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  1. xandros9's Avatar
    This is going to be worse for blackberry, remove that keyboard and then we can talk.. 950s' are way better.
    Literally every other high medium and low profile smartphone on the market has the physical keyboard removed.
    Guytronic and erfanjafar like this.
    09-30-2015 04:20 PM
  2. mmcpher's Avatar
    I really like the look, the screen size and the incorporation of the touch-sensitive slider keyboard. The drab appearance of the Android OS is a downer, however. I will likely get one, though my preference is that it run BB10 (that's a discussion for Crackberry). The idea of running W10M on the Priv is intriguing. It would stand out and might also provide, in the touch-sensitive keyboard, a means of being more precise and more consistent in selecting and cut and pasting text on the screen (which is something I've continued to struggle with on W10M on my 1520).
    vjfratiani likes this.
    09-30-2015 05:16 PM
  3. aravindrajen's Avatar
    I have been using Android since February with all my favorite Microsoft apps on them. I never once turned to Google apps. I used the LG G3, Samsung S5 and now Xiaomi Mi 4i. I've just been dying to get back to Windows. The new Lumias are VERY generic and not at all inspiring. With that said, I think the 950 XL in silver looks really nice, even though its nothing too special. I do not like the 950 design on the back (that camera). The designs look really cheap especially in black. The Blackberry Priv blew my mind with surved screen, full qwerty keyboard slider and running Android instead of Blackberry OS. Right now, it could go either way. I'll have to see what Microsoft really has got up their sleeve when they finally announce those phones.
    Joe Dubya likes this.
    09-30-2015 08:40 PM
  4. Joe Dubya's Avatar
    I like this blackberry and think this has a place in the market for those who like / are notstalgic for keyboards. But I have used so many different phones and NOTHING types faster than a swype keyboard (just watch me text one-handed on a subway while you struggle with your "slider" and fall over because you need two hands to type slower). Sorry, but for me the keyboard is a useless accessory, and detracts from an otherwise pretty phone.
    09-30-2015 10:47 PM
  5. jmshub's Avatar
    It's an attractive phone, but like everyone else, ditch the slider and trust a touchscreen keyboard. It's 2015. How top-heavy would that be to try and hold it by the keyboard and type out a big email?
    09-30-2015 11:52 PM
  6. UberschallSamsara's Avatar
    I still don't understand the appeal of a physical keyboard.
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    Two words: Tactile. Feedback.

    With a PKB your fingers can rest on the keys w/out entering any input until you want them to. Once you get used to a PKB you don't have to stare intently at it to enter text accurately - in fact that was the appeal to CrackBerry addicts - typing under the table while looking at what else is going on around you. And if you get bumped while inputting via touch screen - whoopsy daisy off goes your message before you finished editing it.
    sbtpdx likes this.
    10-01-2015 12:05 AM
  7. xandros9's Avatar
    It's an attractive phone, but like everyone else, ditch the slider and trust a touchscreen keyboard. It's 2015. How top-heavy would that be to try and hold it by the keyboard and type out a big email?
    not at all, having used a portrait slider before.

    but cmon can't we get some variety? we already have too many candy bars as it is
    JRF_1986 likes this.
    10-01-2015 12:09 AM
  8. Michael Tillman's Avatar
    I'd kill for a blackberry classic running windows 10 mobile! Reminds me of my beloved Nokia E73. I might type faster with Swype but there are too many mistakes and I love the feel of the physical qwerty. I'm sure most of you will disagree but it's just my personal preference!
    xandros9 and fatclue_98 like this.
    10-01-2015 12:54 AM
  9. mmcpher's Avatar
    I don't know, but if you loathe a physical keyboard and hate the look of the device, maybe it's not for you. Maybe you aren't the targeted audience for the Priv. So if you have achieved transcendent perfection on a touchscreen and have pushed beyond the boundaries of theoretical productivity on a touchscreen smartphone, you should stick with that rather than buying a Priv under belligerent protest and stubbornly refusing to ever deploy the slider keyboard. I think the Priv as is, is an interesting experiment that's already drawn some interest. That you or I as individuals might not like it doesn't matter much.

    There is a certain anguish for longtime BB loyalists who are torn by equal parts attraction (in the form factor) and revulsion (in the alien OS). But even there, as someone who has recently bought a Classic and two Passports, it can't fairly be said that BB hasn't offered anything new or retro-novel for us diehards. Chen has gone out of his way to deny the Priv is an act of desperation and BB continues to hang in there. The segment remains extremely volatile, despite the current stasis at the dominant top tier. Things can change in unexpected ways. If you are instead a gloomy skeptic, I'd rather throw a Hail Mary than take a knee and run out the clock when trailing. Let's see if anyone's there to catch the pass before heading for the showers.
    sbtpdx likes this.
    10-01-2015 01:06 AM
  10. Guytronic's Avatar
    I don't know, but if you loathe a physical keyboard and hate the look of the device, maybe it's not for you. Maybe you aren't the targeted audience for the Priv. So if you have achieved transcendent perfection on a touchscreen and have pushed beyond the boundaries of theoretical productivity on a touchscreen smartphone, you should stick with that rather than buying a Priv under belligerent protest and stubbornly refusing to ever deploy the slider keyboard. I think the Priv as is, is an interesting experiment that's already drawn some interest. That you or I as individuals might not like it doesn't matter much.

    There is a certain anguish for longtime BB loyalists who are torn by equal parts attraction (in the form factor) and revulsion (in the alien OS). But even there, as someone who has recently bought a Classic and two Passports, it can't fairly be said that BB hasn't offered anything new or retro-novel for us diehards. Chen has gone out of his way to deny the Priv is an act of desperation and BB continues to hang in there. The segment remains extremely volatile, despite the current stasis at the dominant top tier. Things can change in unexpected ways. If you are instead a gloomy skeptic, I'd rather throw a Hail Mary than take a knee and run out the clock when trailing. Let's see if anyone's there to catch the pass before heading for the showers.
    Who is this retort directed at?
    10-01-2015 02:11 AM
  11. Jazmac's Avatar
    Not for me. This reminds me of the Kyocera Echo pushed by Sprint a few years ago. I don't care for anything about this design and I prefer virtual keys to old school vintage push button desk phone buttons. I'd get the Amazon Fire phone before I'd get this one.
    Guytronic and libra89 like this.
    10-01-2015 02:16 AM
  12. BryanVilla's Avatar
    Y'all gripe about the physical keyboard but (a) the physical keyboard is touch sensitive, bold, and useful to many enterprise customers and (b) you can still use the touch screen keyboard... it's not magically gone.
    fatclue_98 and sbtpdx like this.
    10-01-2015 04:40 AM
  13. adkrish22290's Avatar
    Phones with slider keyboard is so late 2000s. I would stay away from such a phone, whether it is a WP device or a Lagdroid nonsense.
    10-01-2015 05:06 AM
  14. libra89's Avatar
    Y'all gripe about the physical keyboard but (a) the physical keyboard is touch sensitive, bold, and useful to many enterprise customers and (b) you can still use the touch screen keyboard... it's not magically gone.
    Enterprise customers also can use company iphones though, but I guess I understand your point.
    10-01-2015 08:21 AM
  15. Bagzton's Avatar
    I can't be changing flex in 2015/16 please (for a slide-out physical keyboard.)
    libra89 likes this.
    10-01-2015 08:48 AM
  16. Richpl's Avatar
    Physical keyboards have had their time. Touch screens have advanced so much that drag texting is now a thing.
    10-01-2015 10:02 AM
  17. pallentx's Avatar
    I think it looks great, but I don't want it. I hope there is a place in the market for niche devices like this. I really hope it does well to encourage OEMs to experiment more. I applaud BB for being willing to get creative and try new things and I really hope it pays off for them.
    10-01-2015 11:39 AM
  18. Kiddo2050's Avatar
    Uou don't need protective cases with Blackberrys I've had many and even thrown them across the room in anger (not at the phone haha) and zero problem. They know hardware. They should have switched to android long ago.
    10-01-2015 11:44 AM
  19. JustinSalvato's Avatar
    The Priv is a nice looking phone. If I were to go Android full-time, this would be the phone to do it as long as it was pure Android or at least, not skinned. Some are complaining that the keyboard adds weight and thickness... Geezus people, it is clear that this phone is thin. Weight? How weak are you? Does bringing a slice of pizza to your mouth exhaust you?

    As for the Dell Venue Pro, that phone failed because it was hard to get. You could only get it from Dell's website and not many people knew about it. Dell themselves did little to advertise it and their customer service didn't even know they sold a phone!! I know because I called them several times; I used a DVP for almost 3 years.
    10-01-2015 12:23 PM
  20. hardly_here's Avatar
    I loved my PalmPre with the PKB. Given the choice I would love to get a phone with PKB (I hate smudges). All that apart Lumia 950 and 950XL cant be it?! There has to be something better, something more. No? Are they throwing all their innovation into HaloLens and Surface, that they have nothing left for the Phones?! I will be disappointed if this was it for the Phones for this year.
    10-01-2015 12:28 PM
  21. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Have any of the PKB bashers here ever used a BlackBerry keyboard? I don't mean for a few minutes at a store, I mean used one to the point of knowing the shortcuts available. Has anybody here ever used the Passport's keyboard?

    If you're going to bash, please have the courtesy to be informed.
    10-01-2015 12:38 PM
  22. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Have any of the PKB bashers here ever used a BlackBerry keyboard? I don't mean for a few minutes at a store, I mean used one to the point of knowing the shortcuts available. Has anybody here ever used the Passport's keyboard?

    If you're going to bash, please have the courtesy to be informed.
    I used a 9000 and a 9700 from 2009-early 2012. After being away from it for 3 years, I wouldn't go back.
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    10-01-2015 01:00 PM
  23. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I used a 9000 and a 9700 from 2009-early 2012. After being away from it for 3 years, I wouldn't go back.
    I'd feel the same if I was limited to a 2.4" non-touch device. Fact is, unless Google or BlackBerry comes up with a better word prediction engine, Windows Phone users shouldn't feel the need to switch. This phone could hurt WP sales but not because of the keyboard. There are glass-tappers out there who'll never be convinced to use a PKB and that's cool. But I have an issue with people calling something archaic or garbage before it's even been released or with zero prior experience.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    10-01-2015 01:16 PM
  24. sbtpdx's Avatar
    As for the Dell Venue Pro, that phone failed because it was hard to get. You could only get it from Dell's website and not many people knew about it.
    Seriously! I had no idea the Venue Pro existed until I read this thread today. Had I been aware, I'd have jumped for it.

    I finally bailed on my beloved Torch a year ago when the screen became too small for my aging eyes. At the time, BB's promises re: the Passport were unreliable. I've had a Lumia 830 since then. But for the inexcusable failure if MS and AT&T to release full Denim, I've been ok with the move to WP. But I HATE the lack of a physical keyboard!!!

    At least for my fingers, and even with swiping, a message of any length (like this one) takes me at least 2-3 x longer than it did with my old slider. And my error rate is FAR higher.

    I'm intrigued by the new BB, but am skeptical about the use of Android. Like several of you above, though, I'm glad BB is still trying. I would love to go back "home" again someday!
    Last edited by sbtpdx; 10-01-2015 at 01:58 PM. Reason: typo correction- see.. i really DO need that PKB!
    Laura Knotek and JRF_1986 like this.
    10-01-2015 01:56 PM
  25. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Seriously! I had no idea the Venue Pro existed until I read this thread today. Had I been aware, I'd have jumped for it.

    I finally bailed on my beloved Torch a year ago when the screen became too small for my aging eyes. At the time, BB's promises re: the Passport were unreliable. I've had a Lumia 830 since then. But for the inexcusable failure if MS and AT&T to release full Denim, I've been ok with the move to WP. But I HATE the lack of a physical keyboard!!!

    At least for my fingers, and even with swiping, a message of any length (like this one) takes me at least 2-3 x longer than it did with my old slider. And my error rate is FAR higher.

    I'm intrigued by the new BB, but am skeptical about the use of Android. Like several of you above, though, I'm glad BB is still trying. I would love to go back "home" again someday!
    I'd feel the same if I was limited to a 2.4" non-touch device. Fact is, unless Google or BlackBerry comes up with a better word prediction engine, Windows Phone users shouldn't feel the need to switch. This phone could hurt WP sales but not because of the keyboard. There are glass-tappers out there who'll never be convinced to use a PKB and that's cool. But I have an issue with people calling something archaic or garbage before it's even been released or with zero prior experience.
    Since the Priv is an Android device, one could also use SwiftKey, which I'm using now.

    Sent from my Moto X using Tapatalk
    10-01-2015 02:18 PM
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