640: Budget Phone Durability Champion
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rhapdog
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Re: 640 beats the iPhone
That's why some companies make a lot of money selling "water/salt water proof phone bags" where you can still use them (with degraded audio quality) while in the bag.
However, I did used to own a Samsung Rugby 2 flip phone, and it went through the washing machine and dryer with no ill effects. Dropped it into the deep end of a salt-water swimming pool once, and realized it 10 minutes later. Dove it and got it, flipped it open and used it. Worked fine. You just don't get true waterproofing with modern smart phones as of this point in time.
That's why some companies make a lot of money selling "water/salt water proof phone bags" where you can still use them (with degraded audio quality) while in the bag.
However, I did used to own a Samsung Rugby 2 flip phone, and it went through the washing machine and dryer with no ill effects. Dropped it into the deep end of a salt-water swimming pool once, and realized it 10 minutes later. Dove it and got it, flipped it open and used it. Worked fine. You just don't get true waterproofing with modern smart phones as of this point in time.
Krystianpants
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Re: 640 beats the iPhone
Honestly MS should have sent out black units. Most people agree with the way it's designed the black looks best since the cover is under the screen. At least most I've spoken to in person. You need to see both side by side.
Honestly MS should have sent out black units. Most people agree with the way it's designed the black looks best since the cover is under the screen. At least most I've spoken to in person. You need to see both side by side.
Giddora
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Re: 640 beats the iPhone
Certain manufacturers also state that you are not supposed to touch buttons or even have the phone started under water. It's just a pointer that it might be more sturdy when it comes to accidental water or dust "happenings".
N_LaRUE
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Re: 640 beats the iPhone
I'm guessing you no longer have that phone...
Salt water is very corrosive and not much has the ability to withstand it. Trust me on that. That phone would eventually corrode if not rinsed properly. Copper and salt water are not good friends.
I'm guessing you no longer have that phone...
Salt water is very corrosive and not much has the ability to withstand it. Trust me on that. That phone would eventually corrode if not rinsed properly. Copper and salt water are not good friends.
N_LaRUE
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Re: 640 beats the iPhone
True. Most say you can use them for a period of time underwater or be able to rinse them but in general it is for accidental drop in water or left in the rain. Which is the whole point of IP68 in the first place. IP ratings are not meant for consistent usage in that condition only protection against it. That's why they are tested under conditions to a point why there are recommendations of usage.
Usually if something is on when in water you need to dry it out afterwards before normal usage again.
True. Most say you can use them for a period of time underwater or be able to rinse them but in general it is for accidental drop in water or left in the rain. Which is the whole point of IP68 in the first place. IP ratings are not meant for consistent usage in that condition only protection against it. That's why they are tested under conditions to a point why there are recommendations of usage.
Usually if something is on when in water you need to dry it out afterwards before normal usage again.
Re: 640 beats the iPhone
I wrote a whole thing about how the 640xl is the most durable smartphone i have owned. I have owned a few.
http://forums.windowscentral.com/microsoft-lumia-640-xl/405478-640xl-durability.html
I wrote a whole thing about how the 640xl is the most durable smartphone i have owned. I have owned a few.
http://forums.windowscentral.com/microsoft-lumia-640-xl/405478-640xl-durability.html
Re: 640 beats the iPhone
The screen protector does help when it falls flat on its face onto concrete. That all i use.
Re: 640 beats the iPhone
Very clickbait title there, man. The 640 beat the iPhone in being dropped, but not being bent, so that's basically a tie. The video was about testing the budget phones anyway, not the iPhone. Seems like a Microsoft pandering thread that's been created.
But, it's nice to see the durability on it stand out. I wonder what makes it so durable, beyond having bendable, cheap plastic.
Very clickbait title there, man. The 640 beat the iPhone in being dropped, but not being bent, so that's basically a tie. The video was about testing the budget phones anyway, not the iPhone. Seems like a Microsoft pandering thread that's been created.
But, it's nice to see the durability on it stand out. I wonder what makes it so durable, beyond having bendable, cheap plastic.
rhapdog
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Re: 640 beats the iPhone
That happened about 5 years ago. I finally got rid of the phone last year as a gift to someone that needed it. The phone was in perfect working order still.
I did rinse it when I got back to the hotel room. No biggy. It did advertise that it could handle sustained submersion in salt water for 30 minutes up to a depth of 3 meters. It tested well on my end. It had a special nano-coating on all the circuitry to prevent the salt water from coming in direct contact with anything except the outside of the case.
Phone was basically good only as a phone, though. Even texting was a pain, but it was a good "phone" if all you needed was to make phone calls.
That happened about 5 years ago. I finally got rid of the phone last year as a gift to someone that needed it. The phone was in perfect working order still.
I did rinse it when I got back to the hotel room. No biggy. It did advertise that it could handle sustained submersion in salt water for 30 minutes up to a depth of 3 meters. It tested well on my end. It had a special nano-coating on all the circuitry to prevent the salt water from coming in direct contact with anything except the outside of the case.
Phone was basically good only as a phone, though. Even texting was a pain, but it was a good "phone" if all you needed was to make phone calls.
Jack Neill
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Re: 640 beats the iPhone
My 640 was saved by a tempered glass when it took a digger in my driveway. Very glad I had a glass on it. that was back when they were 79.99 and not 29.99 LOL
My 640 was saved by a tempered glass when it took a digger in my driveway. Very glad I had a glass on it. that was back when they were 79.99 and not 29.99 LOL
Re: 640 beats the iPhone
Very impressive for the 640. The irony here is that I bought the 640 at its low $30 price point so that I wouldn't fret about breaking it, but it turns out it takes a beating like a champ.
Very impressive for the 640. The irony here is that I bought the 640 at its low $30 price point so that I wouldn't fret about breaking it, but it turns out it takes a beating like a champ.
TheChazas
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N_LaRUE
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Re: 640 beats the iPhone
It's still ?99 here in the UK. Completely absurd. They seem to be selling them cheap as chips in the US but in their main markets they're expensive as hell.
It's still ?99 here in the UK. Completely absurd. They seem to be selling them cheap as chips in the US but in their main markets they're expensive as hell.
N_LaRUE
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Re: 640 beats the iPhone
Ah I didn't look into the phone and didn't realise it could handle salt water. Interesting. That's different.
Typically though, phones or any electronics (or steel, copper, etc) doesn't survive well around salt water. It's not just the water but the salt water spray can corrode items for quite a distance from the ocean/sea if you live near it.
You'd be surprised how even 316 stainless steel corrodes from salt spray with extended exposure. There's a reason why things are rated 'marine grade'.
Ah I didn't look into the phone and didn't realise it could handle salt water. Interesting. That's different.
Typically though, phones or any electronics (or steel, copper, etc) doesn't survive well around salt water. It's not just the water but the salt water spray can corrode items for quite a distance from the ocean/sea if you live near it.
You'd be surprised how even 316 stainless steel corrodes from salt spray with extended exposure. There's a reason why things are rated 'marine grade'.
TheChazas
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rhapdog
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Re: 640 beats the iPhone
If you want something that doesn't corrode from salt water at all, I'd suggest pure gold with zero impurities. It won't rust.
Absolutely. Also a reason 'marine grade' is more expensive.
If you want something that doesn't corrode from salt water at all, I'd suggest pure gold with zero impurities. It won't rust.
N_LaRUE
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Re: 640 beats the iPhone
There are higher levels of stainless steel (known as duplex stainless steel, there are different grades) available for use around salt water, not as expensive as pure gold but certainly not cheap either!
Absolutely. Also a reason 'marine grade' is more expensive.
If you want something that doesn't corrode from salt water at all, I'd suggest pure gold with zero impurities. It won't rust.
There are higher levels of stainless steel (known as duplex stainless steel, there are different grades) available for use around salt water, not as expensive as pure gold but certainly not cheap either!
rhapdog
Retired Senior Ambassador
Re: 640 beats the iPhone
As someone who actually did freelance, contract quality control for a couple of steel manufacturing plants, you don't have to get those details out for my benefit. I could probably teach classes. Lord, I've had too many specialties in my life. It was fun to use the mass spectrometer on my lunch one time.
The derail express seems to have arrived. I'll stop.
As someone who actually did freelance, contract quality control for a couple of steel manufacturing plants, you don't have to get those details out for my benefit. I could probably teach classes. Lord, I've had too many specialties in my life. It was fun to use the mass spectrometer on my lunch one time.
The derail express seems to have arrived. I'll stop.
Matt Dargis
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Re: 640 beats the iPhone
Misleading thread title FTW.
But yes, my 640 XL had taken some drops and just plopped apart, no damage. After having a 928 (3 of them) and Icon (just 1), both of which broke on the first fall.
Still skip a heartbeat every time a phone slips out of my hands.
Misleading thread title FTW.
But yes, my 640 XL had taken some drops and just plopped apart, no damage. After having a 928 (3 of them) and Icon (just 1), both of which broke on the first fall.
Still skip a heartbeat every time a phone slips out of my hands.
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