch up in terms of apps and features.
    Windows: What clean and polished looks like in today's mobile world.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    07-07-2015 01:22 PM
  12. Wbutchart1's Avatar
    From a discussion I was having yesterday, an android user was speaking about Google working on performance so that older devices may get upgraded by manufacturers and not just the brand new ones. Yet, when I told him the specs of my 535 and that it is running windows 10, and showed him it running he was somewhat stunned, android couldn't do that he said. So when it comes to performance I think 10 is winning, althrough I have never used any android phone much less 'm' so I'm working from second hand info.
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    07-07-2015 01:38 PM
  13. tgp's Avatar
    From a discussion I was having yesterday, an android user was speaking about Google working on performance so that older devices may get upgraded by manufacturers and not just the brand new ones. Yet, when I told him the specs of my 535 and that it is running windows 10, and showed him it running he was somewhat stunned, android couldn't do that he said. So when it comes to performance I think 10 is winning, althrough I have never used any android phone much less 'm' so I'm working from second hand info.
    Some of these performance claims are anecdotal. I've yet to see it in real world use. I've had many devices, both high end and low end, running both WP and Android. I've not seen it.

    In fact, I've not seen it even claimed anywhere besides fan sites like this one. Are there any scientific performance tests that show a marked difference between the two?
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    07-07-2015 03:05 PM
  14. Wbutchart1's Avatar
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    Some of these performance claims are anecdotal. I've yet to see it in real world use. I've had many devices, both high end and low end, running both WP and Android. I've not seen it.

    In fact, I've not seen it even claimed anywhere besides fan sites like this one. Are there any scientific performance tests that show a marked difference between the two?
    I have no clue, as I said I have never even unlocked an android phone let alone got a comment on lag. The guys was speaking with is a professional coder, he said don't look at anything less than snapdragon 400 for android. I have the 200 in the 535 and no issues at this time on win 10.
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    07-07-2015 05:51 PM
  15. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Some of these performance claims are anecdotal. I've yet to see it in real world use. I've had many devices, both high end and low end, running both WP and Android. I've not seen it.

    In fact, I've not seen it even claimed anywhere besides fan sites like this one. Are there any scientific performance tests that show a marked difference between the two?
    Android lag is real, not imagined. I've never put a stopwatch to it but the hiccups do exist and they usually rear their ugly heads after 1-2 months without a reboot. It's no secret that Android's resource management is inferior compared to other OSes. It's got nothing to do with being a forked Linux OS because webOS is also forked Linux and I never had any issues. For being a real-time OS, BlackBerry OS10 is stable as Gibraltar and we all know how stable WP is. Let's not confuse lag with the "resume" quirk since a WP device is fully functional while in "resuming" mode. When an Android lags, there is a brief moment of total unresponsiveness while the hamsters spool up the wheels. My G3 hit the 2 month mark this 4th of July weekend. How'd I spend my July 5th hangover? Re-flashing the factory KitKat firmware because it was a beautiful white paperweight after updating to Lollipop.
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    07-07-2015 06:42 PM
  16. tgp's Avatar
    Android lag is real, not imagined. I've never put a stopwatch to it but the hiccups do exist and they usually rear their ugly heads after 1-2 months without a reboot. It's no secret that Android's resource management is inferior compared to other OSes. It's got nothing to do with being a forked Linux OS because webOS is also forked Linux and I never had any issues. For being a real-time OS, BlackBerry OS10 is stable as Gibraltar and we all know how stable WP is. Let's not confuse lag with the "resume" quirk since a WP device is fully functional while in "resuming" mode. When an Android lags, there is a brief moment of total unresponsiveness while the hamsters spool up the wheels. My G3 hit the 2 month mark this 4th of July weekend. How'd I spend my July 5th hangover? Re-flashing the factory KitKat firmware because it was a beautiful white paperweight after updating to Lollipop.
    I do not see where I said that Android doesn't lag. Of course it does. So does every other OS. The discussion here is Android (M) vs. WP (Windows 10 mobile). What I said is that it has not been proven that Android is slower than WP on the same hardware.

    We have the perfect device to test performance on: the HTC One M8. I still can hardly believe that we cannot find reviews where someone has taken two M8s, one with WP and one with Android, and performed real world tests.

    Anyway, this subject has been discussed ad nauseam. I doubt this discussion is necessary anymore!
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    07-07-2015 07:06 PM
  17. fatclue_98's Avatar
    What I said is that it has not been proven that Android is slower than WP on the same hardware.
    My bad for misunderstanding but how can M and 10 be compared on the same device if neither one exists yet? I get the M8 reference but that would be comparing KitKat and 8.1.
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    07-07-2015 07:13 PM
  18. tgp's Avatar
    My bad for misunderstanding but how can M and 10 be compared on the same device if neither one exists yet? I get the M8 reference but that would be comparing KitKat and 8.1.
    Yeah you're correct; I did stretch that a bit. But the discussion had somewhat morphed into our current world as we know it.

    I can tell you one thing about the 2 specific OS's as they are now though: Android M preview is much more stable than W10M preview! I've been using a Nexus 6 with the official M preview on it for the last month, active on Project Fi. It performs with absolutely no flaws. In fact, I would have had no clue I was using a preview, except the MLB At Bat app didn't work. I guess you could call that a flaw, but it's probably more due to the app not being compatible with M. I've seen that with the At Bat app on previous OS updates.
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    07-07-2015 07:31 PM
  19. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Yeah you're correct; I did stretch that a bit. But the discussion had somewhat morphed into our current world as we know it.

    I can tell you one thing about the 2 specific OS's as they are now though: Android M preview is much more stable than W10M preview! I've been using a Nexus 6 with the official M preview on it for the last month, active on Project Fi. It performs with absolutely no flaws. In fact, I would have had no clue I was using a preview, except the MLB At Bat app didn't work. I guess you could call that a flaw, but it's probably more due to the app not being compatible with M. I've seen that with the At Bat app on previous OS updates.
    I sure hope M is better than Lollipop. 5.0 is to Android what Millennium Edition was to Windows. At least Vista with SP2 was awesome but I digress. Just goes to show you that no one is immune to a garbage release (iOS 8, Symbian Anna).

    Sent from my LG G3 via Tapatalk
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    07-07-2015 08:43 PM
  20. tgp's Avatar
    I sure hope M is better than Lollipop. 5.0 is to Android what Millennium Edition was to Windows. At least Vista with SP2 was awesome but I digress. Just goes to show you that no one is immune to a garbage release (iOS 8, Symbian Anna).

    Sent from my LG G3 via Tapatalk
    I've not had many issues with Lollipop, but 99% of my experience with it has been with Nexus devices (Nexus 5, 6, and both versions of 7). I know there have been lots of complaints though.

    Really, I've never had big problems with any OS, that is, until the W10 previews, both desktop and mobile. I have not had good success with either of those. But otherwise, I've been fine with every OS I've used. That includes Windows ME and Vista. I've been known to declare my appreciation for both of those!

    Sent from whatever device I happen to be using today using Tapatalk
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    07-07-2015 09:00 PM
  21. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I have not had good success with either of those.
    Which build did you use most recently? I was playing with 10130 this past week and I must say it's night and day from the 9900 series. I know I'm going to get some flak for this but I really don't get the hate for "tablet mode". I do find Edge/Spartan to still be a wee bit buggy but the actual core is fantastic. As for W10M, I had the first release on a 635 and it ran fine for about 2 weeks. I had a later build on my then-1520 and it was great except for the hack job they did on what was then the world's best VKB. I guess the old adage is true, your mileage may vary.
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    07-07-2015 09:20 PM
  22. tgp's Avatar
    Which build did you use most recently? I was playing with 10130 this past week and I must say it's night and day from the 9900 series. I know I'm going to get some flak for this but I really don't get the hate for "tablet mode". I do find Edge/Spartan to still be a wee bit buggy but the actual core is fantastic. As for W10M, I had the first release on a 635 and it ran fine for about 2 weeks. I had a later build on my then-1520 and it was great except for the hack job they did on what was then the world's best VKB. I guess the old adage is true, your mileage may vary.
    I always install the latest as soon as they drop, so I'm always on the most recent.

    My WP is an AT&T 920. It has never worked well with any of the preview drops. Pretty much every time I change screens I see Resuming... And the stores are another issue in themselves!

    On the desktop, the last couple updates have worked fairly well, but they're just sluggish. It's not hardware; the PC it's running on performed very well with Windows 7 and 8.1.

    You are certainly correct with YMMV!
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    07-07-2015 09:27 PM
  23. fatclue_98's Avatar
    On the desktop, the last couple updates have worked fairly well, but they're just sluggish. It's not hardware; the PC it's running on performed very well with Windows 7 and 8.1.
    I have learned the painful way that most of the problems are not so much hardware related like CPU or RAM, but rather graphics drivers. Compatibility settings are not very friendly to W10 for some reason.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    07-07-2015 09:47 PM
  24. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I sure hope M is better than Lollipop. 5.0 is to Android what Millennium Edition was to Windows. At least Vista with SP2 was awesome but I digress. Just goes to show you that no one is immune to a garbage release (iOS 8, Symbian Anna).

    Sent from my LG G3 via Tapatalk
    I'd compare Lollipop 5.1.1 to Vista SP1. Both Vista SP1 and Lollipop 5.1.1 fixed the worst bugs in their introductory versions.

    Sent from my rooted Nexus 7 (2013) using Tapatalk
    Kris Simundson likes this.
    07-07-2015 11:37 PM
  25. Kris Simundson's Avatar
    I'd compare Lollipop 5.1.1 to Vista SP1. Both Vista SP1 and Lollipop 5.1.1 fixed the worst bugs in their introductory versions.

    Sent from my rooted Nexus 7 (2013) using Tapatalk
    Good ol Vista aha, I was working at EB Games/Gamestop when it was released and got it with an employee discount. I think I was one of the few excited to get off WinXP.

    Sidenote: Oddly enough, after Vista, I don't think Gamestop ventured in PC Software (minus gaming) anymore lol.
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    07-08-2015 08:45 AM
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