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  1. Dusan Randj's Avatar
    why dou you want to stick with the Ativ?

    You can buy a Lumia 640 for just 130euros. You will get LTE and WP10. Thats cheap and the performance will be a lil bit better because the 640 has a quad core CPU and thats always better then the dual core. Or wait for the new metal case Lumia 650. Looks good too. I dont see any good arguments to stick with Ativ S. Its a nice phone but its getting realy old now :-)
    640 isn't much better phone, if any. Under W10 Ativ S performs better than my 735, lag is smaller, animations are significantly faster and so on.
    Bigger internal memory, better screen, NFC. Rear Cameras are similar, Ativ's is maybe better a bit.
    It's still perfectly decent and capable phone.
    Tien-Lin Chang likes this.
    12-22-2015 02:02 PM
  2. kevcole1's Avatar
    Looks like IBT have published an official list of what
    Phones will be updated or not.

    Technology section
    12-22-2015 04:11 PM
  3. kevcole1's Avatar
    12-22-2015 04:12 PM
  4. anon(8316658)'s Avatar
    640 isn't much better phone, if any. Under W10 Ativ S performs better than my 735, lag is smaller, animations are significantly faster and so on.
    Bigger internal memory, better screen, NFC. Rear Cameras are similar, Ativ's is maybe better a bit.
    It's still perfectly decent and capable phone.
    i was comparing 640 vs Ativ S, not 735

    LTE and Quad core CPU + official WP10 support is a HUGE difference
    i have a lil lag on my new Lumia 950XL... so what? Does this mean that the Ativ will run WP10 smoother than the 950XL? :-D
    I dont need NFC.. but LTE is a must have for me. Internal memory for what? Games? Because anything else from music, videos or photos are uploaded to OneDrive... so I dont need a big internal memory. Whatever... Ativ S is a 2012 model, its time to move forward
    Boris NevermorE likes this.
    12-22-2015 05:22 PM
  5. Dusan Randj's Avatar
    i was comparing 640 vs Ativ S, not 735

    LTE and Quad core CPU + official WP10 support is a HUGE difference
    i have a lil lag on my new Lumia 950XL... so what? Does this mean that the Ativ will run WP10 smoother than the 950XL? :-D
    I dont need NFC.. but LTE is a must have for me. Internal memory for what? Games? Because anything else from music, videos or photos are uploaded to OneDrive... so I dont need a big internal memory. Whatever... Ativ S is a 2012 model, its time to move forward
    If you didn't know, 735 and 640 have same SoC, same amount of RAM. That's what I'm refering to.

    Who would even think Ativ will run 10 better than 950? Don't be funny.

    It's not about you not needing it. It's about it still having decent hardware for this platform and capable running 10 just fine. That's why people would like to still keep it.
    12-23-2015 02:03 AM
  6. megadragon998's Avatar
    why dou you want to stick with the Ativ?

    You can buy a Lumia 640 for just 130euros. You will get LTE and WP10. Thats cheap and the performance will be a lil bit better because the 640 has a quad core CPU and thats always better then the dual core. Or wait for the new metal case Lumia 650. Looks good too. I dont see any good arguments to stick with Ativ S. Its a nice phone but its getting realy old now :-)
    First of all in Balkan countries, 130 euros isn't any near to cheap (at least for average citizens like i am). And the second of all, i won't be getting Lumia 640 since i'm not really a huge fan of Win10 and Android/iOS have much brighter future regarding the MS apps.
    Tien-Lin Chang likes this.
    12-23-2015 06:51 AM
  7. megadragon998's Avatar
    Calm down guys, it's only a phone after all. I really don't think Ativ S is way outdated as Pappale said since i barely use cellular network and when i do, it does the job at a reasonable speed. Fingerprint scanner is a joke. I usually laugh at my friends when i see them trying to unlock their phones 50 times because their fingers are dirty. I was always more of a password guy anyway but that may be a personal preference. I would also like to note that some high end phones also don't have fingerprint scanner like LG G3 and HTC M8 and that didn't reduce their sales much AFAIK.
    12-24-2015 12:52 AM
  8. Toutencarton's Avatar
    If the moderator who deleted my post could at least PM me please...
    megadragon998 likes this.
    12-24-2015 01:29 PM
  9. Dusan Randj's Avatar
    Thank you guys for understanding and being reasonable.
    megadragon998 likes this.
    12-24-2015 01:52 PM
  10. Dave Velo's Avatar
    Paid $750 for my ATIV S and I'll continue to use it until it stops working. The upgrade to 8.1.2 hack was successful. Also, W10M is possible now on this phone.
    02-03-2016 02:27 AM
  11. megadragon998's Avatar
    Paid $750 for my ATIV S and I'll continue to use it until it stops working. The upgrade to 8.1.2 hack was successful. Also, W10M is possible now on this phone.
    Is it stable on w10m? It's getting laggy for me on 8.1 :/
    02-03-2016 07:21 AM
  12. Tien-Lin Chang's Avatar
    Not as smooth as 8.0 for sure, but after hard reset I feel there's no difference between 8.1 and w10m(10586.71). Small lag from time to time but got way nicer main screen and UWP support ability secure the near future of the device. Battery on stand by/light use is great, almost no app crash. I feel it's OK to use it as daily driver in current form. Just hoping the wave of UWP apps arrive soon.
    02-04-2016 01:53 AM
  13. megadragon998's Avatar
    Not as smooth as 8.0 for sure, but after hard reset I feel there's no difference between 8.1 and w10m(10586.71). Small lag from time to time but got way nicer main screen and UWP support ability secure the near future of the device. Battery on stand by/light use is great, almost no app crash. I feel it's OK to use it as daily driver in current form. Just hoping the wave of UWP apps arrive soon.
    Awesome, could you link me the guide you used to install? I'd really like to avoid bricking my daily driver
    02-04-2016 09:56 AM
  14. Tien-Lin Chang's Avatar
    Awesome, could you link me the guide you used to install? I'd really like to avoid bricking my daily driver
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/sam...tm#post3298725

    Here's the detail step-by-step guide, have fun!
    --
    I think this Q&A should pin to the top since this question had been asked so many times lol.
    02-04-2016 11:54 AM
  15. Driesb's Avatar
    Am I right there is a mobile 10 update available for the ATIV S? Should I install it?
    02-10-2016 01:12 PM
  16. Toutencarton's Avatar
    There is no W10M update for the Samsung Ativ S and Samsung has no plan for such an update.
    However, you can install W10M on your Ativ S by faking your phone manufacturer.
    02-10-2016 03:21 PM
  17. Dave Velo's Avatar
    I currently have 8.1.2 installed and, as far as I can tell, works just fine. There is an update to 10 on my phone but will wait till they work the bugs out... hopefully this summer.
    02-12-2016 09:00 AM
  18. Dave Velo's Avatar
    There is no W10M update for the Samsung Ativ S and Samsung has no plan for such an update.
    How do you know this for a fact? Did you write them?
    02-12-2016 09:04 AM
  19. megadragon998's Avatar
    How do you know this for a fact? Did you write them?
    There are some leaks talking about the Ativ SE update, nothing about Ativ S tho, but it's probably not gonna be updated :/
    02-12-2016 01:44 PM
  20. vinc76's Avatar
    I have followed your instructions and it worked quite well. Nevertheless, I pressed the button start and it took nearly 2 hours and nothing happened. At some Point the start button was available again and I shut down the Programm and removed the Samsung Ativ S. I tried it one more time and I get now the message that the Samsung can not be dedected anymore by Windows.
    Can anybody help.
    02-17-2016 12:40 PM
  21. Macco26's Avatar
    Sorry to write in this abandoned place but my wife left its ATIV S so I'm going to have some joy with it.

    Currently it has:
    • CSC ATO
    • fw 15 (the latest official for ATO)
    • OS build 14203.306

    This means that it hasn't Cortana Alpha for Italy.

    From my experience I should be able to install a simple OS 8.1 version 14219.341 to be good.

    But apparently I couldn't get it from PfD nor Windows Insiders. I have even Hard reset the device, went with my MS account (Insider enabled) and NO BUILD is showing available.

    I'd want to hear from your experience if:
    - I need a CustomPFD or some sort of hack to get till there instead. And if so, what's the best guide to do so and NOT INCUR in unwanted Windows 10M.
    - What type of device I should "emulate" with the above, to avoid (like a plague) to come into W10M. What I mostly need is 14219.341 for Cortana Alpha or, at max 8.1 GDR2.

    Thanks in advance, guys!

    edited: I did hard reset and entered my W.Insider MSA credentials. Same applies.
    Last edited by Macco26; 03-05-2016 at 03:03 PM.
    03-05-2016 08:30 AM
  22. Macco26's Avatar
    Just to say that I followed the excellent Grozman's guide to port till 8.1.2 and.. it went fine, actually!

    GDR2 installed and everything rocks (still restoring all the apps I had in my previous backup).

    So, as of March 2016, the WinWin HIGHSCREEN phone is a perfect candidate to be emulated and get 8.1 GDR2 without any PfD or WI app.
    Last edited by Macco26; 03-07-2016 at 01:38 PM.
    Boris NevermorE likes this.
    03-06-2016 12:01 PM
  23. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    Just to say that I followed the excellent Grozman's guide to port till 8.1.2 and.. it went fine, actually!

    GDR2 installed and everything rocks (still restoring all the apps I had in my previous backup).

    So, as of March 2016, the WinWin HIGHTECH phone is a perfect candidate to be emulated and get 8.1 GDR2 without any PfD or WI app.
    Well well, this is a great news, Thanks Macco :)
    03-06-2016 05:42 PM
  24. Dario Sacchi's Avatar
    Hy guys I'm back 😊 and still using my ativ s, I follow this thread weekly and rest tuned whispering to read some good news about an official update to Windows 10.......thanks to all for sharing!
    03-07-2016 01:23 PM
  25. SPIFF Costa's Avatar
    List is out, no Ativ S in it. Well, f*ck -.-
    03-17-2016 05:42 PM
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