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  1. anon(8316658)'s Avatar
    Snapdragon 400/410 are not more powerful than our S4 Plus. Adreno 225 (S4 Plus' GPU) is more powerful than 305/306 (400/410's GPU). Tried with benchmark against my brother's 640XL (Snap 400/Adreno 305) and my gf's Desire 620 (Snap 410/Adreno 306). Both are 2015 devices. They only use less battery. So Ativ S is still a good phone IMHO
    without proper firmware the whole system will be useless. DualCore is slow compared to QuadCore only one thing is in optimum range = 1GB ram nothing else but IDK anymore. I will buy a new Microsoft phone so my Ativ S will "die" with WP8.1.1. Anyways it was a nice journey :-) I dont regret buying this phone but its time to move forward
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    08-14-2015 10:54 AM
  2. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    without proper firmware the whole system will be useless. DualCore is slow compared to QuadCore only one thing is in optimum range = 1GB ram nothing else but IDK anymore. I will buy a new Microsoft phone so my Ativ S will "die" with WP8.1.1. Anyways it was a nice journey :-) I dont regret buying this phone but its time to move forward
    True, but just keep the ATIV S, just as a spare phone, to see what happens with Win10 and official Samsung firmware (if they announce it, lol). If Samsung doesn't show some new W10 device in the next 6 months, I am sure gonna buy the new MS flagship whatever that will be, but i am not selling the beloved ATIV S. Will keep it as a spare device or at least experimental device :).
    Hey Pappale, what if Samsung produce the ATIV S2, with let's say 3GB of RAM, 32GB base model, micro sd, 16MP OIS camera and Win10 on it, would you buy it? (doesn't matter the design) :)
    08-14-2015 05:33 PM
  3. anon(8316658)'s Avatar
    True, but just keep the ATIV S, just as a spare phone, to see what happens with Win10 and official Samsung firmware (if they announce it, lol). If Samsung doesn't show some new W10 device in the next 6 months, I am sure gonna buy the new MS flagship whatever that will be, but i am not selling the beloved ATIV S. Will keep it as a spare device or at least experimental device :).
    Hey Pappale, what if Samsung produce the ATIV S2, with let's say 3GB of RAM, 32GB base model, micro sd, 16MP OIS camera and Win10 on it, would you buy it? (doesn't matter the design) :)
    if they release a Samsung S6/Note5/EDGE with WP10 - YES
    if they release just a refreshed Samsung S5 with WP10 - NO because the price will be too high and I wont pay for 1/2y. old refubrished HW
    :)
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    08-14-2015 06:53 PM
  4. lexrsk's Avatar
    what if Samsung produce the ATIV S2, with let's say 3GB of RAM, 32GB base model, micro sd, 16MP OIS camera and Win10 on it, would you buy it? (doesn't matter the design) :)
    No. They quite clearly are not 100% dedicated to the OS or consumers. They are however 100% dedicated to filing there own pockets with money. Nobody who owns a Ativ S can say that they have had smooth support from 8-8.10.1
    I'd I did not change my CSC I'm sure that I would still be on win 8
    08-14-2015 11:03 PM
  5. luiz eduardo4's Avatar
    I'm new here'm from Brazil and I'm Ativ S is version 8.10.14203 and firmware 0424.13.10.1 use TIM operator would like to know how to upgrade to Windows 10 and whether it is worth or better and upgrade to the latest version 8.1 and as I do because I am with the Preview for Developers and inform the unit that is already updated.
    Boris NevermorE likes this.
    09-30-2015 01:47 PM
  6. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    1. Read the first post of this thread, you have all you need there.
    2. Then start reading from page 95 to last page :)
    You'll get your answers.
    09-30-2015 06:16 PM
  7. Dan Preda's Avatar
    without proper firmware the whole system will be useless. DualCore is slow compared to QuadCore only one thing is in optimum range = 1GB ram nothing else but IDK anymore. I will buy a new Microsoft phone so my Ativ S will "die" with WP8.1.1. Anyways it was a nice journey :-) I dont regret buying this phone but its time to move forward
    I moved forward, I sold Ativ and I bought a Lumia 930
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    10-01-2015 03:23 PM
  8. lukas_ita's Avatar
    Latest fw 2424.15.13.2 released to ITV (italy) CSC too
    10-02-2015 11:48 AM
  9. Rimil0uz's Avatar
    Did u get it today? Do you remember which one did your phone have?
    10-02-2015 01:04 PM
  10. lukas_ita's Avatar
    Did u get it today? Do you remember which one did your phone have?

    Last week, I upgraded to 10. Then I reflashed 8.1 with ITV csc and I received all the updates. I read on an other forum too that other italian users received it. This is a good news: maybe Samsung will support our devices with Win 10 too.
    10-02-2015 02:35 PM
  11. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    Last week, I upgraded to 10. Then I reflashed 8.1 with ITV csc and I received all the updates. I read on an other forum too that other italian users received it. This is a good news: maybe Samsung will support our devices with Win 10 too.
    Ok Lukas, I'm a bit confused here. You said that you been with your ATIV S on Insiders program with W10M, then re-flash it back to WP8.1 and get the updates, so my question is which updates? For WP8.1 bringing it to WP8.1.1 official? :)
    10-02-2015 04:32 PM
  12. lukas_ita's Avatar
    Ok Lukas, I'm a bit confused here. You said that you been with your ATIV S on Insiders program with W10M, then re-flash it back to WP8.1 and get the updates, so my question is which updates? For WP8.1 bringing it to WP8.1.1 official? :)

    Yes, all the same updates that we all can receive in past only with with csc ATO. So official 8.1.1 (without Cortana for european languages) and latest fw update 2424.15.13.2 ;)
    After all I updated to 8.1.2 with grozaman guide, using CustomPFD to change registy entries
    10-02-2015 04:43 PM
  13. anon(8316658)'s Avatar
    Yes, all the same updates that we all can receive in past only with with csc ATO. So official 8.1.1 (without Cortana for european languages) and latest fw update 2424.15.13.2 ;)
    After all I updated to 8.1.2 with grozaman guide, using CustomPFD to change registy entries
    you could update to 8.1.2 via Preview for Developers (not the Insider), no hack needed. All FW/SW updates are available via this app
    10-02-2015 06:55 PM
  14. lukas_ita's Avatar
    you could update to 8.1.2 via Preview for Developers (not the Insider), no hack needed. All FW/SW updates are available via this app

    Are you sure? Wasn't Ativ S pulled from PFD program after bootloop problem? I will try with an other Ativ in my home. ;)
    10-03-2015 01:20 AM
  15. lukas_ita's Avatar
    Tried, it received .306 update. Still 8.1.1 and no Cortana for european languages (Cortana works in Europe since .341, the one that generates bootloop without 2424.15.13 fw).
    10-03-2015 03:10 AM
  16. anon(8316658)'s Avatar
    Are you sure? Wasn't Ativ S pulled from PFD program after bootloop problem? I will try with an other Ativ in my home. ;)
    nope

    I got the 8.1.2 update without problems
    the bootloop problem was solved a long time ago
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    10-03-2015 06:15 AM
  17. lukas_ita's Avatar
    What is your csc and fw?
    10-03-2015 07:21 AM
  18. anon(8316658)'s Avatar
    what is your csc and fw?
    csc: Ato
    fw: 2424.15.3.2
    os: 8.10.14203.306
    10-03-2015 10:33 AM
  19. lukas_ita's Avatar
    csc: Ato
    fw: 2424.15.3.2
    os: 8.10.14203.306

    8.10.14203.306 is not 8.1.2, it only an update of 8.1.1. With grozaman guide I got 8.10.15137.148 (8.1.2 or 8.1 GDR2) with new settings men, Bluetooth keyboard compatibility and more....
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    10-03-2015 12:54 PM
  20. anon(8316658)'s Avatar
    8.10.14203.306 is not 8.1.2, it only an update of 8.1.1. With grozaman guide I got 8.10.15137.148 (8.1.2 or 8.1 GDR2) with new settings men, Bluetooth keyboard compatibility and more....
    meh...
    now I feel ultra super depressed. I will throw this brick away. Its time to update to 950XL or going back to Android - LG V10 or Sony Z5
    :D
    Boris NevermorE and rotkod like this.
    10-03-2015 02:39 PM
  21. Boris NevermorE's Avatar
    I'm going after 950XL too :) and will keep ATIV S for further experimenting or hacking, hehe.
    anon(8316658) likes this.
    10-03-2015 02:50 PM
  22. lukas_ita's Avatar
    meh...
    now I feel ultra super depressed. I will throw this brick away. Its time to update to 950XL or going back to Android - LG V10 or Sony Z5
    :D
    I'm very happy with my Ativ S. If I can upgrade it to Win 10 (officially or with some hacks), I will stay with it at least an other year maybe
    Boris NevermorE likes this.
    10-04-2015 02:21 AM
  23. anon(8316658)'s Avatar
    I'm very happy with my Ativ S. If I can upgrade it to Win 10 (officially or with some hacks), I will stay with it at least an other year maybe
    You dont need any new functions?
    LTE, better camera, FULL HD display, bigger display (5.2 - 5.7), better sound quality, better performance etc.
    nothing?

    Iam bit pissed off because I want to use SnapChat but WP doesnt have this app... then I saw the new LG V10 (android) and was like.. dude, I need a new phone. ASAP :-D The new Microsoft 950XL should be ok but the design.... :-(
    10-04-2015 05:32 AM
  24. lukas_ita's Avatar
    You dont need any new functions?
    LTE, better camera, FULL HD display, bigger display (5.2 - 5.7), better sound quality, better performance etc.
    nothing?

    Iam bit pissed off because I want to use SnapChat but WP doesnt have this app... then I saw the new LG V10 (android) and was like.. dude, I need a new phone. ASAP :-D The new Microsoft 950XL should be ok but the design.... :-(

    Yes sure, but I can live anyway. I payed this phone 150 euros (used, but like new) more than an year and half ago and I think it's the best deal in my life. I will buy a new win 10 phone but I want to wait for better prices, no phone worths more than 600 euros/dollars, neither the best one in the world, IMHO eh.
    10-04-2015 06:38 AM
  25. anon(8316658)'s Avatar
    Yes sure, but I can live anyway. I payed this phone 150 euros (used, but like new) more than an year and half ago and I think it's the best deal in my life. I will buy a new win 10 phone but I want to wait for better prices, no phone worths more than 600 euros/dollars, neither the best one in the world, IMHO eh.
    Well... ok, its your choice but I need LTE so I need to change in the near future. I cant wait any longer. Ativ S is 3y. old now and it wont get WP10 (my opinion) so its time to move on. A new chapter waits on us :-)
    Dan Preda and Boris NevermorE like this.
    10-04-2015 10:27 AM
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