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  1. xxxneoxxx's Avatar
    Well, it's still all unofficial.. Unfortunately. I guess the first 'official' news we will notice is that an update is actually available on the phone itself, lol.
    Last edited by xxxneoxxx; 08-27-2014 at 07:02 AM.
    08-27-2014 06:51 AM
  2. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    Well, it's still all unofficial.. Unfortunately. I guess the first 'official' news we will notice is that an update is actually available on the phone itself, lol.
    Most probably, hehe.
    And to not reply to you on 2 different posts, I will say it here, about the battery life.
    I told you what i do to get the 50-60 hours of battery life. And about the wi-fi finder being ON all the time, that is true, doesn't matter if its builded in the OS or not. All of them are build it in all OS's. Having that ON all the time is like leaving your car working while you are staying in one place. Does the car spend gas that moment? Yes it does, it's the same with leaving wi-fi finder turned on all the time.
    Various things can cause battery drains, heck, maybe the battery itself is not in a good condition. The advices regarding saving your battery life longer are just that, advices, to try it and see if they work for you. Some tricks help one group of people, and some other trick helps other group of people.
    I think if you manage to get around 45 hours of moderate usage from your phone, thant there is nothing wrong with your phone, battery or anything else. 45 hours of battery life (counting from 100% down to 20-25%) is a very good battery life. :)
    08-27-2014 07:53 AM
  3. Alex Boom's Avatar
    Well, it's still all unofficial.. Unfortunately. I guess the first 'official' news we will notice is that an update is actually available on the phone itself, lol.
    i wish it was like that, but to be clear, to get the GDR3 i had to change the apn settings to manual and the CSC code to something else...so an update could be available and we would not even know ;)
    now my FW is the 2424.13.10.1...with the 8.0.10517.150 OS
    08-27-2014 04:11 PM
  4. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    i wish it was like that, but to be clear, to get the GDR3 i had to change the apn settings to manual and the CSC code to something else...so an update could be available and we would not even know ;)
    now my FW is the 2424.13.10.1...with the 8.0.10517.150 OS
    If an update from Samsung is rolled out, WP Central will be all over it in the headlines, also PocketNow, WMPowerUser and the rest tech sites. We would know right on time, don't worry :)
    I don't know why you needed to change your APN settings to get the GDR3, I just changed my default MBM csc (T-Mobile Macedonia) to NEE, and whoa-la, I got the GDR3 right away :), no APN settings changed :)
    08-27-2014 04:46 PM
  5. WP Gan's Avatar
    I am from Asia, still havent got the update, current OS is 8.0.10328.78.

    Anyone from Asia can get new updates? Tried the CSC method but NEE and ATO not avail on my phone.....

    Current CSC is XME, I have many CSC as following: GLB, SMA, THL, XSE, XSP, XTC, XTC, XTE......

    Can get any advise from bro and sis here?
    08-29-2014 02:23 AM
  6. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    I am from Asia, still havent got the update, current OS is 8.0.10328.78.

    Anyone from Asia can get new updates? Tried the CSC method but NEE and ATO not avail on my phone.....

    Current CSC is XME, I have many CSC as following: GLB, SMA, THL, XSE, XSP, XTC, XTC, XTE......

    Can get any advise from bro and sis here?
    Well, too bad, but have you try all of them to see if any of them catches the GDR3? Cuz as i can see you are on GDR2.
    Try them all, maybe one will get the GDR3 for you. :)
    08-29-2014 08:22 AM
  7. neo158's Avatar
    You could try an open market CSC which starts with O and has a two letter code relating to the country/region you are in, that might allow you to get GDR3.

    Samsung CSC code reference - ykkfive

    Here are the CSC for my country and the related Mobile Networks:

    BTC - BT Cellnet ?
    BTU - BT ?
    CPW - ?
    H3G - Hutchinson 3G (Three)
    O2I - O2 Ireland
    O2U - O2 UK
    ORA - Orange
    OXA* - MultiCSC (SIM Free/EU Open Market)
    TMU - T-Mobile
    TSC - Tesco Mobile
    VIR - Virgin Mobile
    VOD - Vodafone
    XEU - ?
    Last edited by neo158; 08-29-2014 at 02:46 PM.
    08-29-2014 09:45 AM
  8. ruddevil's Avatar
    I am from Asia, still havent got the update, current OS is 8.0.10328.78.

    Anyone from Asia can get new updates? Tried the CSC method but NEE and ATO not avail on my phone.....

    Current CSC is XME, I have many CSC as following: GLB, SMA, THL, XSE, XSP, XTC, XTC, XTE......

    Can get any advise from bro and sis here?
    Mine is still on GDR2 firmware (CSC: XSE), but have opted for DP. It seems there will be no more update for Asia's Ativ S based on the forum posts.
    08-29-2014 11:19 AM
  9. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    You could try an open market CSC which starts with O and has a two letter code relating to the country/region you are in, that might allow you to get GDR3.

    Samsung CSC code reference - ykkfive

    Here are the CSC for my country and the related Mobile Networks:

    BTC - BT Cellnet ?
    BTU - BT ?
    CPW - ?
    H3G - Hutchinson 3G (Three)
    O2I - O2 Ireland
    O2U - O2 UK
    ORA - Orange
    OXA - MultiCSC (SIM Free/EU Open Market)
    TMU - T-Mobile
    TSC - Tesco Mobile
    VIR - Virgin Mobile
    VOD - Vodafone
    XEU - ?
    I think ORA or OXA will do the trick.
    08-29-2014 12:40 PM
  10. momonedusa's Avatar
    Please for how to get GDR3 use another topic
    08-29-2014 12:56 PM
  11. neo158's Avatar
    I think ORA or OXA will do the trick.
    I don't need to do this as I had GDR3 prior to the WP8.1 DP, the UK ORA CSC is specific to the Orange network and my phone uses the OXA CSC on O2-UK anyway.
    08-29-2014 02:45 PM
  12. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    I don't need to do this as I had GDR3 prior to the WP8.1 DP, the UK ORA CSC is specific to the Orange network and my phone uses the OXA CSC on O2-UK anyway.
    I replied to you not because you need that, but cuz it is more convenient for the guys who search and read to not get lost in the sea of posts here :)
    Anyway, how you been? Everything ok? :) :
    08-29-2014 04:35 PM
  13. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    Please for how to get GDR3 use another topic
    We answered that question around 5-6 times in this thread. The same answers are in the other threads on this forums as well, try searching and reading, you will find the answer :)
    08-29-2014 04:38 PM
  14. SatanWantYou's Avatar
    No im full of it....im upset mad angry and tired of this...why in the name of God samdung dont give a *** for his customers......i need to stay with buggy and laggy 8.1 because 8 its so outdated in comparison with android and ios...why its so hard to make that firmware and windows official...a great company like samsung its on last place for me...yes you made a lot of phones...and updates?no one cares....im waiting excited in april for 8.1 i was very happy to have it but in time more update from beta come and more bugs...im thinkin that im not the only angry one because samsung dont care about windows phone...i better buyed a lumia...
    08-30-2014 04:20 AM
  15. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    No im full of it....im upset mad angry and tired of this...why in the name of God samdung dont give a *** for his customers......i need to stay with buggy and laggy 8.1 because 8 its so outdated in comparison with android and ios...why its so hard to make that firmware and windows official...a great company like samsung its on last place for me...yes you made a lot of phones...and updates?no one cares....im waiting excited in april for 8.1 i was very happy to have it but in time more update from beta come and more bugs...im thinkin that im not the only angry one because samsung dont care about windows phone...i better buyed a lumia...
    I hear you bro, but it is what it is.... patience is a virtue (but sometimes a frustration too) :)
    08-30-2014 04:33 AM
  16. anon(8316658)'s Avatar
    No im full of it....im upset mad angry and tired of this...why in the name of God samdung dont give a *** for his customers......i need to stay with buggy and laggy 8.1 because 8 its so outdated in comparison with android and ios...why its so hard to make that firmware and windows official...a great company like samsung its on last place for me...yes you made a lot of phones...and updates?no one cares....im waiting excited in april for 8.1 i was very happy to have it but in time more update from beta come and more bugs...im thinkin that im not the only angry one because samsung dont care about windows phone...i better buyed a lumia...
    WHY are you so angry? :-)
    If you dont like this situation just switch to a Lumia and enjoy WP8.1.
    Samsung never said anything about WP8.1 for Ativ S maybe they wont update it... and what? Who cares? You can get Ativ S for a very low price its still a good phone. If you dont like it, sell it.

    BTW: What kind of bugs? Lot of us have only 2 bugs:
    1. ringtone
    2. camera (Flash)

    Everything else is working. Maybe try hard reset or revert back to GDR3.
    08-30-2014 05:17 AM
  17. akoj's Avatar
    Maybe this is part of MS strategy. You like your HTC/Samsung/..... WP device, but it doesn't get updated, so next time you will buy what?
    08-30-2014 05:44 AM
  18. PaulMilbank's Avatar
    Used the email the CEO button on the support page, just had a phone call on Thursday from someone In the support team saying the update should be coming in the next month. Its not much and we still need to wait, but hopefully it is still coming.
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    08-30-2014 05:58 AM
  19. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    Maybe this is part of MS strategy. You like your HTC/Samsung/..... WP device, but it doesn't get updated, so next time you will buy what?
    I don't know, but i am more and more sure that Samsung WP Devices (Ativ S i8750, Ativ S t899, Ativ S Neo, Ativ Odyssey and Ativ SE, did i forgot someone?), will get updates after IFA Berlin 2014, maybe not right away but in the next weeks after.
    We got what we got, so deal with that. I personally am happy with my GDR3 update. I don't go for "beta" anything until it's official, and if it doesn't go official, so be it. My ATIV S i8750 is working perfectly fine for my needs and get job done with 100% accuracy the way I want it (and trust me, i want a lot, lol). Having latest doesn't necessarily means you'll getting the best. :)
    08-30-2014 06:33 AM
  20. megadragon998's Avatar
    Can someone try to replicate problem i have so i am sure it is not only me? Try changing phone language to serbian and try to start camera app. On my phone it plays tile pressed animation and then plays back-to-start-screen animation and nothing happens. It works in english thogugh.

    PS. I did hard reset twice.
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    08-30-2014 09:37 AM
  21. Dario Sacchi's Avatar
    When I cause camera bug in my ativ s with italian language sometimes happens what you are describing, camera tile animation and back to start screen. Most of times after causing the bug camera 📷 app open but remains black.
    I've the impression with update 1 that camera bug sometimes doesn't happen also switching to video, so with a normal use developer preview is not so bad......
    I've tried before summer to change language but same issue
    Boris NevermorE likes this.
    08-30-2014 10:23 AM
  22. neo158's Avatar
    Used the email the CEO button on the support page, just had a phone call on Thursday from someone In the support team saying the update should be coming in the next month. Its not much and we still need to wait, but hopefully it is still coming.
    I would imagine that Samsung is skipping WP8.1 and going straight for GDR 1 instead, that's what is taking so long.
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    08-30-2014 01:22 PM
  23. xxxneoxxx's Avatar
    I don't know, but i am more and more sure that Samsung WP Devices (Ativ S i8750, Ativ S t899, Ativ S Neo, Ativ Odyssey and Ativ SE, did i forgot someone?), will get updates after IFA Berlin 2014, maybe not right away but in the next weeks after.
    We got what we got, so deal with that. I personally am happy with my GDR3 update. I don't go for "beta" anything until it's official, and if it doesn't go official, so be it. My ATIV S i8750 is working perfectly fine for my needs and get job done with 100% accuracy the way I want it (and trust me, i want a lot, lol). Having latest doesn't necessarily means you'll getting the best. :)
    The problem with a lot of mobile OS'ses is that when another beta release is out, they don't offer any new functionality. With WIndows Phone however, MS does offer a lot of new functionality the community has been waiting for, like the custom backgrounds with 8.1. Granted, with 8.1 GDR1 the new functionality is way less, but 8.1 in my opinion is another giant leap for the OS. I get why people don't want to wait. Lots of other mobile OS'ses don't have such major changes in updates. Only mobile OS i can think of is IOS 7 compared to IOS 6 to be honest.

    Edit: Regarding our update; it just occured to me. A lot of people with Ativ S'es have mentioned they are unable to update to 8.1 update/GDR 1. This seems to be due to a partitioning issue that was introduced on the ATiv with GDR3.

    Just a brainfart from my side: Maybe, just maybe, Samsung is going to release a flash tool which is a workaround for this problem all together. They might release an updated driver package/firmware plus a seperate flash tool to flash GDR3 back easily (without possibly voiding warranty) and providing a proper upgrade path to 8.1 GDR 1? That being said, i'm still not expecting anything from Samsung, even with the news regarding the CEO in this topic. Still just speculating here, but a seperate tool would be awesome for customers.
    Boris NevermorE likes this.
    08-30-2014 02:04 PM
  24. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    I would imagine that Samsung is skipping WP8.1 and going straight for GDR 1 instead, that's what is taking so long.
    Exactly my predictions too :) Let's hope it will fulfill :)
    08-30-2014 04:25 PM
  25. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    The problem with a lot of mobile OS'ses is that when another beta release is out, they don't offer any new functionality. With WIndows Phone however, MS does offer a lot of new functionality the community has been waiting for, like the custom backgrounds with 8.1. Granted, with 8.1 GDR1 the new functionality is way less, but 8.1 in my opinion is another giant leap for the OS. I get why people don't want to wait. Lots of other mobile OS'ses don't have such major changes in updates. Only mobile OS i can think of is IOS 7 compared to IOS 6 to be honest.

    Edit: Regarding our update; it just occured to me. A lot of people with Ativ S'es have mentioned they are unable to update to 8.1 update/GDR 1. This seems to be due to a partitioning issue that was introduced on the ATiv with GDR3.

    Just a brainfart from my side: Maybe, just maybe, Samsung is going to release a flash tool which is a workaround for this problem all together. They might release an updated driver package/firmware plus a seperate flash tool to flash GDR3 back easily (without possibly voiding warranty) and providing a proper upgrade path to 8.1 GDR 1? That being said, i'm still not expecting anything from Samsung, even with the news regarding the CEO in this topic. Still just speculating here, but a seperate tool would be awesome for customers.
    Whatever they think of, we won't mind as long as it gets the job done and we get the latest firmware. Yes, for us techy/geeky people it will be easy cuz we (most of us) knows what we are doing. But i won't even mind spending a month here in the forums, helping the less techy/geeky people to get things done on their phones and I know that many of you like me will join me in that thing :)
    xxxneoxxx likes this.
    08-30-2014 04:29 PM
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