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  1. Pedro Nogueira1's Avatar
    this ROM dont have CSC ATO, you need the ROM I8750XXCMJ1_I8750OXACMJ1 (CSC = ATO, BTU, DBT, ITV, XEF, XEO) firmware version 2424.13.10.1 GDR3.
    try shearch in google.
    10-19-2014 05:24 PM
  2. Marco Arrichiello's Avatar
    Sorry guys, if I ask for this, but make me understand: from posts seems to be available a fixed non official 8.1 update for Ativ S, right?
    Why Samsung didn't put it on regular Update screen?

    What are CSC, ATO and other acronyms? How can I know what I have?
    10-19-2014 05:51 PM
  3. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    Sorry guys, if I ask for this, but make me understand: from posts seems to be available a fixed non official 8.1 update for Ativ S, right?
    Why Samsung didn't put it on regular Update screen?

    What are CSC, ATO and other acronyms? How can I know what I have?
    Well, if you did followed this thread, so far you would know the answers to all of this questions you have, cuz each was answered numerous times in this thread. So, since i don't want to be criticized from someones here for telling people to actually first read then ask questions, i will answer you :)
    What we are talking in the last 6-7 pages is OFFICIAL Samsung firmware for WP8.1.1, but for unknown reasons only the phones having or running on ATO CSC are getting it, so this is actually kind of a workaround. This is official firmware (update) since it's going over OTA (Over The Air), and that can be released ONLY from Samsung.
    On your question Why Samsung didn't put this on regular Update Screen ... Well, so far from what i know Samsung was never telling the news that they have new firmware, they just roll the update out. It's not like on Nokias.
    But if you mean by that also why is not this on Update Screen on the phone, that's because like i said above, only phones with ATO CSC are getting it by now. So what you read here is people try to flash ATO CSC on their phones so they can be able to get the newest Samsung firmware 8.1.1. People who already run on ATO or have ATO in their CSC list, doesn't have to do nothing, they can only switch to ATO and they'll get the firmware.
    Mind that this is NOT a firmware for people running Windows Phone 8.1.1 Preview for Developers. People with that usually downgrade to WP8 GDR1, 2 or 3 and then get the official Samsung 8.1.1 firmware.
    CSC or short for Country Specific Code, where ATO, NEE, DBT, etc are names of the country specific code. :)
    Hope that clears you a bit, for other things just use Google, it's very easy :)
    10-19-2014 06:43 PM
  4. Luis_Oliveira's Avatar
    If someome wanna try, I used the SamWP8 Tools to change the CSC to ATO without doing a reset. But only works if your ATIV S is interop-unlocked (and in the GDR2)
    10-19-2014 07:48 PM
  5. Enzo De Stasio's Avatar
    tutto ok la guida in prima pagina perfetta !!!
    10-20-2014 12:12 AM
  6. PaulMilbank's Avatar
    Just asked Samsung about when the firmware is rolling out to others, NZ in particular, they reckon 3 weeks. They were right before with 8.1.1 starting about when they said it would.
    10-20-2014 12:34 AM
  7. Liam Hayes's Avatar
    I assume if New Zealand is in 3 weeks, then Australia would be around the same time?
    10-20-2014 12:41 AM
  8. GeraldK's Avatar
    Eagerly looking forward to get it in germany..... (CSC DBT)
    10-20-2014 02:04 AM
  9. megadragon998's Avatar
    Lol, you can get it now just by switching CSC to ATO. Hard reset is indeed needed after you install 8.1 as it runs much better after one. I tried update without hard reset, and with hard reset and i must say that hard resetting is the right thing to do :D. NOTE: Be sure to backup everything in your phone memory!!
    10-20-2014 02:47 AM
  10. PaulMilbank's Avatar
    Yes, but quite a lot of people don't have ATO on their phones. It becomes a lot bigger decision when you have to use a driver, tool and rom downloaded from the internet to flash a new firmware onto your phone. I did it, but I am used to flashing Android. A lot of people are not and even delving into hidden menu's to change CSC is a lot. No shame in waiting a while longer. It is a good update and should be released worldwide soon.
    10-20-2014 03:19 AM
  11. megadragon998's Avatar
    People who have DBT also have ATO on the list as it's in the same bundle, that's why i suggested changing to ATO as it is pretty easy to do.
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    10-20-2014 04:05 AM
  12. neo158's Avatar
    Yes, but quite a lot of people don't have ATO on their phones. It becomes a lot bigger decision when you have to use a driver, tool and rom downloaded from the internet to flash a new firmware onto your phone. I did it, but I am used to flashing Android. A lot of people are not and even delving into hidden menu's to change CSC is a lot. No shame in waiting a while longer. It is a good update and should be released worldwide soon.
    Exactly what I'm thinking and, like you, I flash custom ROMs on my old Android device. When you consider that my ATIV S was part bricked by the flash memory partition bug that the GDR3 DP had I'm just not willing to risk it.
    10-20-2014 05:33 AM
  13. Oversoul7's Avatar
    Exactly what I'm thinking and, like you, I flash custom ROMs on my old Android device. When you consider that my ATIV S was part bricked by the flash memory partition bug that the GDR3 DP had I'm just not willing to risk it.
    Yikes, neo! So the bug completely destroyed the phone? Or was it reversible bricking?
    10-20-2014 05:46 AM
  14. Geo L's Avatar
    If someome wanna try, I used the SamWP8 Tools to change the CSC to ATO without doing a reset. But only works if your ATIV S is interop-unlocked (and in the GDR2)
    I confirm that the Ativ S with interop-unlocked the CSC can be change to any without reset.
    Btw, the battery is draining faster under final WP 8.1 compared with DP using it the same in both cases.
    10-20-2014 05:54 AM
  15. Oversoul7's Avatar
    Hard reset to fix battery issue, Geo.
    Boris NevermorE likes this.
    10-20-2014 06:30 AM
  16. Luis_Oliveira's Avatar
    I've noticed that battery gate too. I hope a hard reset solves the problem (but i'm not willing to do another hard reset).
    10-20-2014 07:45 AM
  17. neo158's Avatar
    Yikes, neo! So the bug completely destroyed the phone? Or was it reversible bricking?
    It was reversible but I had to send the phone to Samsung so it was a PITA to get it fixed.
    Oversoul7 likes this.
    10-20-2014 07:45 AM
  18. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    I've noticed that battery gate too. I hope a hard reset solves the problem (but i'm not willing to do another hard reset).
    After every ROM flashing, a hard reset is A MUST! (maybe even 2 hard resets, one after another)
    That has been since the glory days of Windows Mobile 6.x.x, it was and still is the same with Android and now with WP too.
    Why is that, you may ask? Because after flashing a ROM (on any OS), first the flashing tool is wiping the partition where the OS is installed, and then it flashes the new ROM. During wiping the OS partition there are files left behind (or how we in ROM developing circles call them "leftovers"), that often can make system unstable during conflicts with newest files. This is where hard reset is coming in hand. It makes sure you "clean" the leftovers from the previous ROM. Usually 1 hard reset can do the job, but 2 hard resets one after another is a 100% aim and hit. :)
    When i was flashing my WM6.5.x ROMs on my beloved Omnia i900 for testing, i always did 2 hard resets one after another. :)
    Luis_Oliveira likes this.
    10-20-2014 08:26 AM
  19. nindzab's Avatar
    I have battery drain problem with official 8.1.1 According that some of you talking about hard reset process like way to resolve this problem. So i have one stupid question. Is need to do hard reset even i flash my phone with official GDR2 package through recovery tool before upgrade process? I guess that is not necessary in my case? Am i right?
    10-20-2014 08:27 AM
  20. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    I have battery drain problem with official 8.1.1 According that some of you talking about hard reset process like way to resolve this problem. So i have one stupid question. Is need to do hard reset even i flash my phone with official GDR2 package through recovery tool before upgrade process? I guess that is not necessary in my case? Am i right?
    Well, when you flash GDR2, your phone will hard reset anyway, and when it turns on, one more hard reset won't hurt you, cuz you already don't have anything to back up, got it? :)
    10-20-2014 08:44 AM
  21. nindzab's Avatar
    Well, when you flash GDR2, your phone will hard reset anyway, and when it turns on, one more hard reset won't hurt you, cuz you already don't have anything to back up, got it? :)
    The problem is because i'm after flashing process using my phone couple of days and i made customization again.... so if i back up my settings, apps etc. right now, is the problem if i restore all of it after hard reset. I mean is the back up process also save the conflict system files which is responsible for battery drain?
    10-20-2014 08:53 AM
  22. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    The problem is because i'm after flashing process using my phone couple of days and i made customization again.... so if i back up my settings, apps etc. right now, is the problem if i restore all of it after hard reset. I mean is the back up process also save the conflict system files which is responsible for battery drain?
    Well, depends what did you back up. Few posts above someone said it manage to back up settings, and games progress, and after flashing the rom he manage to return everything. I am not sure if the back up process is saving those files too, but i think it does, since hard reset is required right after you flash the phone and boot for the first time, before you start cuztomization and installing again.
    Let's put it this way: Would you rather risk with back up and if something happen, you do the whole process over again, or you would rather spend some time, wipe everything, and when flash, reboot and hard reset, you start clean and start installing and customization?
    If you ask me, I am always for a clean start, bugs/conflicts free.
    If you can't remember all the apps and games you install, then, do it old school way:
    - Make screenshots from your whole App List (usually needs 5-7 screenshots) and save them to OneDrive
    - Take a paper and a pen and write down all installed apps and games.
    I would recommend the first one, since i am doing that also :)
    nindzab likes this.
    10-20-2014 09:06 AM
  23. arronov's Avatar
    Hello, any review for official 8.1.1 ativ s? Any bugs, battery usage more better than before (8.0 gdr2/3) or make it worst (battery drainer)?
    10-20-2014 09:21 AM
  24. nindzab's Avatar
    Well, depends what did you back up. Few posts above someone said it manage to back up settings, and games progress, and after flashing the rom he manage to return everything. I am not sure if the back up process is saving those files too, but i think it does, since hard reset is required right after you flash the phone and boot for the first time, before you start cuztomization and installing again.
    Let's put it this way: Would you rather risk with back up and if something happen, you do the whole process over again, or you would rather spend some time, wipe everything, and when flash, reboot and hard reset, you start clean and start installing and customization?
    If you ask me, I am always for a clean start, bugs/conflicts free.
    If you can't remember all the apps and games you install, then, do it old school way:
    - Make screenshots from your whole App List (usually needs 5-7 screenshots) and save them to OneDrive
    - Take a paper and a pen and write down all installed apps and games.
    I would recommend the first one, since i am doing that also :)



    Thanks in advice. I don't have a problem with my memory but i spent a lot of time to customize a tons of passwords and users for installed apps... :-) Anyway i'm totally agree with your point of view :-) i'm going to do hard reset...
    Boris NevermorE likes this.
    10-20-2014 09:29 AM
  25. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    Hello, any review for official 8.1.1 ativ s? Any bugs, battery usage more better than before (8.0 gdr2/3) or make it worst (battery drainer)?
    First post here and you already bump a question before even try to read some of the pages here. Trust me, you will find the answers you need in those last 5 pages of this thread. :)
    By the way, Welcome to WPC Forums :)
    10-20-2014 09:46 AM
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