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  1. mary beth hale's Avatar
    I don't expect replies to this post. Really just venting. (For me) my phone is an expensive investment. I have been fortunate in that both of my phones while on windows have worked exceedingly well. They both happen to be from Samsung. I neither dislike phones from other manufacturers nor do I wish to "convert" anyone to the phone I use. I come to WPCentral and take part in the discussions because I want to learn how to best use my phone and share the things I have learned. Today's article on the new Samsung app and the venomous comments that followed were so off-putting. the Samsung bashing is nothing new but for some reason it really felt like the last straw for me. I will no longer read comments following any article with Samsung content. It also bothered me that the writer of the article felt it necessary to include the words "to keep up with Nokia" in the title. completely unnecessary.
    that being said, I sure am glad this forum exists and have learned a lot. thanks everyone.
    02-27-2014 06:35 PM
  2. anon(8150199)'s Avatar
    IMHO, Sammy just go half-assed with WP, make devices without any ads, if any
    02-27-2014 07:43 PM
  3. Matthew Becker1's Avatar
    It's also inaccurate, because Story Album was first made available on Samsung Galaxy S4 as part of their updated TouchWiz interface, which means that the app itself has been around since April 2013. I'm not sure how porting a 10 month old app to the ATIV S is to "keep up with Nokia," particularly since it predates the launch of their photography flagship, the 1020, by three months. To my understanding, Nokia's Storyteller is still in beta for Windows Phone. Who's keeping up with who here?
    Last edited by Matthew Becker1; 02-28-2014 at 09:54 PM.
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    02-28-2014 11:05 AM
  4. neo158's Avatar
    IMHO, Sammy just go half-assed with WP, make devices without any ads, if any
    Which means that the updates are released quicker so it's a trade off. They do add extra features but these are installed/updated via the store so updates for the phone and those features are quicker.

    Faster updates vs. More features, your choice!!
    Last edited by neo158; 02-28-2014 at 12:53 PM.
    02-28-2014 12:31 PM
  5. neo158's Avatar
    I don't expect replies to this post. Really just venting. (For me) my phone is an expensive investment. I have been fortunate in that both of my phones while on windows have worked exceedingly well. They both happen to be from Samsung. I neither dislike phones from other manufacturers nor do I wish to "convert" anyone to the phone I use. I come to WPCentral and take part in the discussions because I want to learn how to best use my phone and share the things I have learned. Today's article on the new Samsung app and the venomous comments that followed were so off-putting. the Samsung bashing is nothing new but for some reason it really felt like the last straw for me. I will no longer read comments following any article with Samsung content. It also bothered me that the writer of the article felt it necessary to include the words "to keep up with Nokia" in the title. completely unnecessary.
    that being said, I sure am glad this forum exists and have learned a lot. thanks everyone.
    Well put, it's not just Samsung users that are getting annoyed by it though as I noticed a lot of Nokia users are also getting annoyed by it as well ;-)
    02-28-2014 12:33 PM
  6. Matthew Becker1's Avatar
    Well put, it's not just Samsung users that are getting annoyed by it though as I noticed a lot of Nokia users are also getting annoyed by it as well ;-)
    True. I've noticed a fair bit of Lumia users commenting on the vile nature of these comments.
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    02-28-2014 01:34 PM
  7. anon(8150199)'s Avatar
    Which means that the updates are released quicker so it's a trade off. They do add extra features but these are installed/updated via the store so updates for the phone and those features are quicker.

    Faster updates vs. More features, your choice!!
    Over here the ATIV S is available but you won't ever see any ads for it, and Sammy just make countless ads for their Galaxies
    02-28-2014 08:27 PM
  8. anon(8150199)'s Avatar
    It's also kind of inaccurate, because Story Album was first made available on Samsung Galaxy S4 as part of their updated TouchWiz interface, which means that the app itself has been around since April 2013. I'm not sure how porting a 10 month old app to the ATIV S is to "keep up with Nokia."
    But how long has Sammy made Windows Phones? They should have ported it waaay earlier
    02-28-2014 08:29 PM
  9. Flagz's Avatar
    But how long has Sammy made Windows Phones? They should have ported it waaay earlier
    Sammys been making windows phones since the beggining. Its not the prime investment though. Nokia will push numerous updates and phones because its really all they have. Nokia won't bee keeping Nokia X alive with more updates than the Lumia series either (or so they say) because that's not their prime investment. Samsung has android and google likes it that way. I don't blame Samsung, they have premium windows phones and I don't mind being in second place with them. I'll buy any WP they put out. ALL premium. :)
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    02-28-2014 09:23 PM
  10. Matthew Becker1's Avatar
    But how long has Sammy made Windows Phones? They should have ported it waaay earlier
    If timing is the question, then we don't know why Samsung chose now to release the app for their ATIV S line. If they should have ported it "way earlier," they may have if the demand was high enough. But we don't know. It's as speculative as claiming that the app was ported to keep in pace with Nokia.
    neo158 likes this.
    02-28-2014 09:39 PM
  11. neo158's Avatar
    Over here the ATIV S is available but you won't ever see any ads for it, and Sammy just make countless ads for their Galaxies
    As others have stated, that is because Android is their focus just as Windows Phone is the primary focus for Nokia.

    My question is why certain Nokia users, we all know who they are, feel compelled to try converting non Nokia WP owners by using venomous comments on articles and, sometimes, the forums.
    Last edited by neo158; 03-03-2014 at 01:50 PM.
    03-01-2014 05:26 AM
  12. kingenu's Avatar
    agreed with the comments here, the Nokia owners do bash other phones A LOT, i have a lumia 925 and tbh it has flaws and i told my sister to get a ativ S, but the nokia people on here always seems to act like certain problems don't exist and question you before accepting there is a fault with the phone itself, it is pathetic and just makes nokia look bad a tad.
    03-01-2014 03:21 PM
  13. Angry_Mushroom's Avatar
    Yeah... The Samsung bashing is getting a bit silly. At least they've kept up with updates better than Nokia has with my Lumia 810. I have very high hopes for the Ativ SE, and sure as hell hope it'll be based on the S5.
    03-01-2014 04:08 PM
  14. neo158's Avatar
    Yeah... The Samsung bashing is getting a bit silly. At least they've kept up with updates better than Nokia has with my Lumia 810. I have very high hopes for the Ativ SE, and sure as hell hope it'll be based on the S5.
    Agreed, I think Samsung support their Windows Phone 8 devices way better than their Android ones e.g. my ATIV S has received all the updates so far from Samsung yet their Android devices get about one or two updates and then they scrap it for the next new device.

    What I like is that they only have a couple of WP devices on the market and don't add masses of features into their firmware, this makes it easier for them to be kept up to date compared to the Android devices they have.
    03-03-2014 07:03 AM
  15. mary beth hale's Avatar
    Got update for Samsung video trimmer today😊
    03-03-2014 09:40 AM
  16. neo158's Avatar
    Got update for Samsung video trimmer today
    That's the perfect example of support, Samsung Link should also have an update.
    03-03-2014 01:48 PM
  17. kingenu's Avatar
    i want one of this but can't seem to find it in the UK, (haven't got a card so can't order it)
    03-04-2014 06:05 AM
  18. anon4276835's Avatar
    Only, place is Amazon at the moment.
    03-04-2014 07:09 AM
  19. neo158's Avatar
    i want one of this but can't seem to find it in the UK, (haven't got a card so can't order it)
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-ATIV...pUvbUpU2386947

    There you go ;-)
    03-04-2014 10:54 AM
  20. OrangeBerry02's Avatar
    But did you see the price!! 350 for the cheapest new one (including delivery from Spain) up to 483! I'm glad to have bought a couple from Expansys last month for 179 ea. There must be somewhere in the EU that will sell cheaper ... didn't I see on another thread ref to 200 euros for a new phone?

    I do love my Ativ S but bearing in mind it's been around a bit now I don't think I'd have paid much more than I did.

    That said, Neo, you did find Ativ S's available in UK!

    All the best.
    03-05-2014 02:45 AM
  21. anon4276835's Avatar
    Apart from used, I don't think anybody has any available in the UK anymore.

    Glad I got mine for 179.00 as well from Expanys at the beginning of January, 2014.
    03-05-2014 04:04 AM
  22. Geo L's Avatar
    But did you see the price!! 350 for the cheapest new one (including delivery from Spain) up to 483! I'm glad to have bought a couple from Expansys last month for 179 ea. There must be somewhere in the EU that will sell cheaper ... didn't I see on another thread ref to 200 euros for a new phone?

    I do love my Ativ S but bearing in mind it's been around a bit now I don't think I'd have paid much more than I did.

    That said, Neo, you did find Ativ S's available in UK!

    All the best.
    Apart from used, I don't think anybody has any available in the UK anymore.

    Glad I got mine for 179.00 as well from Expanys at the beginning of January, 2014.
    I would say that the cheapest Ativ S available now is in Ireland, O2 has a clearance option €199, if anyone has O2 number will benefit of 20% discount, as I did.
    I think for €160 is not that bad, new and sealed.
    With the interop unlocked and third column added, it is perfect phone.
    03-05-2014 08:18 AM
  23. anon4276835's Avatar
    I would say that the cheapest Ativ S available now is in Ireland, O2 has a clearance option €199, if anyone has O2 number will benefit of 20% discount, as I did.
    I think for €160 is not that bad, new and sealed.
    With the interop unlocked and third column added, it is perfect phone.
    It seems they are out of stock now!

    Ativ S Special Offer
    03-05-2014 08:57 AM
  24. Geo L's Avatar
    It seems they are out of stock now!

    Ativ S Special Offer
    You are right, I did not see that, but yesterday was still available.
    Just now I came beck from city center, checked the O2 shop, (basically I wanted to switch back to O2 to get one more phone with 20% discount, but did not work) guess what, Ativ S is back on shelves with the price of €499. Unbelievable, who is gonna pay these money?
    Hopefully it will be back online soon.
    03-05-2014 09:53 AM
  25. neo158's Avatar
    You are right, I did not see that, but yesterday was still available.
    Just now I came beck from city center, checked the O2 shop, (basically I wanted to switch back to O2 to get one more phone with 20% discount, but did not work) guess what, Ativ S is back on shelves with the price of €499. Unbelievable, who is gonna pay these money?
    Hopefully it will be back online soon.
    It's now out of stock again on the website and it looks like it was €199 not €499 ;-)
    03-05-2014 10:07 AM
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