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  1. megadragon998's Avatar
    Install 8.1.2. It's stable and useful with new features :)
    How?
    04-11-2015 02:54 PM
  2. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    The only phone i got and can be updated to W10TP, my Lumia 630, is not available :)
    Long story short, I gave it to my 16 years old cousin cuz he had enough from his Android device (I think it was Huawei, dunno) and android lag. When he visits me, he always tinkering around with my ATIV S and my Lumia 930. And then one day said to me could i help him with money cuz he wanted a WP so bad. And instead of money i suggest to give him my Lumia 630 to use it for a while and get use to WP and learn more about it and if then he still loves the OS, i will get him one as a gift (he choose which one). He accepted my suggestion and took the Lumia 630 (omg, you should see guys his face how much he was excited, lol). 3 days later he sells his Android device to some friend of his and 4 days after that he phones me to ask me how to get W10 on the device, hahaha.
    I was like: WTF man? Learn first the damn device and OS. And it is your main phone now, so getting W10 there is not recommendable.
    His answer: Well I learn a lot, i read the thread on WC where you and others are active, then i read other threads about WP and Lumia 630.
    And I was like: Ok, when did you sleep last?
    And he was like: Dunno, 2 days ago!?
    LOL, he spend 2 days learning WP, now that's dedication, :)
    So, I see that he ditched Android for WP for good, so I was thinking to get him MS Lumia 640 or 640XL. Which one you think I should get him? He likes to have the ATIV S cuz of its design, but I think any of the 640's will be better choice for him.
    I know this is kinda off topic, but I see you all here as family :)
    04-11-2015 03:40 PM
  3. grozaman's Avatar
    I'm 18 years old :D
    Bought ATIV S with my first salary (made a site) when I was 16.
    04-11-2015 04:05 PM
  4. Mazlum's Avatar
    My ATIV S doesn't have the CSC ATO. It Starts with AUT or something. I recoverd the image from grozman to GDR3​. Checking updates on phone it says phone is up to date. It is running 8.0 at the moment.
    04-11-2015 04:49 PM
  5. mjb666's Avatar
    I use csc NEE as I don't have ATO either (I could choose AUT but not sure if that will get me latest firmware ie 2424.15. I currently have 2424.14.9) I spent most of yesterday reinstalling 8.0 back to 8.1 after I got the reboot issue with windows insider fast ring. I would be interested to know if changing to AUT will get me latest firmware sooner or not? Also has anyone got the Microsoft windows phone recovery tool working with the ativ s (it would save me a lot of time bringing my phone back to life after I blindly install updates, which I shouldn't do, but I just can't stop myself.
    04-11-2015 05:31 PM
  6. Mazlum's Avatar
    I've set my CSC to NEE indeed. Currently busy with updates etc. It takes forever. This was my second time with this reboot issue. Well anyways next week my S6 Edge is here to switch until Microsoft launches a great OS with flagship devies..​
    04-11-2015 06:05 PM
  7. Dragone's Avatar
    I just managed to enroll my ativ to the fast ring windows insider program. I did not use any trick or registry edit. Is it only me?
    04-11-2015 06:07 PM
  8. lexrsk's Avatar
    Also has anyone got the Microsoft windows phone recovery tool working with the ativ s.
    No. It is only for Microsoft hardware. i.e. Nokia handsets
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    04-11-2015 06:31 PM
  9. Dusan Randj's Avatar
    Install 8.1.2. It's stable and useful with new features :)
    Haven't got it in upgrade process. For now, I don't see the rule in which phones do and which do not get 8.1.2. But would like it more than 10.
    P.s. Hristos Voskrese!
    Boris NevermorE likes this.
    04-12-2015 05:44 AM
  10. Brecht Baekelandt's Avatar
    I just managed to enroll my ativ to the fast ring windows insider program. I did not use any trick or registry edit. Is it only me?
    Yep, I have it too :-)
    04-12-2015 07:51 AM
  11. lukas_ita's Avatar
    Yep, I have it too :-)

    Me too...Yesterday morning
    04-12-2015 08:33 AM
  12. megadragon998's Avatar
    Haven't got it in upgrade process. For now, I don't see the rule in which phones do and which do not get 8.1.2. But would like it more than 10.
    P.s. Hristos Voskrese!
    I'd love to get 8.1.2 but can't seem to find any way to install it :/ Maybe try changing model to Lumia 930 or Icon?
    PS. Vaistinu Voskrese!
    Boris NevermorE and rotkod like this.
    04-12-2015 09:13 AM
  13. IntoTheSun's Avatar
    Me too...Yesterday morning
    I too was able to enroll; now says Preparing to install 12%. Should I expect the phone to really become unusable if I install Windows 10? :)
    04-12-2015 10:35 AM
  14. grantpwarren's Avatar
    I too was able to enroll; now says Preparing to install 12%. Should I expect the phone to really become unusable if I install Windows 10? :)
    Absolutely. My 1020 was a borderline brick.
    04-12-2015 10:46 AM
  15. maki01's Avatar
    Haven't got it in upgrade process. For now, I don't see the rule in which phones do and which do not get 8.1.2. But would like it more than 10.
    P.s. Hristos Voskrese!
    Vistina voskrese!
    Boris NevermorE and rotkod like this.
    04-12-2015 10:48 AM
  16. Dusan Randj's Avatar
    I'd love to get 8.1.2 but can't seem to find any way to install it :/ Maybe try changing model to Lumia 930 or Icon?
    PS. Vaistinu Voskrese!
    There is thread on wmpoweruser.com which says that people with bush/archos and L930 do get 8.1.2 just with enroling fast ring. I tried (was on official 8.1.1 latest fw), got the famous .219 update, then got the configuration update for W10 and after that doesn't get anything, phone says up to to date. I would try to mask as L930 if someonr know parameters for L930?
    megadragon998 likes this.
    04-12-2015 10:55 AM
  17. Papox's Avatar
    I too was able to enroll; now says Preparing to install 12%. Should I expect the phone to really become unusable if I install Windows 10? :)
    Are You succes installing WP 10 TP without error...?
    Thanks...
    04-12-2015 12:01 PM
  18. lukas_ita's Avatar
    Is there a way to disable Windows Insider? I don t see any option in the app
    Sent from my Ativ S with Tapatalk 2
    04-12-2015 02:26 PM
  19. megadragon998's Avatar
    Is there a way to disable Windows Insider? I don t see any option in the app
    Sent from my Ativ S with Tapatalk 2
    It should turn off by uninstalling the app
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    04-12-2015 03:08 PM
  20. Dragone's Avatar
    It did install something after I enrolled. Yet it was not GDR2 nor WP10 :(
    04-12-2015 04:43 PM
  21. dpweeks's Avatar
    Hi RoyalX,

    In case it's useful for other folk that are in the same position I was, here is a blow by blow account of what I did to get my unlocked/unbranded Samsung Ativ S with Giffgaff UK SIM upgraded from Windows Phone 8 to Windows Phone 8.1:

    1. Backed up my Samsung Ativ S:
    a. Under "Settings", "Backup", "App list and settings", turned on "Backup", and initiated "back up now" to the cloud.
    b. Under "Settings", "Backup", "messaging", turned on "Text message backup" and "Chat backup" to the cloud
    c. Took lots of screenshots of all settings for the phone and various apps, just for my future reference
    d. With the phone connected to a PC via USB cable, took copies of the entire contents of both "Phone" and "SD Card" storage areas
    2. Used the Samsung Diagnostic tool to change the Country Specific Code (CSC) from "XEF" (France) to "BTU" (United Kingdom, where I actually reside):
    a. Launched the Diagnostic tool by dialing ##634# from the phone pad - a new black window opened with a numpad
    b. Entered *#321647335 and select "BTU". Pressed "OK" to reset the phone (back to factory condition!). Changing the CSC in this way results in phone reset and the loss of all settings and data in the "Phone" storage area. I realised later that data in the "SD Card" area is in fact preserved.
    c. After phone rebooted, created a new App password on Microsoft website in order to login on the phone with my Microsoft account (since I use 2 phase authentication on my Microsoft account)
    d. Restored the Phone backup from the cloud that was created in step 1 a. above
    i. Had to provide passwords for Hotmail and various other restored email accounts. Since I use IMAP for those other accounts, I didn't lose any email.
    ii. All previously installed Apps were automatically all re-installed from Microsoft store.
    e. Some Apps such as WhatApp and Skype automatically retrieved previous messaging from their servers. Others lost all their configuration data, and so I used the screenshots saved in Step 1 c, to reconfigure them. Uninstalled a few Samsung Apps which the reset had re-instated. Re-downloaded maps.
    f. Reconfigured the Microsoft Authenticator App used for 2 phase authentication, by re-pairing it with my Microsoft Account.
    g. Went through all other apps briefly, so see whether they launched. All seemed OK.
    h. Went through all settings, adjusting them to align with saved screenshots from Step 1 c. This included setting up a Phone lock screen PIN number again
    i. Under "Settings", "Backup", "App list and settings", initiated another "back up now" to the cloud.
    j. So at this point I was now running the same original Windows Phone 8.0 (OS version 8.0.10517.150, Firmware version 2424.13.10.1), but with CSC now successfully changed to "BTU" (as evidenced by entering *#1234# into the Diagnostic App), all my Apps re-installed and reconfigured again, and backed up.
    k. Note: following this reset, a huge amount of space was recovered in the "Phone" storage (some 5 Gb)!
    3. While I was performing step 2 above, my phone in parallel automatically discovered and downloaded a later version of Windows 8.0 (OS version 8.0.10532.166), which seemed specifically designed to prepare for subsequent upgrade to Windows 8.1
    a. Selected "Upgrade" to allow this upgrade to occur
    b. Phone rebooted to showing two gears turning, and then "ALMOST DONE Migrating your data (Step x of 6)" and finally "Update completed!" message
    c. Phone was now running OS version 8.0.10532.166. Firmware Revision number was still 2424.13.10.1.
    d. Under "Settings", "Backup", "App list and settings", initiated yet another "back up now" to the cloud.
    e. Under "Settings" "phone update", unchecked "Automatically download updates if by data settings allow it" (to give me a bit more control over when download occurs)
    4. Shortly after performing Step 3 e, my phone in automatically discovered the update for Windows 8.1 (OS version 8.10.14157.200) and displayed "An update is ready to download".
    a. I allowed the "Download", after which phone automatically started preparing for upgrade.
    b. Phone stayed on Update Status: "Preparing to install x%" for quite a long time (almost 10 mins)
    c. Phone finally displayed "Your update is ready to be installed" (Postpone or Install)
    d. I selected "Install" to install Windows Phone 8.1 (OS version 8.10.14157.200), and "SAMSUNG Update for Windows Phone"
    e. Was presented with "Microsoft Service Agreement" dated March 2014, which I accepted by clicking on "Install"
    f. Phone said "Restarting", "goodbye", and rebooted automatically to showing two gears turning
    g. Phone rebooted again, and I entered my PIN number when prompted
    h. Phone displayed "ALMOST DONEand it will be worth the wait, Migrating your data (Step x of 21)"
    i. Phone displayed "Update successful", "Continue", which I selected
    j. Phone displayed "New Settings" for "Wifi Sense" and "Additional Settings" to which I made some adjustments to the default settings
    k. Phone now seemed to have all my Apps still intact! All App configuration data was preserved (Apps were apparently not re-installed from the Microsoft Store as in Step 2 d ii above, but must have been handled in a smarter way in Steps 4 b and 4 h above)
    l. Phone is now running Windows Phone 8.1 (OS version 8.10.14157.200), Firmware revision number has changed to 2424.14.9.3, Radio software version has changed to 2424.14.9.3 !! Success!!
    m. Reconfigured my Start Screen using Windows Phone 8.1 Start Screen folders to group related Apps (a big improvement over Windows Phone 8.0)
    n. Phone "Backup" option has been enhanced to backup more things (e.g. browser favourites, Start screen layout, etc. and App content and settings to OneDrive, so did a "back up now" operation, to back all those things up.


    So now my Samsung Ativ S has a new lease of life!! I have been very happy with this phone which I bought back in 2013 on Windows Phone 8.0, and am impressed by the fact that Samsung has continued to support it so as to allow it to be successfully upgraded to Windows Phone 8.1 with Cortana. If it subsequently is able to receive a further update to Windows Phone 10 when that becomes officially available, I will be doubly impressed!
    04-12-2015 05:06 PM
  22. IntoTheSun's Avatar
    Are You succes installing WP 10 TP without error...?
    Thanks...
    Actually it wasn't W10 offered but some updated 8.1. The phone went into boot loop and I had to flash an 8.0 ROM then normally update back to where I was: 8.10.14157.200 (8.1 Update).
    04-13-2015 03:20 AM
  23. lexrsk's Avatar
    n. Phone "Backup" option has been enhanced to backup more things (e.g. browser favourites, Start screen layout, etc. and App content and settings to OneDrive, so did a "back up now" operation, to back all those things up.
    Just note: The app must support backing up to OneDrive for API backup to work
    04-13-2015 06:57 AM
  24. Papox's Avatar
    Actually it wasn't W10 offered but some updated 8.1. The phone went into boot loop and I had to flash an 8.0 ROM then normally update back to where I was: 8.10.14157.200 (8.1 Update).
    I'm join with windows insider, then select to Insider fast, but im not getting WP 8.1 Update 2 or WP 10, im only received WP 8.1 (8.10.14219.341) with data cellular available on actions center without error...
    My firmware 2424.15.3.2...
    Sorry for bad English...
    04-13-2015 11:09 AM
  25. dan16's Avatar
    Hi, I managed to update to the 14219 OS last night (pfd + w.insider-slow), with the firmware v.15 of course. Italian Cortana is fine and useful (I expect great improvements in the future), data in the action center is welcome. I am just trying to understand what exactly the "quiet hours" setting does ... I also noticed a better text cursor and an overall slightly bigger fluidity.
    Moreover I checked a few weeks ago that our ativ s does support Bluetooth 4.0 LE now. I used a bt4.0le chip for that.
    I wonder if pfd was actually necessary for my update, it seems they are replacing it with windows insider ... anyway I disabled everything after the update.
    For gdr2, well I do not think the effort is worth for now. BT keyboard for a smartphone (!), native mkv support (vlc...) and rearranged settings (we have search tips) are far less important than, say, a good upgrade of email attachments.
    Cheers
    WinSammie likes this.
    04-13-2015 12:35 PM
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