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  1. LimeSoda's Avatar
    I know there is a firmware update thread but that has got too long now. So lets discuss Windows 10 mobile here. Anyone managed to successfully run Windows 10 mobile on the brilliant Ativ S? What will windows 10 give us Ativ S owners? I assume we will get it once we get to RTM?
    08-12-2015 06:07 PM
  2. Toutencarton's Avatar
    Hey,

    I successfully managed to update to the Windows Mobile 10 build 10512. However, I'm facing the same problem that I encountered on the build 10166 : I unable to do a complete hard reset. Every time I try to I face what Gabriel named the "app migration error" : I end up with an empty system : no store, no settings. Only a few applications like Skype, Now, Storage... :S

    NB : The update process works fine but I'd really like to do a hard reset.
    08-13-2015 03:37 AM
  3. lukas_ita's Avatar
    Hey,

    I successfully managed to update to the Windows Mobile 10 build 10512. However, I'm facing the same problem that I encountered on the build 10166 : I unable to do a complete hard reset. Every time I try to I face what Gabriel named the "app migration error" : I end up with an empty system : no store, no settings. Only a few applications like Skype, Now, Storage... :S

    NB : The update process works fine but I'd really like to do a hard reset.

    Try hard reset by button keys....search on Youtube for a guide 😉
    08-14-2015 07:58 AM
  4. Toutencarton's Avatar
    Already tried. Here is what I tried one week after the 10166 build was released :
    - Flash and update from GDR3 to 8.1 (FW 15.3.2)
    - Update to build 10166
    - Hard reset from settings
    -- No settings, no store
    - Hard reset using hardware method (keys combination at boot)
    -- No settings, no store
    - Hard reset using hardware method
    -- No settings, no store

    Fine, let's go back to 8.1 :
    - Flash and update from GDR3 to 8.1 (FW 15.3.2)
    - Update to build 10166
    - After a 2 days on it, issues appear with the Groove Music application
    - Hard reset from settings
    -- No settings, no store
    - One more using hardware method ?
    -- No settings, no store

    8.1 it is ! 8D

    As i said, I have the same problem with build 10512.
    All through the above processes described above I (not every time) put the phone (while reseting) in the freezer because it was very hot. I, sometimes, ended up with a few more applications installed but I was still missing the settings and the store.
    Each time during the reseting process, the progress bar stops at ~1/4.Then the phone reboot and I get the Welcome screen...

    One thing I haven't tried is reseting first using the hardware method first. I will give it a try later (depends on how buggy is the build after the update on my Ativ S).
    LimeSoda likes this.
    08-14-2015 08:25 AM
  5. anon(8316658)'s Avatar
    Already tried. Here is what I tried one week after the 10166 build was released :
    .....
    One thing I haven't tried is reseting first using the hardware method first. I will give it a try later (depends on how buggy is the build after the update on my Ativ S).
    ok, let me ask a simple question... WHY are you doing this? You can only brick your phone and loose time because WP10 wont work as it should on Ativ S. Its useless
    08-14-2015 10:50 AM
  6. Toutencarton's Avatar
    I don't have any particular reason, I just enjoy trying to tweak PC, phones...
    I might brick my phone one day, but I already have a backup device and plans to buy a new one (I'm just waiting for the new flagships).
    And Windows Mobile 10 works pretty well on the Ativ S. I haven't encountered any serious bug.
    08-14-2015 11:11 AM
  7. lukas_ita's Avatar
    I don't have any particular reason, I just enjoy trying to tweak PC, phones...
    I might brick my phone one day, but I already have a backup device and plans to buy a new one (I'm just waiting for the new flagships).
    And Windows Mobile 10 works pretty well on the Ativ S. I haven't encountered any serious bug.

    What version of flashtool are you using?
    08-14-2015 11:26 AM
  8. Toutencarton's Avatar
    SMD Binary Downloader 3.54 (available from grozaman's Yandex drive). Works with build 10166 and 10512.
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    08-14-2015 01:40 PM
  9. lukas_ita's Avatar
    SMD Binary Downloader 3.54 (available from grozaman's Yandex drive). Works with build 10166 and 10512.

    Ok thanks, I read with previous versions Atis S will be bricked
    08-14-2015 03:30 PM
  10. anon(8316658)'s Avatar
    so.. here is the first limitation (more to come?)

    Microsoft's Windows 10 Mobile update unlikely to come to 4GB phones | Windows Central

    I dont tkink that Samsung Ativ S will get WP10, its just too old now
    08-26-2015 02:55 AM
  11. reem zedek's Avatar
    Hey peoples... How can you upgrade the ativ s to win10???????? I searched in the internet guide but I not found...
    08-26-2015 07:17 AM
  12. Toutencarton's Avatar
    > Pappale
    Yes, but for the Ativ S, Windows 10 Mobile works pretty fine if we exclude the preview bugs. I think the upgrade limitation will be related to Samsung limited support.

    > reem zedek
    The Ativ S is not officialy part of the Insider Program and Windows 10 Mobile is not out yet. You can upgrade your Ativ S to preview builds by faking your phone model and using Windows Insider program.
    08-26-2015 08:59 AM
  13. Tony Saragosa's Avatar
    The Ativ S has more then 4 GB of storage space.
    So that will not be a limitation of the upgrade on the Ativ S.
    Neither will RAM, as some Lumia's that are currently supported have 512MB, which is half less then the Ativ S.
    I see no real limitations that would cut out the Ativ S, its higher end then some of the Nokia's that are supported ATM.
    Don't cut the Ativ S out yet, the only thing that might cut the phone out from upgrading to Mobile 10, is Samsung.
    08-26-2015 10:12 PM
  14. reem zedek's Avatar
    > Pappale
    Yes, but for the Ativ S, Windows 10 Mobile works pretty fine if we exclude the preview bugs. I think the upgrade limitation will be related to Samsung limited support.

    > reem zedek
    The Ativ S is not officialy part of the Insider Program and Windows 10 Mobile is not out yet. You can upgrade your Ativ S to preview builds by faking your phone model and using Windows Insider program.
    How can I fake my phone model? I tried the guide with Lumia 635 ( or same.. Don't remember) and its not working.. Can you send me a link to another guide??
    08-27-2015 12:42 AM
  15. anon(8316658)'s Avatar
    How can I fake my phone model? I tried the guide with Lumia 635 ( or same.. Don't remember) and its not working.. Can you send me a link to another guide??
    dont do it, you will brick your phone. Its not worth it. WP10 is slow and buggy on AtivS anyways
    08-27-2015 03:52 AM
  16. Toutencarton's Avatar
    How can I fake my phone model? I tried the guide with Lumia 635 ( or same.. Don't remember) and its not working.. Can you send me a link to another guide??
    I won't give you a link because you can find it if you know where to look.
    Plus, Windows 10 Mobile is still at a preview stage and the Samsung Ativ S is not officially supported. So if you can't find how to install it by yourself on your Ativ S, this preview is not for you.
    Sorry.
    reem zedek and cbmago like this.
    08-27-2015 07:20 AM
  17. Matthew Becker1's Avatar
    The ATIV S is nearly three years old. Samsung would have to put in support for an aging device in order to properly run Windows 10. People with an ATIV S should not expect an official upgrade to Windows 10. This isn't like installing the 8.1 preview on an 8.0 device; Windows 10 will not function on your phone as is.
    08-27-2015 10:48 AM
  18. lukas_ita's Avatar
    I will wait for the RTM before install Win10 faking the model
    Sent from my Ativ S with Tapatalk 2
    Dan Preda likes this.
    08-28-2015 01:53 AM
  19. anon(8316658)'s Avatar
    The ATIV S is nearly three years old. Samsung would have to put in support for an aging device in order to properly run Windows 10. People with an ATIV S should not expect an official upgrade to Windows 10. This isn't like installing the 8.1 preview on an 8.0 device; Windows 10 will not function on your phone as is.
    I can only agree with you
    Matthew Becker1 likes this.
    08-28-2015 04:03 AM
  20. lukas_ita's Avatar
    MS is going to release e new build with a lot bug fixes today or tomorrow. Will someone try it, if yes can he say how Ativ works??
    Sent from my Ativ S with Tapatalk 2
    09-10-2015 03:36 AM
  21. Matthew Becker1's Avatar
    People on this forum have had no success getting W10 to work on ATIV S in the past. This will be no different.
    09-10-2015 08:42 AM
  22. Dusan Randj's Avatar
    People on this forum have had no success getting W10 to work on ATIV S in the past. This will be no different.

    Yes we had success. I've had W10 on my former Ativ S and it worked on par as how it worked with simmilar Nokia devices. Maybe new build won't work, but some in the past had worked.
    09-10-2015 03:56 PM
  23. lukas_ita's Avatar
    Since MS want to make W10M work on Lumia Denim firmware I hope it will work on last Ativ Fw (24.24.15.3.2) without problems in RTM stage too
    Sent from my Ativ S with Tapatalk 2
    09-11-2015 04:24 AM
  24. assyriska's Avatar
    Anyone around who successfully installed the new 10536 preview?
    09-15-2015 04:41 AM
  25. lukas_ita's Avatar
    I can't find the update.....
    09-15-2015 04:52 AM
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