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  1. rmabwing5's Avatar
    Yes it gets quiet always. By the way .318 update is out. Updated just not. It says improvements in battery department. Lets see what changes this one makes
    Thanks for the heads up Sabir, downloading now. We'll see how it does with the huge battery I have.
    05-11-2016 12:25 PM
  2. Werentuckl's Avatar
    Tell us both your battery, performance, and stability, camera issues updates and review of the .318 update. Looking forward to it with my fingers crossed. Cross Atlantic phone deliveries just cant happen fast enough for me to get my hands on this myself already. :(

    -- W
    05-11-2016 04:21 PM
  3. rmabwing5's Avatar
    Tell us both your battery, performance, and stability, camera issues updates and review of the .318 update. Looking forward to it with my fingers crossed. Cross Atlantic phone deliveries just cant happen fast enough for me to get my hands on this myself already. :(

    -- W
    Will do, give me about a week to test.
    05-11-2016 04:28 PM
  4. Sabir Nadaf's Avatar
    Tell us both your battery, performance, and stability, camera issues updates and review of the .318 update. Looking forward to it with my fingers crossed. Cross Atlantic phone deliveries just cant happen fast enough for me to get my hands on this myself already. :(

    -- W
    A fast look up is that battery department is very stable. No heating at all while moderate usage. My ativ se is active very normal as it was on 8.1. Only thing is stock camera app still do not work with flash on. I have this issue on every build so i use ativ camera. Else everything is good with the update. I will uodate with other details soon.
    05-11-2016 09:43 PM
  5. rmabwing5's Avatar
    A fast look up is that battery department is very stable. No heating at all while moderate usage. My ativ se is active very normal as it was on 8.1. Only thing is stock camera app still do not work with flash on. I have this issue on every build so i use ativ camera. Else everything is good with the update. I will uodate with other details soon.
    I agree, the stock camera is junk on these phones. I took some very horrible pictures then switched back to ATIV Camera which takes great photos, imho. Certainly not an SLR but works tons better than stock.
    05-11-2016 10:07 PM
  6. Its me Abzee's Avatar
    can somebody share the zip with me?
    seems the path is invalid or zip has been removed..
    this link is invalid "First things first -> Download this ZIP"
    05-12-2016 01:24 AM
  7. rmabwing5's Avatar
    can somebody share the zip with me?
    seems the path is invalid or zip has been removed..
    this link is invalid "First things first -> Download this ZIP"
    Go here
    WinBie likes this.
    05-12-2016 06:18 AM
  8. rmabwing5's Avatar
    Abzee, were you ever able to get the file from the link I left?
    05-22-2016 10:26 AM
  9. rmabwing5's Avatar
    Is this thread dying?
    05-22-2016 10:27 AM
  10. Sabir Nadaf's Avatar
    Is this thread dying?
    Dead
    05-23-2016 11:24 PM
  11. darrell reimer's Avatar
    I tried but my phone will not update past 10586.218 no matter what I try.
    A while back i got to Redstone; now i can't get past this: wp_ss_20160528_0001.jpg
    05-28-2016 07:53 PM
  12. rmabwing5's Avatar
    A while back i got to Redstone; now i can't get past this: Click image for larger version. 

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    I found a way to get back to Redstone. Change your registry with Root Tool (If you have it installed, if not install it).

    HKLM -> SYSTEM -> Platform -> DeviceTargetInfo -> PhoneManufacturer: MicrosoftMDG (click on write); PhoneManufacturerModelName: RM-1085_11302 (click on write).

    Now here's where the change is:

    Microsoft made some changes so that the latest Redstone update 14295 couldn't be received with the registry hacks. Change "PhoneModelName" to Lumia 950 XL and "PhoneHardwareVariant" to RM-1085.

    Go to Windows Insider app and apply to the fast ring. Let the phone reboot if needed and check for updates under Settings -> Updates & Security. The latest Redstone build should show up. Install it.

    Thanks to this post here, I parsed out information for our phones and modified slightly to post here and it seems to work like a charm. Enjoy.

    ps. Here's what showed up when I checked for updates:
    Update: 10.0.14342.1004.
    Insider Fast configuration update.
    Configuration update.

    My battery is under 40% full at the moment but as soon as it is up to snuff, I will finish the install.

    UPDATE: After a couple of minor hiccups the upgrade finished and it seems like the latest build is working fine. Here's the hiccups:
    1. Phone locked up at the end of the update; had to restart phone twice (locked up again after first restart)
    2. Haptic feedback of return button and Cortana buttons didn't work (after the restarts, they worked)

    Preliminary Observations:
    1. Battery seemed to be quite hot but seems to have steadied out at a semi-warm to cool after overnight charge
    2. Battery is taking quite some time to fully charge (remember, I have a huge battery) where as before it would charge fairly quick.
    Last edited by rmabwing5; 05-29-2016 at 10:46 AM.
    05-28-2016 10:30 PM
  13. Its me Abzee's Avatar
    Thanks Bro..
    unfortunately I cant check if the link is dead or alive from my office network.
    lemme reach home and update you..
    however, irrespective of the link status (dead or alive) I really want to thank you for your support.

    /abzee
    05-30-2016 03:04 AM
  14. rmabwing5's Avatar
    I found a way to get back to Redstone. Change your registry with Root Tool (If you have it installed, if not install it).

    HKLM -> SYSTEM -> Platform -> DeviceTargetInfo -> PhoneManufacturer: MicrosoftMDG (click on write); PhoneManufacturerModelName: RM-1085_11302 (click on write).

    Now here's where the change is:

    Microsoft made some changes so that the latest Redstone update 14295 couldn't be received with the registry hacks. Change "PhoneModelName" to Lumia 950 XL and "PhoneHardwareVariant" to RM-1085.

    Go to Windows Insider app and apply to the fast ring. Let the phone reboot if needed and check for updates under Settings -> Updates & Security. The latest Redstone build should show up. Install it.

    Thanks to this post here, I parsed out information for our phones and modified slightly to post here and it seems to work like a charm. Enjoy.

    ps. Here's what showed up when I checked for updates:
    Update: 10.0.14342.1004.
    Insider Fast configuration update.
    Configuration update.

    My battery is under 40% full at the moment but as soon as it is up to snuff, I will finish the install.

    UPDATE: After a couple of minor hiccups the upgrade finished and it seems like the latest build is working fine. Here's the hiccups:
    1. Phone locked up at the end of the update; had to restart phone twice (locked up again after first restart)
    2. Haptic feedback of return button and Cortana buttons didn't work (after the restarts, they worked)

    Preliminary Observations:
    1. Battery seemed to be quite hot but seems to have steadied out at a semi-warm to cool after overnight charge
    2. Battery is taking quite some time to fully charge (remember, I have a huge battery) where as before it would charge fairly quick.
    UPDATE 2: DO NOT GO TO THE LATEST BUILD OF REDSTONE. ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS, INCLUDING MISSING MICROSOFT ACCOUNT WITH NO POSSIBLE WAY TO GET IT.

    Sorry for all caps, want everyone who is still reading this to make sure to read the above.
    05-30-2016 11:51 AM
  15. Its me Abzee's Avatar
    dropbox download link working pretty fine.
    can you please let me know the final version of windows 10 which is known to be stable for ativ se?
    as per you, it seems redstone is quite buggy and not stable..

    Thanks/
    /abzee
    05-31-2016 02:39 AM
  16. Its me Abzee's Avatar
    okay, i did everything step by step...
    changed registry, chose fast ring and after downloading update, it asked me to restart.. did that as wel.
    after that, updates were installed...
    however, now. phones not booting. i see a blue rectangle of microsoft, green light blinks at the top and phone trying to restart itself..
    goes into same loop. blue microsoft square, green light blinks at the top, phone restarts...
    i dont think, i ve done anything wrong...
    its just bit unfortunate of me here.
    can some one help me out pls?
    05-31-2016 04:44 AM
  17. PuckCowboy's Avatar
    10586.318 Threshold vs. 14384.1004 Redstone:

    So I have two ATIV SEs, and thanks to the posts above, I was able to get back on track with both update options. By far and away, 10586.318 is a better daily driver, and is my new daily driver after upgrading from 8.1. It's smoother, apps, work, hot spot tethering works even better than 8,1, the Live tiles work, Cortana works, and battery life seems to be okay. (I'm going to let it cycle through and calm down for a day before making any battery claims compared to 8.1 since it's still draining faster than 8.1.)

    As for Redstone, just way too buggy. Many live Tiles stop working randomly (reboots don't help), lockscreen freezes up, phone freezes up frequently, apps often crash, and app were getting stuck as pending in the main list, and battery drain was REALLY bad.

    For now, at this early testing stage for me, 10586.318 is extremely solid and will be using it going forward. I actually love it and feel like I have a new phone again after using 8.1 for the past several months.
    Last edited by PuckCowboy; 05-31-2016 at 04:53 PM.
    05-31-2016 09:54 AM
  18. rmabwing5's Avatar
    dropbox download link working pretty fine.
    can you please let me know the final version of windows 10 which is known to be stable for ativ se?
    as per you, it seems redstone is quite buggy and not stable..

    Thanks/
    /abzee
    Abzee, looks like the best build for our phones is 10586.318. I tried twice to go to Redstone, knowing I've done it before, but the latest build of that is way buggy. I've had to revert back to 8.1 twice now in the last 24 hours. If you need to get out of a boot loop, you will need to revert back to 8.0, upgrade to 8.1 then start over with the 10 build. You can find the flashing tool in the same Dropbox folder above (Go here).

    RW
    05-31-2016 04:22 PM
  19. Rathin Chandra's Avatar
    i have updated to windows mobile 10.0.10586.318 choosing the 'Insider Release Preview' option in the windows insider. Is there any way to change it to 'Insider Fast' option? Whenever i open windows insider app and choose fast option, my device reboots and not getting any updates.
    Last edited by Rathin Chandra; 06-01-2016 at 12:29 AM. Reason: spelling mistake
    06-01-2016 12:28 AM
  20. rmabwing5's Avatar
    i have updated to windows mobile 10.0.10586.318 choosing the 'Insider Release Preview' option in the windows insider. Is there any way to change it to 'Insider Fast' option? Whenever i open windows insider app and choose fast option, my device reboots and not getting any updates.
    You most likely will not get anymore updates. Microsoft has changed the registration process so as to not allow updates by hacking the registry. Fortunately someone figured out how to get around it (still with hacking the registry) by changing a few more values in the registry. I wouldn't recommend going any further with the updates, though, because the next one is the latest version of Redstone which I can tell you from experience, it is buggy as hell. I tried and ended up with pretty much a useless phone. See my my post above. I had to restore back to stock twice then get to the latest Insider Release, not Fast Ring to have a stable and great phone again.
    06-01-2016 02:15 PM
  21. Jeemo's Avatar
    I've been trying multiple upgrade routes to get Redstone working smoothly on the Ativ SE. When I come up with a method that results in a phone suited for daily use, I'll share that info.
    06-01-2016 04:42 PM
  22. PuckCowboy's Avatar
    10586.318 Threshold vs. 14384.1004 Redstone:

    So I have two ATIV SEs, and thanks to the posts above, I was able to get back on track with both update options. By far and away, 10586.318 is a better daily driver, and is my new daily driver after upgrading from 8.1. It's smoother, apps, work, hot spot tethering works even better than 8,1, the Live tiles work, Cortana works, and battery life seems to be okay. (I'm going to let it cycle through and calm down for a day before making any battery claims compared to 8.1 since it's still draining faster than 8.1.)

    As for Redstone, just way too buggy. Many live Tiles stop working randomly (reboots don't help), lockscreen freezes up, phone freezes up frequently, apps often crash, and app were getting stuck as pending in the main list, and battery drain was REALLY bad.

    For now, at this early testing stage for me, 10586.318 is extremely solid and will be using it going forward. I actually love it and feel like I have a new phone again after using 8.1 for the past several months.
    UPDATE 2: Updated to 10586.338 today (was released yesterday on Insider Release Preview). Was a bit jumpy at first, but then it auto rebooted itself and has been good since. So far, so smooth.
    06-01-2016 05:02 PM
  23. rmabwing5's Avatar
    UPDATE 2: Updated to 10586.338 today (was released yesterday on Insider Release Preview). Was a bit jumpy at first, but then it auto rebooted itself and has been good since. So far, so smooth.
    I updated to 10586.338 also. It seems quite stable and the battery doesn't get hot or drain quickly. It wasn't jumpy for me. So far, so good.
    06-02-2016 12:49 PM
  24. darrell reimer's Avatar
    10586.318 Threshold vs. 14384.1004 Redstone:

    So I have two ATIV SEs, and thanks to the posts above, I was able to get back on track with both update options. By far and away, 10586.318 is a better daily driver, and is my new daily driver after upgrading from 8.1. It's smoother, apps, work, hot spot tethering works even better than 8,1, the Live tiles work, Cortana works, and battery life seems to be okay. (I'm going to let it cycle through and calm down for a day before making any battery claims compared to 8.1 since it's still draining faster than 8.1.)

    As for Redstone, just way too buggy. Many live Tiles stop working randomly (reboots don't help), lockscreen freezes up, phone freezes up frequently, apps often crash, and app were getting stuck as pending in the main list, and battery drain was REALLY bad.

    For now, at this early testing stage for me, 10586.318 is extremely solid and will be using it going forward. I actually love it and feel like I have a new phone again after using 8.1 for the past several months.
    I've got 2 SE's; on one, i've got .318; the other, i've gone back to 8.1, just to compare. Wow - 8.1 is so snappy and quick on this phone!!! Battery life is double (or even a bit more) than my phone running Win 10. Man, what a shame; this phone runs so cool and awesome on 8.1; too bad that it's being left behind. .318 battery life is still poor. I've also got a Lumia 830; just installing the latest fast ring; i'll see how it plays out. Thanks rmabwing5 for all your work on this!
    06-02-2016 11:53 PM
  25. darrell reimer's Avatar
    I updated to 10586.338 also. It seems quite stable and the battery doesn't get hot or drain quickly. It wasn't jumpy for me. So far, so good.
    This is working well for me!
    wp_ss_20160602_0001.jpg
    06-07-2016 11:57 PM
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