**UPDATE:**
So, after a week, I "think" the ATIV will be my device. I like the slimmer profile, and the camera is good enough for me. The wireless charging (with adapter) and SD card makes it an easier choice.
I'll tell you this, I don't see this phone drawing away any Android users. For the same money, you get an S5 with all the latest bells and whistles, and full app support. There will have to be a watershed moment where WP gets that app support, or something to generate buzz, to attract more people. As it stands, folks like me that just want out of the Google ecosystem are the only ones who are going to convert. This phone is a great "gateway" for someone coming over, but WP isn't there yet to ENTICE people to move over. The Icon was ALMOST there, but the lack of SD and Glance, and the two picture thing, made it less appealing to a generalized end user like me. Nokia has it's fan base, but so far that yields them less than 4% of the market.
Oh, FWIW, the single press of the Windows key lights up the screen, no fumbling for the power button. +Samsung.
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Hey all,
For anyone who was interested, I got the ATIV (man, does that need an easier name. Is it A-TIV? AT-IV?). Anyway, I came to WP from an S4, and this was like going home. Not being a Nokia devotee, I don't have the predisposition towards thinking all things Sammy are junk. "Build quality" and all that. My initial impressions (I can go more in depth if anyone out there cares):
-This is a big one. I had a WiQiQi charging pad for an S4. It goes inside the battery cover, attaching to two terminals and covering most of the battery, but it works with the factory back cover. Guess what? Works like a champ with the ATIV SE. So, for me at least, wireless charging is handled with no added expense (I think the cost when I bought it was $50 with the adapter and the pad). Cool... the cases for the S4 don't work, but this nifty wireless charging thing did...
-If you like Samsung, this will "feel" right at home. The buttons are all in the familiar places. The LED, so far, is only for charging, but pressing the Windows button lights up the screen. Better (than the Icon). It is thinner than the Icon, but some may say that's the "inferior" build quality of Samsung. To me, it's sleeker and lighter. Much lighter.
-There is no camera button. This seems to be a VERY big deal to some people. Personally, I don't get it, but live and let live. I will post some side by side pics if anyone is interested. MS came out with some pretty good photo apps (at least at first glance). It's not Nokia quality by any stretch, but I didn't connect my Icon to the PC anyway, so honestly, I'm not sure what I'm missing.
-My 32g SD card worked like a charm, and 8.1 gave me the option to send apps, music, photos, etc. to the card. FWIW, I got my Icon on release day, and it was half full as of yesterday. Not a huge deal, but for whatever that means to you.
I HAD to put 8.1 on it right away, as WP8 was no so good to me...8.1 is an easier transition.
My first impression is that this is a good gateway device to transition someone from Android to WP. It is a familiar look and feel, with the same basic "features" Android Sammy folks are used to.
I will say that the app thing continues to be a pain. I told my friends that being on WP is a conscious choice, most apps either aren't official or are infrequently updated or buggy as Hell (see: At Bat 2014). Committing to WP is a labor of love (or a real desire to get out of the Google ecosystem). If anyone wants anything more I shall try and oblige...I like it so far...
So, after a week, I "think" the ATIV will be my device. I like the slimmer profile, and the camera is good enough for me. The wireless charging (with adapter) and SD card makes it an easier choice.
I'll tell you this, I don't see this phone drawing away any Android users. For the same money, you get an S5 with all the latest bells and whistles, and full app support. There will have to be a watershed moment where WP gets that app support, or something to generate buzz, to attract more people. As it stands, folks like me that just want out of the Google ecosystem are the only ones who are going to convert. This phone is a great "gateway" for someone coming over, but WP isn't there yet to ENTICE people to move over. The Icon was ALMOST there, but the lack of SD and Glance, and the two picture thing, made it less appealing to a generalized end user like me. Nokia has it's fan base, but so far that yields them less than 4% of the market.
Oh, FWIW, the single press of the Windows key lights up the screen, no fumbling for the power button. +Samsung.
<<<>>>
Hey all,
For anyone who was interested, I got the ATIV (man, does that need an easier name. Is it A-TIV? AT-IV?). Anyway, I came to WP from an S4, and this was like going home. Not being a Nokia devotee, I don't have the predisposition towards thinking all things Sammy are junk. "Build quality" and all that. My initial impressions (I can go more in depth if anyone out there cares):
-This is a big one. I had a WiQiQi charging pad for an S4. It goes inside the battery cover, attaching to two terminals and covering most of the battery, but it works with the factory back cover. Guess what? Works like a champ with the ATIV SE. So, for me at least, wireless charging is handled with no added expense (I think the cost when I bought it was $50 with the adapter and the pad). Cool... the cases for the S4 don't work, but this nifty wireless charging thing did...
-If you like Samsung, this will "feel" right at home. The buttons are all in the familiar places. The LED, so far, is only for charging, but pressing the Windows button lights up the screen. Better (than the Icon). It is thinner than the Icon, but some may say that's the "inferior" build quality of Samsung. To me, it's sleeker and lighter. Much lighter.
-There is no camera button. This seems to be a VERY big deal to some people. Personally, I don't get it, but live and let live. I will post some side by side pics if anyone is interested. MS came out with some pretty good photo apps (at least at first glance). It's not Nokia quality by any stretch, but I didn't connect my Icon to the PC anyway, so honestly, I'm not sure what I'm missing.
-My 32g SD card worked like a charm, and 8.1 gave me the option to send apps, music, photos, etc. to the card. FWIW, I got my Icon on release day, and it was half full as of yesterday. Not a huge deal, but for whatever that means to you.
I HAD to put 8.1 on it right away, as WP8 was no so good to me...8.1 is an easier transition.
My first impression is that this is a good gateway device to transition someone from Android to WP. It is a familiar look and feel, with the same basic "features" Android Sammy folks are used to.
I will say that the app thing continues to be a pain. I told my friends that being on WP is a conscious choice, most apps either aren't official or are infrequently updated or buggy as Hell (see: At Bat 2014). Committing to WP is a labor of love (or a real desire to get out of the Google ecosystem). If anyone wants anything more I shall try and oblige...I like it so far...
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