05-28-2016 03:02 AM
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  1. isicles's Avatar
    Dear Friends,

    I am looking to buy a new w10 phone. Could you please suggest me which one to go for?

    I have previously used 1520 & 1020.

    I am getting confused whether to buy 950 or wait for HP elite x3?

    Why 950 is better then lower end mobile like 530 or 630 etc? All get the latest windows update (Insider preview builds).

    Please give your views.
    05-24-2016 04:47 AM
  2. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    Dear Friends,

    I am looking to buy a new w10 phone. Could you please suggest me which one to go for?

    I have previously used 1520 & 1020.

    I am getting confused whether to buy 950 or wait for HP elite x3?

    Why 950 is better then lower end mobile like 530 or 630 etc? All get the latest windows update (Insider preview builds).

    Please give your views.
    hp elite x3 isn't released yet, will most likely be expensive, will most likely be for certain countries only and not available to general consumers
    950 is better because it has a better camera, camera button, expandable storage, continuum feature, windows hello and other benefits
    05-24-2016 04:52 AM
  3. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    Dear Friends,

    I am looking to buy a new w10 phone. Could you please suggest me which one to go for?

    I have previously used 1520 & 1020.

    I am getting confused whether to buy 950 or wait for HP elite x3?

    Why 950 is better then lower end mobile like 530 or 630 etc? All get the latest windows update (Insider preview builds).

    Please give your views.
    Simply 950 is like a Lamborghini, and 530 a Tata :P
    All both drinks gasoline, but guess the difference :D
    aximtreo likes this.
    05-24-2016 04:54 AM
  4. isicles's Avatar
    Yes thats true. But i really think new phone would be on the way soon with finger print sensor and 950 would be out dated.

    Better to wait or buy now?
    05-24-2016 06:16 AM
  5. libra89's Avatar
    Yes thats true. But i really think new phone would be on the way soon with finger print sensor and 950 would be out dated.

    Better to wait or buy now?
    I think it's going to take a good while before the 950 is outdated. Do you have to wait or are you just considering doing it? As in is your current phone dying? In my short experience, W10M runs better with 1 gb ram, 512 mb just isn't the business.
    aximtreo and Jamar Wright like this.
    05-24-2016 07:34 AM
  6. nmercy's Avatar
    What phone are you coming from?
    It depends on if you can wait, if you can wait a year (assuming you can't buy a new phone in a year again), I would wait for the 2017 offering... or if I needed a phone right now get the cheapest one that can run W10m and see what MS does next year.
    I ended up getting a 735 (Verizon) when my 8x was dying and the 950's weren't coming to Verizon, as it wasn't that much more expensive than the lowest model Verizon offered and gave me performance akin to my old 8x... but that was a few months before the 950's came out...
    libra89 likes this.
    05-24-2016 09:44 AM
  7. EspHack's Avatar
    if you wait a bit I'm sure you can get a 950 for less than 300$ new on ebay, prices are going down and they will keep going down, last time I saw it selling for 385$ brand new, and phones like the icon 1520 920 etc have apparently hit rock bottom, because they all cost the same on ebay, like that's the actual production cost and they cant realistically go lower, just lol :P
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    05-24-2016 02:41 PM
  8. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    From Swappa Price.
    05-24-2016 04:05 PM
  9. steve_w_7's Avatar
    Get an iPhone.
    Jack Neill likes this.
    05-24-2016 08:11 PM
  10. Ma Rio's Avatar
    If your 1520 still works, then I'd suggest holding on to it. I have a 1520 and I think the 950 XL is not an upgrade. It's more expensive, and doesn't bring anything important, only some gimicky features for kids.
    If you have no phone, then go for it, why not.
    As for the HP Elite x3, that's a business device and you'll probably have a HARD time getting your hands on it. Plus it's gonna be quite expensive, and it's basicly the same as the 950 XL.
    There's not much going on in the Win10M world right now. If you want a budget device, I suggest the L640, a midrange would be a 640 XL, and a flagship would be the 950 XL.
    v535 likes this.
    05-24-2016 11:13 PM
  11. worldspy99's Avatar
    Get an iPhone.
    Which one? Plus he specifically asked about a WP...
    05-25-2016 12:37 AM
  12. Adjaero Pascal's Avatar
    Elite X3 FTW. Last windows phone I had was the 1520(since September 2015). My 640 comes tomorrow, I'll use it to see how things are going with w10m. I believe the HP would be between $600-700 and would probably be out at the end of June or July. Pretty sure you could also buy it online directly from her HP.
    Caution: all information provided are directly from HP reps and are not 100% guaranteed to be correct :p

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    05-25-2016 01:02 AM
  13. zocster's Avatar
    Elite X3 FTW. Last windows phone I had was the 1520(since September 2015). My 640 comes tomorrow, I'll use it to see how things are going with w10m. I believe the HP would be between $600-700 and would probably be out at the end of June or July. Pretty sure you could also buy it online directly from her HP.
    Caution: all information provided are directly from HP reps and are not 100% guaranteed to be correct :p

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    Nice info. I think hp is another company that would be able to do timely distribution. I would expect to see them here down southern hemisphere in August.
    05-25-2016 02:28 AM
  14. isicles's Avatar
    Thank you all for some good advices.

    Never an iPhone. :-)

    My 1520 is kept somewhere in the cupboard. will take out and check if it is working or dead.

    If working will wait for 2017 offerings else will either take 950 or wait a month for elite x3. Guess running out of options :-)
    Chintan Gohel and krishna T like this.
    05-25-2016 02:49 AM
  15. Giddora's Avatar
    Come on now... The 950XL is a big upgrade from the 1520.

    More LTE-bands, Cat6 support, smaller, lighter, better screen, higher resolution, GG4, much faster SoC, better graphical performance, higher MicroSD support, more RAM, better cameras, more modern Bluetooth stack, updated gps stack, usb-c, iris-scanner (perfect during Winter), barometer, continuum, fast charging.
    jlzimmerman and TgeekB like this.
    05-25-2016 05:26 AM
  16. isicles's Avatar
    Come on now... The 950XL is a big upgrade from the 1520.

    More LTE-bands, Cat6 support, smaller, lighter, better screen, higher resolution, GG4, much faster SoC, better graphical performance, higher MicroSD support, more RAM, better cameras, more modern Bluetooth stack, updated gps stack, usb-c, iris-scanner (perfect during Winter), barometer, continuum, fast charging.
    Hi Giddora,

    950 XL is definitely an upgraded version of windows phone.

    But with Snapdragon 820 already available & no fingerprint scanner shouldnt we expect new phones to be launched?

    Yes i know 810 & 820 not vast difference in terms of performance to end users, it is policy of microsoft to confuse us. No fixed release cycle or pattern. Eg 1320 upgraded to 1520, 920 to 925 to 930 to 950 but no successors for 1020.

    950 is already about 6-9 month old. I wouldnt want to buy a high end phone and in a month realise new & updated available.
    v535 likes this.
    05-25-2016 06:46 AM
  17. dlalonde's Avatar
    I'm not trolling or anything and I don't want to start a big debate. But for now, I wouldn't advise anyone to get a Windows 10 Mobile phone. If you need a new phone right now, get an Android phone and wait a bit until MS gets its act together, if they ever do. You can still use MS' services if you like them until then but I wouldn't spend my money on a Microsoft platform for now. If I could tell myself that two months ago, I'd be happy.
    05-25-2016 06:53 AM
  18. isicles's Avatar
    I'm not trolling or anything and I don't want to start a big debate. But for now, I wouldn't advise anyone to get a Windows 10 Mobile phone. If you need a new phone right now, get an Android phone and wait a bit until MS gets its act together, if they ever do. You can still use MS' services if you like them until then but I wouldn't spend my money on a Microsoft platform for now. If I could tell myself that two months ago, I'd be happy.
    Hi,

    I do understand what you mean. My brain says buy Android but for some reason i do not feel like quitting windows platform yet.

    Thanks
    dlalonde and v535 like this.
    05-25-2016 07:03 AM
  19. dlalonde's Avatar
    Hi,

    I do understand what you mean. My brain says buy Android but for some reason i do not feel like quitting windows platform yet.

    Thanks
    Then I'd look for a 640. They're cheap, well made and W10M runs super smoothly on it.
    Jack Neill likes this.
    05-25-2016 07:22 AM
  20. v535's Avatar
    Hi,

    I do understand what you mean. My brain says buy Android but for some reason i do not feel like quitting windows platform yet.

    Thanks
    You could install w10 on 1520 and wait until Surface Phone or whatever new line-ups MS refreshes in 2017. You are already familiar by now, that WP doesn't need big monstrous specs to run, so the experience after upgrading to 950XL wouldn't be noticeable aside from features, though.
    05-25-2016 07:42 AM
  21. steve_w_7's Avatar
    My 1520 is kept somewhere in the cupboard. will take out and check if it is working or dead.
    It will be dead -- haven't you been reading the news? ;)
    EspHack likes this.
    05-25-2016 11:07 AM
  22. RobinPaul's Avatar
    That's why i bought a Microsoft Lumia 650 for 200 euros, my main device is a Samasung Galaxy S6 Edge, but i wanted to see what Microsoft offered so I bought the 650 and will wait for the Surface Phone.
    05-25-2016 11:45 AM
  23. Ma Rio's Avatar
    Come on now... The 950XL is a big upgrade from the 1520.

    More LTE-bands, Cat6 support, smaller, lighter, better screen, higher resolution, GG4, much faster SoC, better graphical performance, higher MicroSD support, more RAM, better cameras, more modern Bluetooth stack, updated gps stack, usb-c, iris-scanner (perfect during Winter), barometer, continuum, fast charging.
    Literally everything you mentioned there is worth nothing to the average consumer.
    More LTE-bands - from what I see (and you can't see much about that), they both support the following bands: 850Mhz, 900Mhz, 1800Mhz, 1900Mhz, 2100Mhz, 2600Mhz, HSDPA, LTE
    And if you really need any other band, then IDK, you probably live on mars.
    Cat6 - umm, what? Where can you plug in a cat6 cable in your phone? I'm guessing from the dock, but even then, that's not something that's made for widespread use, only some will find use in it.
    Smaller, lighter - well yep, and I like my display bigger. 6'' > 5.7''. So, again, for me, not an upgrade.
    Better screen - only more pixels, which is a downside if you ask me. Quite a big one. You don't need that many pixels, and it only drains the battery.
    GG4 - well, yep, that's good.
    Much faster SoC - not really. SD 800 vs 810 is not a big difference. Not to mention SD 800 is already really fast, so you're buying nothing.
    Better graphical performance - same as above, I never found my 1520 lacking performance, it's a top end device, what can you do on your phone that requires strong graphics.
    Higher MicroSD - I don't think so. I think both devices support any MicroSD card there is. And come on, who's gonna spend a fortune on a 200GB SD card?
    More RAM - same as above, I've never found my 1520 lacking memory. Even if you multitask like no other the system manages it well and you won't fill up those 2 GBs.
    Better cameras - I think they're using the same camera as on the ICON (930) / 1520. I've heard they've made some improvements, I've never heard anything else other than that. And once again, the 1520's camera is good enough (the only problem is the current app which outputs horrible pictures).
    Improved Bluetooth - isn't that a software thing? I could be completely wrong here, so don't hold me on that one, but I don't think it's actually some huge improvement on the chip.
    GPS - never heard anything about that, and I feel the same goes for GPS as for Bluetooth.
    USB-C - yes it's nice, but no real advantage to it (other than it's reversible). It's even a problem for now, since there's not too many devices that support USB-C.
    Iris scanner - goes under the gimicky feature. Fingerprint scanners, iris scanners.. all that stuff, it has almost no real world usage. Maybe in 20 years though.
    Barometer - really?
    Fast charging - yep, that's a good thing.

    And as for Continuum, I can't lie, that's a big thing, but for me personally it's useless. It still isn't what it's supposed to be, and even then it's just going to be an improved 'project your phone'. I've never done something like that in my life to be honest. And I barely see why you would need such a thing. I kinda get what MS is trying to achieve here, but IMO out of the whole 3% Win10M market share, only like 10% - 15% are Continuum enabled devices, and out of those 10% - 15% I think 85% won't even use it. So you're basicly gonna have like 7 people in the world who are going to use it.
    That's just my oppinion about it.
    For you, it may be a decent upgrade, but for me, it's far far far from it, because most of the 'improvements' are just on paper. Not to mention my 1520 is gorgeous, and the 950XL is.. not really. We'll see about that Surface Phone, though.
    EspHack likes this.
    05-25-2016 11:47 AM
  24. Krystianpants's Avatar
    I would wait for the HP elite X3. It's apparently going to be priced at around 599 with no accessories. And the snapdragon 820 on it is worthy of that price. It's expected June or July so not that much of a wait if you want it. I love my 950XL but honestly I would likely prefer the HP elite X3. I'm sure the camera won't be as good on the Elite but most cameras are honestly good enough unless you are really a pro. Most people just want to see pictures, they don't look at the tiny miniscule details that they compare in tests.
    05-25-2016 12:21 PM
  25. EspHack's Avatar
    I don't think w10m is aware of how the sd810 might be faster than sd800, yet, and no the cameras are not the same as 1520-930, they have that "turn night into day" level of low light badassery like the 920-925-928 did, microSD I'm pretty sure any modern phone will accept up to 2tb as the standard says, but you know, this is wp, it might be possible good'old ms made higher capacity sd cards unreadable for some absurd software gibberish

    everything else about the 950's is more of the same now with cheap clothing
    iris login CAN be a gimmicky or a lovable unique feature like glance and double tap, you know, that thing you will never forgive Microsoft for removing
    05-25-2016 02:37 PM
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