05-11-2014 03:32 PM
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  1. fatrat727's Avatar
    Got the Icon when it first came out but not the Ativ SE is about to come out. Simular spec wise but I wonder is the Ativ the better device? My Icon is great but I wish battery could be better. Should I switch for the Ativ SE? I know the cameras are different and the Ativ does not have SST but I'm in FL I don't need gloves lol. What do you guys think?
    Mmazeo likes this.
    04-04-2014 12:07 PM
  2. psychotron's Avatar
    I don't own an Icon but I have had a few Samsung Windows Phone devices and won't buy another one. No matter how good their phones might or might not be (and it's really hit and miss IMO) their support is nowhere near as good as Nokia as far as I'm concerned.
    04-04-2014 12:12 PM
  3. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    I would keep the icon. Nokia has proven to be the better manufacturer over the last two years or so. Samsung has been proven to barley give a damn about their windows phone.

    People use the excuse that Samsung updates their windows phone faster...well gee when you have like two models out there on limited carriers , I would hope that you can update your phone faster than the company with ten or more different models on multiple carriers across the world.

    Nokia apps are a reason to keep the icon. Granted the Samsung phones do have apps for their phones but that's like saying windows phone has apps....well android and ios has better apps and same goes for Nokia apps.

    Idk much about the battery life so I can't comment(I have a 1520) but in all honesty, I will probably stick with the company who has proven that they deserve the acclaim and popularity they have vs taking a rehashed phone that Samsung previously released and is now releasing as a hand me down.

    Plus Nokia software tends to add more features not found in the OS and they tend to support their phones better...and longer and Samsung definitely doesn't do thinks like amber, black and cyan.

    Stick with icon....
    04-04-2014 12:15 PM
  4. xboxonthego3's Avatar
    Honest opinion. Don't think it would be worth the switch. From what we know both have similar specs like you said. So I don't see much point in switching. Since there won't be a big difference other than design and support. You are better off saving money and sticking with your ICON. Unless something on this new phone is just amazingly better than the ICON which I doubt.
    04-04-2014 12:18 PM
  5. Blkacesvf41's Avatar
    The Icon is the better phone. Don't forget the Samsung's specs are basically the same as the GS4 which came out a year ago.
    04-04-2014 12:22 PM
  6. Flagz's Avatar
    I would go with the ATIV SE hands down. It would be a day one buy for any Sammy or HTC WP8 Flagship phone on Tmobile. My 925 was one of my worse upgrade decisions, it offers nothing original from my 8X or unlocked ATIV S.
    04-04-2014 12:27 PM
  7. Poirots Progeny's Avatar
    Nokia apps bring value but it comes down to how you use the phone and what you do.

    The Samsung has an sd card, so storage wont ever be a problem, and the Nokia Here Drive + will be in on it so it is actually a really good proposition. It is basically a repurposed gs4 - that device has been insanely popular. And wp8.1 will just fly on it.

    But then the 930 has that spectacular camera. But, of course, your storage is limited.

    Two excellent choices. Good lick deciding ;)
    CyberAngel_777 likes this.
    04-04-2014 12:34 PM
  8. Poirots Progeny's Avatar
    Oh, unless i am wrong (it does happen) the ativ se is better than the gs4 as it has the faster qualcom 800 quad core. Basically the innards are the same as the icon/930. So the differences are cosmetic, and the camera b the rest you get with the Sammy.
    04-04-2014 12:36 PM
  9. fatrat727's Avatar
    good responses. I just like the WatchOn feature. Only reason why I'm considering lol
    04-04-2014 12:53 PM
  10. Poirots Progeny's Avatar
    Well that 1080p is sweeeeeet! Lol.
    04-04-2014 01:30 PM
  11. ret18057's Avatar
    I have the Icon and I already ordered the SE. I had an S4, I like the form factor, and the Nokia "extras" (camera, camera button, etc) aren't worth the SD card and removable battery. Not to mention the lack of Glance (see all my other previous posts) and the whole "taking two pictures and only uploading the small one" thing makes my head hurt. The Nokia fanboys are off putting to me as well, so for me this is a better choice. My Icon will be up on ebay, of anyone is interested. I like WP enough to stay, and that should be the point for us all...
    A895, mary beth hale and ibbyj like this.
    04-04-2014 06:35 PM
  12. psychotron's Avatar
    good responses. I just like the WatchOn feature. Only reason why I'm considering lol
    As added value goes IMO it's Nokia apps > WatchOn, no question.
    CyberAngel_777 likes this.
    04-04-2014 06:50 PM
  13. onlysublime's Avatar
    I have the Icon and I already ordered the SE. I had an S4, I like the form factor,
    I can't stand the cheap plastic of the Samsungs. The Note 3 drove me crazy with the heavy-handed Samsung UI. the pleather was a neat gimmick though

    removable batteries and memory card slots are pluses though. But the camera and the video are key aspects for me.
    CyberAngel_777 likes this.
    04-05-2014 01:35 AM
  14. LumiaIcon's Avatar
    Got the Icon when it first came out but not the Ativ SE is about to come out. Simular spec wise but I wonder is the Ativ the better device? My Icon is great but I wish battery could be better. Should I switch for the Ativ SE? I know the cameras are different and the Ativ does not have SST but I'm in FL I don't need gloves lol. What do you guys think?
    Galaxy GS4 Recycled... Gotta hand it to them though, what a way to make the most of leftover stock
    gaurav makwana likes this.
    04-05-2014 02:30 AM
  15. LumiaIcon's Avatar
    I have the Icon and I already ordered the SE. I had an S4, I like the form factor, and the Nokia "extras" (camera, camera button, etc) aren't worth the SD card and removable battery. Not to mention the lack of Glance (see all my other previous posts) and the whole "taking two pictures and only uploading the small one" thing makes my head hurt. The Nokia fanboys are off putting to me as well, so for me this is a better choice. My Icon will be up on ebay, of anyone is interested. I like WP enough to stay, and that should be the point for us all...
    Build quality on Nokia is much better than Samsung...period. The imaging is better ... Period. The "small" photo is a function of the social networking platform limits and tge need to accommodate the persistent lack of an adequate data plan acquired by the "average" user - not the phone. At least Icon owners have the higher quality image rather than a phone that takes a lower quality image ONLY, simply to avoid "confusing" people.
    04-05-2014 02:59 AM
  16. tonyb81's Avatar
    I have an Icon myself and I'm considering the SE and the main reason is form factor. Sure its plastic but its going to be a slimmer and lighter phone. I love the premium feel of the Icon but I hate the bulk and heaviness of it.
    04-05-2014 07:26 AM
  17. tonyb81's Avatar
    Galaxy GS4 Recycled... Gotta hand it to them though, what a way to make the most of leftover stock
    How can it be a gs4 recycled when its dimensions and weight are different? The only similarities are screen size and camera.
    A895 and ibbyj like this.
    04-05-2014 07:30 AM
  18. Blkacesvf41's Avatar
    I have an Icon myself and I'm considering the SE and the main reason is form factor. Sure its plastic but its going to be a slimmer and lighter phone. I love the premium feel of the Icon but I hate the bulk and heaviness of it.
    Decisions, decisions.... I love Nokia but do hate those super square corners on the Icon and even the 928. Which is why I kept my 822 and will wait for new devices. Plus, the lack of glance was the last straw.
    Ek-Balam likes this.
    04-05-2014 07:31 AM
  19. Games Goblin's Avatar
    I think the ATIV SE is a good phone but it's overpriced.

    Icon over the ATIV SE: The icon has premium build quality, inbuilt qi charging, nokia exclusive features and the 20MP shooter.

    ATIV SE over the Icon: The ATIV SE is thinner and lighter than the icon, has the SD slot, IR blaster and a removable battery which is bigger than the icon's.

    I think the ATIV SE should have been priced $150 on contract and $499 off-contract. I think so because the ATIV SE is very similar to the Galaxy S4 (in looks and specifications); and the S4 is $99 on contract and $499 off-contract on VZW
    flyingsolid likes this.
    04-05-2014 07:45 AM
  20. ret18057's Avatar
    Build quality on Nokia is much better than Samsung...period. The imaging is better ... Period. The "small" photo is a function of the social networking platform limits and tge need to accommodate the persistent lack of an adequate data plan acquired by the "average" user - not the phone. At least Icon owners have the higher quality image rather than a phone that takes a lower quality image ONLY, simply to avoid "confusing" people.
    Man, you have too many periods...Tylenol for headaches, Midol for cramps...I kid.

    Look, I had an S2, S3, and an S4. I had ZERO issues with "build quality" (whatever that means, anyway). Period. The Nokia photo thing is just dumb to me. Semicolon. I respect and appreciate what ya'll thank about Nokias, for many it seems they inspire the same devotion iProducts do. Cool. Personally, whether you use Glance or Double Tap or not, or can live without them or not, or ever heard of them or not, they are features Nokia puts on their handsets. And they didn't on thier newest handsets. And that's dumb. Exclamation point. To me, anyway...to excuse it away as something YOU don't use or like it to be Brand Blind to the fact they have omitted features they created. Silly.

    But there ain't nothing WRONG with Samsung devices. If they idn't for you, cool, move on. But don't, please, don't keep making excuses for Nokia's shortcomings and making tired recriminations about Samsung devices you ain't never seen. Can we all just get along and be happy someone, anyone, is making a device that could potentially up our WP market share to 4% (questions mark)...

    Peace to you, brother. A
    04-05-2014 09:55 PM
  21. falconrap's Avatar
    Having held S4's in my hands many times, as well as S3's and Note 3's, Samsung phones are very flimsy feeling in comparison. They feel more like toys. The Icon is probably one of the best built phones I have ever laid my hands on, and I've had my hands on a great many. The Icon comes with 32GB instead of 16GB, but doesn't have the SD card. The ATIV has a removable battery, but that's also part of the reason why the build quality of the phone isn't as good, as it's not a monolithic phone, per se. If an extra oz of weight is a big deal, then that would be something to consider, but I just don't find the Icon to be heavy. I think the weight is good and well balanced. The camera is better on the Icon as well.

    It's all about your tastes and needs. For me, the Icon is the no-brainer. Your opinion may differ.
    04-05-2014 10:16 PM
  22. falconrap's Avatar
    I have the Icon and I already ordered the SE. I had an S4, I like the form factor, and the Nokia "extras" (camera, camera button, etc) aren't worth the SD card and removable battery. Not to mention the lack of Glance (see all my other previous posts) and the whole "taking two pictures and only uploading the small one" thing makes my head hurt. The Nokia fanboys are off putting to me as well, so for me this is a better choice. My Icon will be up on ebay, of anyone is interested. I like WP enough to stay, and that should be the point for us all...
    You do realize that Glance is a Nokia only feature and won't be on the Ativ SE, right? Why on earth is it hard for you to wrap your head around the 2 pictures thing? It's about mobile data use and social network restrictions. You can still connect your phone to your computer and load up the high res one if the site allows it. You can also use ProShot to get 10 MP shots in 4:3 ratio and 8MP shots in 16:9. So there are other options. Now, if the SD card and removable battery are big for you, that's fine. Those are respectable reasons for switching as people's needs do vary.
    metalchick719 likes this.
    04-05-2014 10:22 PM
  23. bayanii's Avatar
    Sticking with the Icon. I haven't used Samsung in a long time, so I can't really give you my input on that. Icon works for me.
    CyberAngel_777 likes this.
    04-05-2014 10:32 PM
  24. Zippier's Avatar
    I love my Samsung.......washer and dryer.

    Keeping my Icon.
    04-05-2014 11:11 PM
  25. ret18057's Avatar
    I respect your thoughts, I just don't agree. How it feels? It's a phone, it feels like a phone. The Icon is nice enough, it feels think and boxy to me, a little heavy, but okay...I realize that the Samsung (like all it's brethren) has a silly LED light that tells my simple, country azz, "hey, look at me, you missed something". No big deal to you? Live and be well, baby...it matters to me...

    The picture thing is silly to me. On this Earth I don't have data limits nor do I want to plug my phone in to a cable...give me the option to ditch the dumb 5M pic, and upload the hi res pic, and it's good. But no, can't do it on the Icon.

    Really, I keep saying the same sheet over and over...if you like Nokia, and think they are superior to all inferior phones, groove on, baby. I don't. But that ain't what's important. I like WP, and I assume you do too, since you been banging around with an OS with less thank 4% market share. So, the way I see it, we all should welcome as many seats at the table as we can get. More of us WP users, more apps, healthier ecosystem, we all win, right? Why all the hate? What works for you don't work for me, and vice versa. Why all the sheet talking?

    Peace, brothers, peace. If you want to fight, go fight Apple and Google, not your comrades on WP, just because they don't give a rats azz about a dedicated camera button or lenses clear enough to capture a goat's sphincter...

    And for the record, the SD card is my main motivator. Although, as an owner of several Samsung TVs, that compatibility is a bonus.
    04-06-2014 02:13 AM
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