View Poll Results: Did you experience the infinite loop after today update ?

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  • Yes

    15 93.75%
  • No

    1 6.25%
08-14-2015 02:51 AM
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  1. Dragone's Avatar
    Did somebody manage to update his Ativ S running Developer Preview with today release without the infinite loop issue ?
    12-05-2014 04:30 PM
  2. t333to's Avatar
    Well, I read somewhere that one guys phone actually updated without the eternal loop. I'm not sure which OS version he was before.
    12-05-2014 04:50 PM
  3. Dragone's Avatar
    It's important to understand precisely the device model. Maybe he has an Ativ S Neo or SE or another variant ...
    12-05-2014 04:56 PM
  4. AK7777's Avatar
    When I upgraded to the latest DP, my Ativ S bootet normaly. Cortana didn't show up in the app list and there was no option in the settings to activate it (even changing Region, languange etc. to US wasn't successfull, this worked before the update).

    I decided to do a hard reset.

    Since I had the camera bug and didn't receive the latest firmware, I changed my CSC from XEF to ATO (the firmware was reported to be deployed in Austria) and then hard reseted the phone. After the restart the tile of Cortana was there. I searched for an update and got it. After the install my phone was starting with a Black screen with a blue windows logo (before it was the blue screen with a white logo) which means that I got the latest firmware from Samsung. Unfortunatly now reboot loop and I have to flash it to GDR3 (I hope I will get the regular WP 8.1 at least since DP will not work for me till an Update from MS is released).
    12-05-2014 07:21 PM
  5. Stefan Holder's Avatar
    Folks with the GT-I8750 variant are advised to refrain from updating to the latest Dev Preview for that very reason.. I'd advise you to wait for official fix from Microsoft or official update from Samsung.
    12-05-2014 09:22 PM
  6. SatanWantYou's Avatar
    I hope microsoft will die in hell with their useless buggy software...i hope my phone get cracked before my garranty finish...to refund my money and get an android :D...and don't tell me that its not microsoft fault...they need to make a compatible update with all firmwares...you mean its hard to do that?android how its doing?i was supporting windows phone ...but now that days was gone...i will not advice someone to but windows phone...its a crappy phone...microsoft don't care...now that's no more nokia...no more buyers haha...yes i'm a ******* rager...i don't care...
    12-06-2014 02:51 AM
  7. Stefan Holder's Avatar
    I hope microsoft will die in hell with their useless buggy software...i hope my phone get cracked before my garranty finish...to refund my money and get an android :D...and don't tell me that its not microsoft fault...they need to make a compatible update with all firmwares...you mean its hard to do that?android how its doing?i was supporting windows phone ...but now that days was gone...i will not advice someone to but windows phone...its a crappy phone...microsoft don't care...now that's no more nokia...no more buyers haha...yes i'm a ******* rager...i don't care...

    Dude, the developer preview is optional. This is beta releases for developers in mind, not for everyone even though anyone can get it. Microsoft warns that using the dev preview void warranty etc because they know there's a potential for issues. Microsoft is not responsible for OEM specific device firmware. They are responsible for the core OS. So you rant on Microsoft is uncalled for bruh. Those of us that registered and accepted the terms and agreements when signing up for the developers preview knew there was gonna be risks involved.
    Marquis de Faux likes this.
    12-06-2014 04:32 AM
  8. SatanWantYou's Avatar
    Dude, the developer preview is optional. This is beta releases for developers in mind, not for everyone even though anyone can get it. Microsoft warns that using the dev preview void warranty etc because they know there's a potential for issues. Microsoft is not responsible for OEM specific device firmware. They are responsible for the core OS. So you rant on Microsoft is uncalled for bruh. Those of us that registered and accepted the terms and agreements when signing up for the developers preview knew there was gonna be risks involved.
    I don't wanna fight with you because you "LIKE" microsoft but...why 70% people don't know anything about developer?Only real developers with some knowledge should get it not everybody...dont tell me that microsft dont know that...if you have a company and knew that are a lot of noobs on your developer application don't make it easy to get...its very easy...no more noobs no more complains..so hard? PEACE.
    12-06-2014 04:36 AM
  9. t333to's Avatar
    Well, with Lumia phones this is not a problem as they have that Software recovery tool that automatically installs the latest firmware and saves the phone. But with phones of other OEMs this is a major problem, luckily ATIV S is hacked and there are some FW's floating around and users can fix the phone but ATIV S is the only known exception... MS will need to offer the Software recovery tool to all the OEMs so even non-Lumias will have this secure option of auto firmware refresh.
    12-06-2014 06:13 AM
  10. t333to's Avatar
    It's important to understand precisely the device model. Maybe he has an Ativ S Neo or SE or another variant ...
    Yes I know, so here's what I found out.

    He had Samsung 8.1.1 update, his current About section:
    knsfefe.jpg

    BUT he didn't have an SD card inserted when updating - so SD card could be the source of the problem here.

    So did you guys SD card in or not? Anyone ready to gamble?
    12-06-2014 06:24 AM
  11. TecmanGR's Avatar
    I didn't have an sd card on my Ativ S when updated and I still got the loop problem. So I don't see that affecting the process.
    xxxneoxxx likes this.
    12-06-2014 06:38 AM
  12. SvT_AnToIn3's Avatar
    Hey guys. I heard people were able to revert their software version back to WP8 with the Ativ S. Is there a solution out there for the Ativ S Neo SGH-i187?

    Thanks
    12-06-2014 07:49 AM
  13. tofmin's Avatar
    Firmware 2424.13.5.1. No problems after update. So, the problem is the new firmware from Samsung?
    http://i.imgur.com/CAkLya1.png
    12-06-2014 09:24 AM
  14. msirapian's Avatar
    Yes there's a way, here's a tuto in French [MAJ] Solution aux redmarrages intempestifs du Samsung ATIV S - Mon Windows Phone (the blue box).
    12-06-2014 10:11 AM
  15. Stefan Holder's Avatar
    I don't wanna fight with you because you "LIKE" microsoft but...why 70% people don't know anything about developer?Only real developers with some knowledge should get it not everybody...dont tell me that microsft dont know that...if you have a company and knew that are a lot of noobs on your developer application don't make it easy to get...its very easy...no more noobs no more complains..so hard? PEACE.


    Again, you misunderstanding the purpose of it all. Take for instance the Windows 10 Technical Preview..while it is intended for devs and those with extensive knowledge on how to troubleshoot issues, they (Microsoft) made it available for anyone to get the bits. This is not a finished product that is universally ready for the masses. This is strictly "optional". No one is forcing anyone to use these previews. If some thing goes wrong then you can't just blame MS. You were the one that accepted the risk when you chose to use the preview. Again, Microsoft is not responsible for OEM device specific firmware. That is strictly up to the OEMs. And further more, it's not about me liking Microsoft. It's just wrong to blame MS for risks that you yourself opted to take upon yourself when they specifically warned that this will void your warranty etc..
    joepan, Motel75, AK7777 and 2 others like this.
    12-06-2014 11:43 AM
  16. AK7777's Avatar
    to tofmin: I had the firmware 2424.13.5.1 when I installed the update. Cortana did only show up after a hard reset and there was no rebout loop till I installed the update for firmware 2424.14.9.3.
    Don't know if the "problem" is the Samsung firmware, in any case it's clear that both don't work together...
    12-06-2014 05:43 PM
  17. tofmin's Avatar
    Yep. Thanks for warning. Don't change csc, don't install new Samsung firmware. Must wait for new update from MS or Samsung. Roger that.
    12-06-2014 05:59 PM
  18. Er_em's Avatar
    Hi to everyone :) as many of you, I got the infinite loops bug so i went back to gdr3 and i updated all over again. Now my phone has WP 8.1 Update 1 but i can't find the update for Cortana anymore. I tried to change my CSC, first ATO and then ITV but nothing. Is the fact that the update disappeared normal? Did they retired the update for Ativ s?
    12-10-2014 05:53 AM
  19. Mirakle's Avatar
    Hi to everyone :) as many of you, I got the infinite loops bug so i went back to gdr3 and i updated all over again. Now my phone has WP 8.1 Update 1 but i can't find the update for Cortana anymore. I tried to change my CSC, first ATO and then ITV but nothing. Is the fact that the update disappeared normal? Did they retired the update for Ativ s?
    I was wondering the same thing. My OS version is 14203.306 and firmware is 2424.14.9.3
    The phone (PfD mode) cannot seem to find the update at all.

    I tried the two following CSC: ATO and XEF. I checked my appstudio account and even registered it again as a dev phone through the registering application from the WP8 SDK. I tried to install the PfD wp application again.
    12-11-2014 06:49 AM
  20. anon(8316658)'s Avatar
    why would you install the same update again if you know that the infinite loop will be happening again? Whats the logic behind this? 1st install fail, 2nd install win? I dont get it... :D
    Stefan Holder likes this.
    12-11-2014 08:59 AM
  21. Er_em's Avatar
    I was wondering the same thing. My OS version is 14203.306 and firmware is 2424.14.9.3
    The phone (PfD mode) cannot seem to find the update at all.

    I tried the two following CSC: ATO and XEF. I checked my appstudio account and even registered it again as a dev phone through the registering application from the WP8 SDK. I tried to install the PfD wp application again.
    Yeah, i think that the issue is the new firmware: one friend of mine has the 2424.13.10.1 firmware version and he managed to get the European Cortana Update without any problems at all. I don't remember what kind of firmware i had when i received the update and got the infinite loops bug but now, with this new firmware and the PfD activated, i can't find it anymore.

    My question is: Are they retiring the update only for certain firmware version ( and in this case i don't have to worry but just to wait) or some kind of problem is avoiding me to get it again?

    Pappale, i don't want to get the bug again but i wanna be sure to be able to receive it again when it will be fixed and trying to figure out what is creating the problem. ;D
    12-11-2014 09:09 AM
  22. ranseb's Avatar
    Hi everyone,

    the German website drwindows.de reports that Microsoft will offer a fix for the boot loop-problem at least until Christmas. This was announced by Christian Maier from Microsoft in a video broadcast.

    See here: w w w.drwindows.de/content/5085-ativ-s-fix-fuer-developer-preview-inklusive.html

    Please remove spaces between the "www", I'm not allowed to post a link, because I haven't reached 10 posts yet. Pretty stupid!
    12-11-2014 11:04 AM
  23. Dragone's Avatar
    I confirm that, if you have the last samsung firmware, the os update bringing european Cortana is no longer downloadable.
    I have enabled DP, I have the last update with the % on the battery sense tile, but it doesn't find further updates.
    12-11-2014 11:26 AM
  24. Dragone's Avatar
    Hi everyone,

    the German website drwindows.de reports that Microsoft will offer a fix for the boot loop-problem at least until Christmas. This was announced by Christian Maier from Microsoft in a video broadcast.

    See here: w w w.drwindows.de/content/5085-ativ-s-fix-fuer-developer-preview-inklusive.html

    Please remove spaces between the "www", I'm not allowed to post a link, because I haven't reached 10 posts yet. Pretty stupid!
    I tried to traslate what they said but its not clear to me if they going to fix the problem before Christmas or not.
    12-11-2014 11:31 AM
  25. anon(8316658)'s Avatar
    Yeah, i think that the issue is the new firmware: one friend of mine has the 2424.13.10.1 firmware version and he managed to get the European Cortana Update without any problems at all. I don't remember what kind of firmware i had when i received the update and got the infinite loops bug but now, with this new firmware and the PfD activated, i can't find it anymore.

    My question is: Are they retiring the update only for certain firmware version ( and in this case i don't have to worry but just to wait) or some kind of problem is avoiding me to get it again?

    Pappale, i don't want to get the bug again but i wanna be sure to be able to receive it again when it will be fixed and trying to figure out what is creating the problem. ;D
    ok ok, but we all know that the bug is still there so why do you want to update to it again? If a newer update will be available then WPcentral will be the first to announce it :)
    12-11-2014 11:53 AM
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