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  1. mary beth hale's Avatar
    I read the instructions carefully, as well as helpful replies in this post, then took the plunge. Worked for me, too. :)

    Those who "bricked" their phone beforehand managed to get it to work properly again afterwards. Glad I did this.
    That's fantastic!
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    04-22-2015 10:14 PM
  2. Matthew Becker1's Avatar
    That's fantastic!
    I'm really pleased. I've been sort of in a mood to upgrade, but now I should be good until at least the end of the year. No more Developer Preview for me, since I really want to sell this thing when I'm done. I've taken good care of it. :)
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    04-22-2015 11:05 PM
  3. mdvision's Avatar
    I read the instructions carefully, as well as helpful replies in this post, then took the plunge. Worked for me, too. :)

    Those who "bricked" their phone beforehand managed to get it to work properly again afterwards. Glad I did this.
    Nice. :) That's two for two and should reassure anyone else this may matter to. Strange there are not more posts by now once the Bell update came out. I know I had no expectations of this after aggressively pursuing Bell and Samsung and getting zero positive feedback. I also wonder how many Ativ S owners are still using them....perhaps not many now since only a minority would go through the DP install experience.

    In addition to announcing the Bell update release we also now know multiple update workarounds.

    • The CSC change from Rogers to Bell enables the firmware and WP8.1 update on Rogers phones.
    • The WP8.1 to WP8.0 reversion tools and procedure are verified for those running DP versions.
    • WP8.1 runs well on the Ativ S


    This thread went from done and dead to great new content in a very short time. Hope there are still Ativ S users out there to take advantage of it. Thanks Mary for your persistence. :)
    Last edited by mdvision; 04-23-2015 at 03:25 PM.
    04-22-2015 11:53 PM
  4. cims182's Avatar
    Wow, this post make's my day. This evening will update the phone to my girlfriend, will be more than happy.
    04-23-2015 10:27 AM
  5. Matthew Becker1's Avatar
    Nice. :) That's two for two and should reassure anyone else this may matter to. Strange there are not more posts by now once the Bell update came out. I know I had no expectations of this after aggressively pursuing Bell and Samsung and getting zero positive feedback. I also wonder how many Ativ S owners are still using them....perhaps not many now since only a minority would go though the DP install experience.
    Like many others, I just assumed that Samsung was finished with this phone. Not that it would have been a surprise, since it launched in December 2012. Usually their support period for phones is roughly two years. But seeing as we literally got nothing during that second support year (Dec 2013-Dec 2014), this is a welcome update. Whether or not we'll get Windows 10 remains to be seen (all WP8 handsets supposedly *can* be upgraded to W10).

    EDIT: Checking the Microsoft Store, they're still selling the Bell locked ATIV S. That's likely why Bell users were able to get the update. Rogers and TELUS have stopped carrying it for awhile now.
    Last edited by Matthew Becker1; 04-23-2015 at 12:07 PM.
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    04-23-2015 10:41 AM
  6. mdvision's Avatar
    Like many others, I just assumed that Samsung was finished with this phone. Not that it would have been a surprise, since it launched in December 2012. Usually their support period for phones is roughly two years. But seeing as we literally got nothing during that second support year (Dec 2013-Dec 2014), this is a welcome update. Whether or not we'll get Windows 10 remains to be seen (all WP8 handsets supposedly *can* be upgraded to W10).

    EDIT: Checking the Microsoft Store, they're still selling the Bell locked ATIV S. That's likely why Bell users were able to get the update. Rogers and TELUS have stopped carrying it for awhile now.
    FYI out of curiosity I checked the MS Store and found the ATIV S but it requires a click through to Bell. The link did not work so I went directly to Bell Mobility (BC) page to look for it. No dice.....I couldn't find it there....only Nokia Win phones. I did find some new and used ones on Kijji however. A new in box was listed there for $160 with a few others .....all in Ontario.

    Not sure why Bell finally released this update after such a long period of nonsupport....would really have liked to see and use WP8.1 MUCH earlier. Pretty sure this will be the last one we see... which is fine.

    I also sent in a "news tip" to this site to see if it gets a main page mention for those Canadian owners that have given up checking for updates on their Ativ S T899M variant.
    04-23-2015 04:10 PM
  7. Matthew Becker1's Avatar
    I also sent a news tip, with additional information stating that those running DP will not get the firmware update unless they use a third party utility to roll back. No dice.
    04-23-2015 09:39 PM
  8. mary beth hale's Avatar
    Wanted to say after using my Ativ S full time since doing the downgrade to 8.0/upgrade to 8.1, I have had absolutely no issues. Works flawlessly. Will be putting my 930 up for sale to get some extra cash and using the Ativ S until there is a Windows 10 phone. Honestly, the only thing I will miss is "hey Cortana", which I became addicted to.
    Last edited by mary beth hale; 04-24-2015 at 12:04 PM.
    04-24-2015 11:34 AM
  9. Matthew Becker1's Avatar
    Wanted to say after using my Ativ S full time since doing the downgrade to 8.0/upgrade to 8.1, I have had absolutely no issues. Works flawlessly. Will be putting my 930 up for sale to get some extra cash and using the Ativ S until there is a Windows 10 upgrade. Honestly, the only thing I will miss is "hey Cortana", which I became addicted to.
    • Not having the ringtone change to default upon reboot is nice.
    • Not having the phone's name change to default upon reboot is also nice.
    • I've noticed some micro improvements since the change, but that could be due to a fresh install of the OS. Everything about the DP worked rather well minus the camera (oddly enough, through ProShot the camera never crashed once).
    • Perhaps in another 16 months, we'll get Windows 10 (I doubt it. This may be the last update to the phone.)
    04-24-2015 11:46 AM
  10. mary beth hale's Avatar
    • Not having the ringtone change to default upon reboot is nice.
    • Not having the phone's name change to default upon reboot is also nice.
    • I've noticed some micro improvements since the change, but that could be due to a fresh install of the OS. Everything about the DP worked rather well minus the camera (oddly enough, through ProShot the camera never crashed once).
    • Perhaps in another 16 months, we'll get Windows 10 (I doubt it. This may be the last update to the phone.)
    If I never hear "over the horizon" again I will be happy:). I know I won't get Windows 10 on this phone, but it should last fine until the W10 phone are out.
    04-24-2015 12:16 PM
  11. FarStrider2001's Avatar
    It hasn't been my primary since last April since I imported a icon(which since denim it and its vzw siblings now have lte data/gsm voice/sms but drops to hspa & internet sharing doesn't work when set to lte) mainly kept it for anyplace tv. Out of curiosity once its upgraded is the option to move back to original carrier gone? Reason for asking is its not unlocked

    Yesterday I got this text from Rogers "Rogers msg: Exclusive offer for owner! Upgrade to any of our most popular smartphones now on select 2-year plans and we will credit you the rest of your early upgrade fees of $___.__ as of Apr 21, 2015 and also waive the $20 Connection Fee! Call for more details, offer available only by phone 1 855 213-0837. Quote offer code UPGRADENOW to take advantage of this great deal. This offer is only available for (___)-___-____ until April 30th, 2015. To opt-out of Rogers text msgs reply STOP. Reach us at http://roge.rs/reachus"
    04-24-2015 12:54 PM
  12. mdvision's Avatar
    Wanted to say after using my Ativ S full time since doing the downgrade to 8.0/upgrade to 8.1, I have had absolutely no issues. Works flawlessly. Will be putting my 930 up for sale to get some extra cash and using the Ativ S until there is a Windows 10 phone. Honestly, the only thing I will miss is "hey Cortana", which I became addicted to.
    Just the improvement in Bluetooth function makes this update shine. Connectivity and device support is way better. My general experience mirrors your own.
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    04-25-2015 12:15 PM
  13. garrettmiami06's Avatar
    Hi All,

    I just upgraded my Ativ S to 8.1. Everything works fine except for the fact that I'm unable to check for updates......I get the 80072f8f error. Verified that my date and time setting are correct, however, still no luck. Anyone else having this issue since their upgrade????
    04-26-2015 11:56 AM
  14. mdvision's Avatar
    Hi All,

    I just upgraded my Ativ S to 8.1. Everything works fine except for the fact that I'm unable to check for updates......I get the 80072f8f error. Verified that my date and time setting are correct, however, still no luck. Anyone else having this issue since their upgrade????
    Here is a link with instructions. It involves changing "date and time" but advises to turn off the auto settings. Try turning auto off on both "date and time" and "time zone". Do a soft reset. Go back and set both of those manually. Turn off and restart phone. Check for updates. Not sure this will work but is worth trying. Others have remedied this as you mentioned by making sure those settings match your region. Good luck.

    How to Fix Windows Phone Error 80072f8f While Software UpdateTechanges
    04-26-2015 12:56 PM
  15. mary beth hale's Avatar
    Hi All,

    I just upgraded my Ativ S to 8.1. Everything works fine except for the fact that I'm unable to check for updates......I get the 80072f8f error. Verified that my date and time setting are correct, however, still no luck. Anyone else having this issue since their upgrade????
    Mine did this right after getting 8.1 after reverting to 8.0. Hard reset and it was fine the next day. Hopefully temporary for you. I got the exact same error code and now it's fine
    04-26-2015 02:51 PM
  16. Matthew Becker1's Avatar
    Mine did this right after getting 8.1 after reverting to 8.0. Hard reset and it was fine the next day. Hopefully temporary for you. I got the exact same error code and now it's fine
    Interesting. I immediately did a reset once 8.1 was installed because I wanted to restore my backups. I wonder if I would have experienced this error, too.
    04-26-2015 05:07 PM
  17. FarStrider2001's Avatar
    I got the error on gdr3 a month after not checking for updates had to factory reset to clear it up
    04-27-2015 12:02 AM
  18. mary beth hale's Avatar
    Days after finally getting 8.1 w/firmware my Ativ S fell out of my pocket onto a concrete floor while i was 8 feet up on a ladder. Irreparably shattered. R.I.P. Little Ativ. Damn! What a great phone, though.
    04-29-2015 09:51 PM
  19. FarStrider2001's Avatar
    Looks like rogers rom is live only took a half hour to install the prep update. Started installing 8.1 15mins. ago.
    Dont remember having to read the new agreement when I updated my l929
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    04-30-2015 02:17 AM
  20. Kilika_g35's Avatar
    Days after finally getting 8.1 w/firmware my Ativ S fell out of my pocket onto a concrete floor while i was 8 feet up on a ladder. Irreparably shattered. R.I.P. Little Ativ. Damn! What a great phone, though.
    What a bummer! My condolences. :(
    mary beth hale likes this.
    04-30-2015 12:40 PM
  21. Matthew Becker1's Avatar
    Days after finally getting 8.1 w/firmware my Ativ S fell out of my pocket onto a concrete floor while i was 8 feet up on a ladder. Irreparably shattered. R.I.P. Little Ativ. Damn! What a great phone, though.
    Yikes. Are you now without a phone?
    04-30-2015 05:06 PM
  22. mary beth hale's Avatar
    Yikes. Are you now without a phone?
    I had already put my 930 up for sale on the marketplace. It hadn't sold so I had the mods close the thread. Now back using my 930, which is fine, but was looking forward to the extra cash from the sale. I don't know exactly why, but that Ativ S was my absolute favorite phone to use. I liked everything about it and would have been content to use it until I could afford a new flagship down the line.
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    04-30-2015 06:23 PM
  23. mary beth hale's Avatar
    What a bummer! My condolences. :(
    I know, right? Loved that phone.
    04-30-2015 06:24 PM
  24. Cdnwp's Avatar
    Worked for my Telus ATIV S, thanks to those that posted what I needed to revert to 8 then update to 8.1.
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    05-05-2015 03:06 PM
  25. Matthew Becker1's Avatar
    Worked for my Telus ATIV S, thanks to those that posted what I needed to revert to 8 then update to 8.1.
    Did you get the update directly from Telus, or did you have to switch the phone's CSC?
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    05-05-2015 05:58 PM
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