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  1. neo158's Avatar
    And for those not in the UK, could you tell what you see?
    That would be a certain Personal Digital Assistant
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    10-31-2014 11:12 AM
  2. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    Anyway, good news coming from WMPoweruser page, they stated that Samsung officially announced on their official forums that the WP8.1 (WP8.1.1) update start to roll, also encouraging users to check for updates.
    So guys, it's official, everyone will get it it's just a matter of time (days) when you will get it.
    Here's the link from the article:
    Samsung Ativ S users starts receiving Windows Phone 8.1 update
    10-31-2014 11:16 AM
  3. Duareg's Avatar
    That would be a certain Personal Digital Assistant
    You mean the personal digital assistant I won't have in my language until next year?
    10-31-2014 12:08 PM
  4. neo158's Avatar
    You mean the personal digital assistant I won't have in my language until next year?
    Sadly, yes. Hopefully it won't be too much longer before other countries get it, we do have to remember that it's the back end services that take the time to be upgraded not the phones.
    10-31-2014 12:48 PM
  5. Kambiz IranParast's Avatar
    Hi Borris,
    Thx for your contribution and dedication to this forum. I know you used the word "reset". My question is, does the phone automatically get a factory reset after you get the official Samsung 8.1.1 update or it's a choice that you can make? The reason I ask is because at the moment, I don't want to lose the data that I've got on my phone. I'm the admin for some WhatsApp groups and once I lose those groups as a result of a factory reset, I've got to recreate them all and add so many group members and it's a hassle. Thanks in advance for your input.
    Boris NevermorE likes this.
    10-31-2014 01:39 PM
  6. KamiForce's Avatar
    RoyalX;2838461name: Master Ativ S? What is this?

    Don't worry about the name :)
    U can change this to whatever u want
    I work in a pc store & sometimes get a ativ for repair; so i changed my phone name

    Glad Boris is detailing everything so clearly regarding the update:)

    Personal findings:
    Longer Battery Life
    Camera, thing is frigging fast now; no problems when taking pictures
    Booting is also faster
    tried to take screenie; and then u get warning -> volume up + power instead of logo+power

    all they need to add is a "mobile" on/off in the action centre
    Cortana (phone is in dutch) -> I want inner circle/quiet hours :)
    10-31-2014 01:50 PM
  7. neo158's Avatar
    RoyalX;2838461name: Master Ativ S? What is this?

    Don't worry about the name :)
    U can change this to whatever u want
    I work in a pc store & sometimes get a ativ for repair; so i changed my phone name

    Glad Boris is detailing everything so clearly regarding the update:)

    Personal findings:
    Longer Battery Life
    Camera, thing is frigging fast now; no problems when taking pictures
    Booting is also faster
    tried to take screenie; and then u get warning -> volume up + power instead of logo+power

    all they need to add is a "mobile" on/off in the action centre
    Cortana (phone is in dutch) -> I want inner circle/quiet hours :)
    So you're saying that you have Cortana without changing the settings?
    10-31-2014 01:58 PM
  8. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    Hi Borris,
    Thx for your contribution and dedication to this forum. I know you used the word "reset". My question is, does the phone automatically get a factory reset after you get the official Samsung 8.1.1 update or it's a choice that you can make? The reason I ask is because at the moment, I don't want to lose the data that I've got on my phone. I'm the admin for some WhatsApp groups and once I lose those groups as a result of a factory reset, I've got to recreate them all and add so many group members and it's a hassle. Thanks in advance for your input.
    Kambiz, let me explain you how upgrade is going:
    First of all you have to have space for that. When the last upgrade begun, I had 10.31GB free space, then i notice it went down to 8.7GB. This is like this because before upgrade start to install, the OS needs first a space where it can migrate your data (pictures, sounds, settings, etc.) on safe so it can make a clean install.
    After the upgrade is install and phone actually hard resets, last thing OS is doing is to migrate your data back to it's place and release that taken space back.
    So, bottom line you won't lose anything. You will see after the upgrade is finished that OS makes another operation saying: Migrating Data. So, i think you would be fine cuz i have notice that when all was done i opened Facebook and i was already logged in. So I think you won't have problems with WhatsApp.
    After all finished and i did those first little settings (removing new installed app that came with the new OS, cuz i don't need them) I went back to 10.31GB of free space i had before the upgrade started. So, it's all good.
    Anyway, hard reset is not needed here cuz this is official OTA. You do hard reset when you flash a new rom not when you get OTA update.
    Hope I explain you well :)
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    10-31-2014 02:48 PM
  9. KamiForce's Avatar
    So you're saying that you have Cortana without changing the settings?
    Oops, sorry
    Bottom 2 items were: "wish list"
    don't have cortana because my phone is in dutch :/
    my bad; sorry for the confusion
    10-31-2014 02:59 PM
  10. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    Oops, sorry
    Bottom 2 items were: "wish list"
    don't have cortana because my phone is in dutch :/
    my bad; sorry for the confusion
    As i said in my first impressions post, change language to English US and you get much better US Cortana :)
    10-31-2014 03:15 PM
  11. Duareg's Avatar
    Sadly, yes. Hopefully it won't be too much longer before other countries get it, we do have to remember that it's the back end services that take the time to be upgraded not the phones.
    OK then, actually I don't care that much about this feature. I was just whining. :-)
    10-31-2014 03:24 PM
  12. Matthew Becker1's Avatar
    Boris: In the DP, the ringtone would reset to a default sound whenever the phone reboots. Do you notice if this is happening with your device? Or have you rebooted it at all?
    10-31-2014 03:26 PM
  13. KamiForce's Avatar
    As i said in my first impressions post, change language to English US and you get much better US Cortana :)
    I know that would get me cortana
    But, I'm the only active windows phone user in our firm - so it's always my phone they show to customers
    and if they see english; they flip.. "ow, it's in english... not in dutch"
    and saying it's also in dutch; most customers would give me a weird look & wouldn't believe me >.<
    So gonna stick with dutch for now :p

    Anyway; been messing with my phone
    apps opening a lot faster (store & FB Messenger speed increased drastically)
    Found out: rebooting the phone now saves my volume settings (finally; previously --> 19/30)
    There was also a microsoft thread I was following; people there getting the updates now too (can't link; not 10 posts yet)
    And; Facebook Beta -> no integration in People; only normal Facebook app works

    Hoping some apps will change the logo to allow transparency
    10-31-2014 03:30 PM
  14. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    Boris: In the DP, the ringtone would reset to a default sound whenever the phone reboots. Do you notice if this is happening with your device? Or have you rebooted it at all?
    Nope, everything works just fine here. The Ringer + Notifications tone volume if you set it to 7 it will stay at 7 after restart the phone, the same goes to Media + Apps, and also when you speak on the phone (like a phone call, lol) however you set it, it will stay the same after the reboot. Actually i just tested this right before I answer your question.
    Ringer + Notification tone - volume set on 9
    Media + Apps tone - volume set to 25
    Incall - volume set to 10
    After reboot, all stayed the same :)
    Matthew Becker1 likes this.
    10-31-2014 04:44 PM
  15. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    I know that would get me cortana
    But, I'm the only active windows phone user in our firm - so it's always my phone they show to customers
    and if they see english; they flip.. "ow, it's in english... not in dutch"
    and saying it's also in dutch; most customers would give me a weird look & wouldn't believe me >.<
    So gonna stick with dutch for now :p

    Anyway; been messing with my phone
    apps opening a lot faster (store & FB Messenger speed increased drastically)
    Found out: rebooting the phone now saves my volume settings (finally; previously --> 19/30)
    There was also a microsoft thread I was following; people there getting the updates now too (can't link; not 10 posts yet)
    And; Facebook Beta -> no integration in People; only normal Facebook app works

    Hoping some apps will change the logo to allow transparency
    When i got the upgrade I noticed that it did install official Facebook app beside the Facebook Beta i got previously. I tested both again, and Facebook Beta was equally fast as was previously, but what I was surprised is that official Facebook app now works even faster and it's much fluid than Beta. I don't know, maybe on my phone works like that.
    And I often seen people on Store complaining some app is slow or crashing or whatever. I have a strange fetish to go right after those apps and none of them are crashing on my phone, and when i write to those people telling them that on my phone those apps are not slow and crashing at all, they thought i am trolling them, Go figure! LoooL
    10-31-2014 04:50 PM
  16. mary beth hale's Avatar
    Boris: In the DP, the ringtone would reset to a default sound whenever the phone reboots. Do you notice if this is happening with your device? Or have you rebooted it at all?
    Matthew >can't wait til I don't get "over the horizon" default ring tone everyone I restart my phone. Hope t899 gets the firmware soon.
    Last edited by mary beth hale; 10-31-2014 at 09:08 PM.
    10-31-2014 06:15 PM
  17. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    Matthew >can't wait til I don't get "over the horizon" when I reset my phone Hope t899 gets the firmware soon.
    It will, for what i heard, ATIV SE will also get it, it's in the final stage. But take this rather as a rumor :)
    mary beth hale likes this.
    10-31-2014 08:19 PM
  18. RoyalX's Avatar
    Found out: rebooting the phone now saves my volume settings (finally; previously --> 19/30)
    Glad that bug is solved too.

    What about the music files bug? In WP8.0 you see them multiplied.
    dan16 likes this.
    11-01-2014 01:42 AM
  19. Appalling Outlook's Avatar
    Update- now maybe its just me, but after the official firmware update, the screen looks alot crisper. Colours pop slightly.. Really liking the look of text and UI animations. Its seems Samsung did some optimization with the screen. We're getting some good AMOLED performance improvements here.. Animations look slick.
    I can't seem to observe this to the same degree as you, after finally updating to official Samsung WP 8.1. Are you sure your screen setting was not set on "medium" after you installed the update, so that if you set it back to "low" (which I presume was your setting previously), makes your screen look the same as before?


    AO
    11-01-2014 04:21 AM
  20. Kambiz IranParast's Avatar
    Kambiz, let me explain you how upgrade is going:
    First of all you have to have space for that. When the last upgrade begun, I had 10.31GB free space, then i notice it went down to 8.7GB. This is like this because before upgrade start to install, the OS needs first a space where it can migrate your data (pictures, sounds, settings, etc.) on safe so it can make a clean install.
    After the upgrade is install and phone actually hard resets, last thing OS is doing is to migrate your data back to it's place and release that taken space back.
    So, bottom line you won't lose anything. You will see after the upgrade is finished that OS makes another operation saying: Migrating Data. So, i think you would be fine cuz i have notice that when all was done i opened Facebook and i was already logged in. So I think you won't have problems with WhatsApp.
    After all finished and i did those first little settings (removing new installed app that came with the new OS, cuz i don't need them) I went back to 10.31GB of free space i had before the upgrade started. So, it's all good.
    Anyway, hard reset is not needed here cuz this is official OTA. You do hard reset when you flash a new rom not when you get OTA update.
    Hope I explain you well :)
    Borris,

    Thx very much for your clear explanation.
    You make a wonderful university professor.
    Take care
    Boris NevermorE likes this.
    11-01-2014 10:31 AM
  21. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    Borris,

    Thx very much for your clear explanation.
    You make a wonderful university professor.
    Take care
    U r welcome Kambiz. Glad I helped
    Kambiz IranParast likes this.
    11-01-2014 11:18 AM
  22. gugman's Avatar
    so, so many days trying to make my camera load under 8.1, no solution found, feeling like will throw my ativ s in nearest garbage can
    pretty sure used almost all tricks, no solution found
    11-01-2014 12:25 PM
  23. t333to's Avatar
    Anyone on ATO and PfD received the offical update so far?
    11-01-2014 12:33 PM
  24. Dusan Randj's Avatar
    so, so many days trying to make my camera load under 8.1, no solution found, feeling like will throw my ativ s in nearest garbage can
    pretty sure used almost all tricks, no solution found

    you have downgraded to GDR2 and then istalled this official update from Samsung? Hard reset after update?
    if you are still on PfD, that is causing problems probably. What is your firware version?
    11-01-2014 01:29 PM
  25. gugman's Avatar
    you have downgraded to GDR2 and then istalled this official update from Samsung? Hard reset after update?
    if you are still on PfD, that is causing problems probably. What is your firware version?
    downgraded not only to GDR2, but 1 and 3 as well, hard resets, soft resets, different roms and now even different csc as many countries have started receiving official updates except ATO, tried only official updates and also tried official updates alongside with Dev preview, tried with different roms only with Dev preview and then installing official on top of it, nothing works, as soon as i not on gdr 1,2 or 3 camera does not load, it worked for few months with Dev preview but not no way to use it on 8.1. even changed language / region combinations many times just in case, no luck so far
    11-01-2014 02:20 PM
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