1. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I returned mine. Right now I am just not in any financial position to be paying off a device over time.

    In the meantime I will enjoy my paid off 950 and just wait it out to see what happens in the new year regarding more makers releasing new devices .
    I may be doing the same. I'm grandfathered into the old Jump On Demand so I might try out something else. I have no interest in iPhones or Galaxies. I have a G5 laying around doing nothing since my Passport has every app I need so I might try out the Gear S2 to compare with my Band 2.

    When a "dead" OS like BlackBerry 10 offers more apps than Windows, it requires some thought. Whether they're ported Android apps or not isn't relevant, the fact they work and are up to date is.
    11-27-2016 05:27 PM
  2. Kacchan's Avatar

    When a "dead" OS like BlackBerry 10 offers more apps than Windows, it requires some thought. Whether they're ported Android apps or not isn't relevant, the fact they work and are up to date is.
    Its quite relevant considering the fact it is an unfair comparison. Bb10 has ported android apps..windows doesn't. Natively speaking windows has it beat and given BlackBerry android stance i don't see how anyone can voluntarily support bb10 while condemning and criticizing windows phone.

    Im just thankful for now we don't have the android porting on Windows phone.
    11-29-2016 05:23 PM
  3. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Its quite relevant considering the fact it is an unfair comparison. Bb10 has ported android apps..windows doesn't. Natively speaking windows has it beat and given BlackBerry android stance i don't see how anyone can voluntarily support bb10 while condemning and criticizing windows phone.

    Im just thankful for now we don't have the android porting on Windows phone.
    So you don't mind that the "native" Facebook and Messenger apps on Windows Mobile are ported iOS apps.
    11-29-2016 05:37 PM
  4. TgeekB's Avatar
    I may be doing the same. I'm grandfathered into the old Jump On Demand so I might try out something else. I have no interest in iPhones or Galaxies. I have a G5 laying around doing nothing since my Passport has every app I need so I might try out the Gear S2 to compare with my Band 2.

    When a "dead" OS like BlackBerry 10 offers more apps than Windows, it requires some thought. Whether they're ported Android apps or not isn't relevant, the fact they work and are up to date is.
    BB10 is no longer being developed. Sure, there may be one more security update but that's it. The R&D department turned off the lights when they left.
    On the other hand, I get regular updates for my 950. Heck I even get to give them my two cents since I'm in the insider program. The app situation isn't great, but I get by just fine.
    Bottom line is you have to decide what your needs are and decide from there.

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    11-29-2016 06:07 PM
  5. fatclue_98's Avatar
    BB10 is no longer being developed. Sure, there may be one more security update but that's it. The R&D department turned off the lights when they left.
    On the other hand, I get regular updates for my 950. Heck I even get to give them my two cents since I'm in the insider program. The app situation isn't great, but I get by just fine.
    Bottom line is you have to decide what your needs are and decide from there.

    Sent from mTalk
    Really? I just got a BBM update an hour ago. BB10 version 10.3.3 will be dropping "soon" and an entirely new Enterprise Software program is just getting off the ground as I write this.

    Just like Nadella is re re re focusing Windows Mobile for the corporate world, so is Chen with Blackberry. And I'm not talking about Android 'Berrys either.
    11-29-2016 06:20 PM
  6. TgeekB's Avatar
    Really? I just got a BBM update an hour ago. BB10 version 10.3.3 will be dropping "soon" and an entirely new Enterprise Software program is just getting off the ground as I write this.

    Just like Nadella is re re re focusing Windows Mobile for the corporate world, so is Chen with Blackberry. And I'm not talking about Android 'Berrys either.
    I'm glad you put soon in quotes, because it's been coming soon for quite a while! Blackberry is developing into a software company because BB10 failed. They should do quite well from that perspective.
    In the mean time we will enjoy our regular updates and development in Windows, awaiting the Surface phone which will hopefully arrive before BB 10.3.3 does. 😉

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    11-29-2016 06:53 PM
  7. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I'm glad you put soon in quotes, because it's been coming soon for quite a while! Blackberry is developing into a software company because BB10 failed. They should do quite well from that perspective.
    In the mean time we will enjoy our regular updates and development in Windows, awaiting the Surface phone which will hopefully arrive before BB 10.3.3 does. 

    Sent from mTalk

    You seem to forget that BlackBerry has many contracts in force that they have to honor. BB10 isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Next week they'll unveil the new software program that has Microsoft's enterprise market squarely in their cross-hairs. The longer Windows goes without a Good for Work app or native support, the slimmer their chances to make a real dent in the enterprise sector.
    11-29-2016 07:14 PM
  8. TgeekB's Avatar
    You seem to forget that BlackBerry has many contracts in force that they have to honor. BB10 isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Next week they'll unveil the new software program that has Microsoft's enterprise market squarely in their cross-hairs. The longer Windows goes without a Good for Work app or native support, the slimmer their chances to make a real dent in the enterprise sector.
    I've been using Blackberry devices since 2006, so I'm quite aware of their history as well as their conversion to a software company. Enjoy your BB device.

    Sent from mTalk
    11-29-2016 07:31 PM
  9. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I've been using Blackberry devices since 2006, so I'm quite aware of their history as well as their conversion to a software company. Enjoy your BB device.

    Sent from mTalk
    I enjoy all my devices, Windows included. What I don't do is blind myself to each platform's fallacies.
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    11-29-2016 07:44 PM
  10. Kacchan's Avatar
    So you don't mind that the "native" Facebook and Messenger apps on Windows Mobile are ported iOS apps.
    Compared to what blackberry has/Astoria no I don't mind.
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    11-30-2016 01:37 AM
  11. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Compared to what blackberry has/Astoria no I don't mind.
    I have full access to the Play Store. Astoria was cancelled by Microsoft due to piracy concerns - there is no Astoria. How do I have access to the Play Store? Because unlike Windows, OS10 has/had an active community that enabled it. I still am, and always will be, a fan of Windows Mobile. But don't even try to suggest the development is better than OS10 and its Android capabilities. While the Windows Store keeps losing apps, I'm enjoying fresh updates on apps long since abandoned by developers. Yeah, I'm enjoying my Passport and my WM phones and PCs. I'm sorry if I've committed some form of heresy by saying so but that's just the way it is. Burn the witch later, I'm busy right now making a fresh pot.
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    11-30-2016 03:50 PM
  12. libra89's Avatar
    I enjoy all my devices, Windows included. What I don't do is blind myself to each platform's fallacies.
    I honestly think this is the best way to go, and I generally try to take that advice for myself. It's impossible to go wrong with it. If that rumor of the small Blackberry phone actually comes to fruition, it could be fun to try.
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    11-30-2016 08:57 PM
  13. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I honestly think this is the best way to go, and I generally try to take that advice for myself. It's impossible to go wrong with it. If that rumor of the small Blackberry phone actually comes to fruition, it could be fun to try.
    If you're referring to the small-ish keyboard BlackBerry rumor, that one is running Android. OS10 is effectively dead on the consumer side of things with at least one more firmware update and a host of new enterprise apps coming. As long as the Android apps continue to support 4.3 Jelly Bean, it's still a viable option for those of us who prefer swipe gestures a la webOS. That and the most comprehensive notification center available on any platform.
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    11-30-2016 09:51 PM
  14. libra89's Avatar
    If you're referring to the small-ish keyboard BlackBerry rumor, that one is running Android. OS10 is effectively dead on the consumer side of things with at least one more firmware update and a host of new enterprise apps coming. As long as the Android apps continue to support 4.3 Jelly Bean, it's still a viable option for those of us who prefer swipe gestures a la webOS. That and the most comprehensive notification center available on any platform.
    That might be true but if this is it, I would love to try it! It looks kind of big though.

    https://twitter.com/CrackBerry/statu...35999771947008

    http://crackberry.com/could-be-first...-qwerty-device
    Last edited by libra89; 12-03-2016 at 03:33 PM. Reason: Added another link
    12-03-2016 02:48 PM
  15. fatclue_98's Avatar

    That is indeed the purported Mercury. It's only a 4-1/2" display (3:2 ratio) so it can't be that tall. Considering the display ratio, it would be shorter, albeit wider, than the 16:9 4" display of the iPhone SE. Because of the portrait qwerty, they had to go with a flatter aspect ratio otherwise the buttons would be unusable. I can't imagine this phone having a bigger footprint than a typical 5" slab.
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    12-03-2016 04:54 PM
  16. libra89's Avatar
    That is indeed the purported Mercury. It's only a 4-1/2" display (3:2 ratio) so it can't be that tall. Considering the display ratio, it would be shorter, albeit wider, than the 16:9 4" display of the iPhone SE. Because of the portrait qwerty, they had to go with a flatter aspect ratio otherwise the buttons would be unusable. I can't imagine this phone having a bigger footprint than a typical 5" slab.
    Interesting! I hope that you're right. Hopefully it wouldn't carry Priv pricing at launch.
    12-03-2016 05:11 PM
  17. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Interesting! I hope that you're right. Hopefully it wouldn't carry Priv pricing at launch.
    It'll probably be priced closer to the DTEK50 ($299) considering it has similar specs. Better camera though, I hope it's the same 18MP from the Priv with the Schneider-Hasenpfeffer (or whatever it's called) lens.
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    12-03-2016 09:17 PM

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