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  1. rmabwing5's Avatar
    WARNING: Making software or hardware modifications to your device can nullify your warranty and/or make your device unusable. Proceed at your own risk.

    This is a new and improved update guide for upgrading the Samsung ATIV SE Windows phone from Win 8.0 to Win 10, build 15xxx.xxx. This guide is for all INSIDER RINGS.

    Thanks goes to PuckCowbow (05/17/2017) for daring to try the Lumia 950 settings - I have confirmed they work. Our ATIV SE's aren't down and out yet.

    We all play a big part in helping each other here and I thank all those that have helped me.

    This guide is based upon a PC running Window 10. If you are still running Windows XP, 7, or 8.1 file paths may be different.

    Follow the instructions closely or you may have problems or even brick your phone.

    Disclaimer: I shall not be held responsible for any problems or bricking of phones. All directions are given in a precise manner but shall be used at your own risk.


    You can download all the tools needed from here.

    Steps to upgrade the Samsung ATIV SE phone to Windows 10.

    Make sure you are on the latest build for Window 8.1.x (Should be 8.10.14219.341 NOTE: This update will happen after following the steps outlined in this thread). If you are still on Windows 8.0.x, you will need to get all the updates to get to the latest build of Win 8.10.x.

    Note: I like to reboot the phone in between updates.

    Also, make sure you have a full battery (the phone will not update if the battery is under 40% charged).

    1. Set up your phone (follow screen prompts as needed but the following is mandatory):
    a. Connect to WiFi
    b. Sign in to your Microsoft account
    c. If you have backups, DO NOT, restore them
    d. Skip the Verizon setup procedure
    e. Make sure the time and date are correct
    f. Upgrade phone to build 8.10.14203.306
    2. Go to the Windows Store:
    a. Install “Windows Insider” app
    3. Go to Settings > Date+Time
    a. Turn off "Set date and time automatically"
    b. Set the date forward 100 years
    4. Go to Settings
    a. Tap on "Call/Message Settings"
    b. Select "Uninstall"
    5. Go to Settings > Date+Time
    a. Set date back to its correct setting
    6. Plug your phone into your PC (Be sure your PC sees the phone)
    7. On the PC go to Start > All Apps > Windows Phone 8.1 SDK: NOTE: If you do not have the Win SDK, feel free to use one of the ones from the downloads.
    a. Open Windows Phone Developer Registration 8.1 (make sure your phone is unlocked and on the “Start” screen, if needed, go to Settings on your phone and adjust the screen timeout).
    b. Click on “Register”
    c. Sign in to your Microsoft Account
    d. Click on “Close” after successfully unlocking your phone
    8. On the PC go to Start > All Apps > Windows Phone 8.1 SDK again:
    a. Open Windows Phone Application Deployment 8.1
    b. Leave Target as “Device”
    c. For App, browse to where you saved the samWPSystem.xap file (should be in the "4pda" folder) and select it (make sure your phone is unlocked and on the “Start” screen).
    d. Click on “Deploy”
    e. Close the dialogue box
    9. Copy InteropUnlocker_SE_81.xap and wphTweaks_v10.xap to root of sd card NOTE: Not sure why wphTweaks needs to be there.
    10. Create a blank file using Notepad (on the PC) and save it as Non-Production Errors
    11. Copy the Non-Production Errors file to the documents folder on the phone
    12. In Storage Sense
    a. Set "Store new apps on my" to SD Card
    13. Open CustomWPSystem app on your phone (in the apps list):
    a. Click on “SD Card Permissions” (it is the first RED button)
    b. Select “SD Card”
    c. Click on the check at the bottom of the screen (“SD Card Permissions” is now GREEN)
    d. Click on "Unhide wpSystem"
    e. Select Target App as AdditionalCallSettings
    f. Click on "Download from Store"
    g. Select InteropUnlocker_SE_81.xap
    h. Click on "Apply XAP"
    i. Click “OK”

    NOTE: e. and f. don't work for me. A work around is to just go to the Store and search for AdditionalCallSettings and install it manually. Then ignore that part in wpSystem.

    14. Go to Settings
    a. Click on "@D:\WPSystem\Apps\(and some number)"
    NOTE: This may be different for some, it's all the way at the bottom of the list
    b. Click "Unlock"
    c. Click "Okay"
    15. On the PC go to Start > All Apps > Windows Phone 8.1 SDK again:
    a. Open Windows Phone Application Deployment 8.1
    b. Leave Target as “Device”
    c. For App, browse to where you saved the wphTweaks.xap file (should be in the "4pda" folder) and select it (make sure your phone is unlocked and on the “Start” screen).
    d. Click on “Deploy”
    e. Close the dialogue box
    16. In your apps list you will now find WPH Tweaks app.
    a. Click to open the app

    NOTE: The first time you open the app it will ask a formality question and you will need to move the slider over to the right to accept.

    b. Slide over to "Tools"
    c. Click on "Registry Editor"
    i. Double tap "System"
    ii. Double tap "Platform"
    iii. Double tap "DeviceTargetingInfo"
    d. Double tap "PhoneManufacturer"
    i. Type "Microsoft"
    ii. Click on "Save"
    e. Double tap PhoneManufacturerModelName
    i. Type RM-1105_12716
    ii. Click on Save
    f. Double tap PhoneModelName
    i. Type Lumia 950
    ii. Click on Save
    g. Double tap PhoneHardwareVariant
    i. Type 0 (that's zero)
    ii. Click on Save
    17. Open “Windows Insider app”:
    a. Click on “Get Preview Builds”
    b. Select “Insider Release Preview”
    c. Click the arrow button at the bottom of the screen
    d. Click Accept
    e. Click the check button at the bottom of the screen
    18. Reboot phone
    19. Check for updates:
    a. Settings > Phone Update
    i. Click on “Check for Updates”
    ii. Update as needed

    NOTE: You may have to run Windows Insider once; you may or may not have to do anything. I sometimes just open it and things start working or I have to run through the WI setup again. Never know.

    20. Check for updates again
    21. Let phone update to current build
    22. HAVE FUN!

    If there are any errors in this guide, please let me know.

    - RW
    Last edited by rmabwing5; 05-25-2017 at 08:59 PM. Reason: Updated some odd wordings.
    06-12-2016 02:49 PM
  2. Werentuckl's Avatar
    You are everyones hero RW! Congrats on the new guide brother. :) ^_^

    -- W
    06-13-2016 01:24 PM
  3. Werentuckl's Avatar
    You are everyones hero RW! Congrats on the new guide brother. :) ^_^

    -- W
    06-13-2016 01:25 PM
  4. Muessig's Avatar
    Fantastic work! Thanks for sharing!
    06-13-2016 01:30 PM
  5. rmabwing5's Avatar
    A new 10586 update was released; is now .420.

    - RW
    06-14-2016 12:52 PM
  6. JM_Thomas's Avatar
    Getting the .420 build now. Will report how it goes.
    06-15-2016 11:17 AM
  7. Werentuckl's Avatar
    I just made a weed joke about it on the other thread. I feel kind of naughty about it. :P

    Such juvenile. Much Waow. But on that note. New buillddddd!!! :D :D :D :D :D

    -- W
    06-15-2016 11:56 AM
  8. JM_Thomas's Avatar
    Dude.....updated.....no problem.....

    Charging my phone now, was about 50%, going to top it up and then see how she does on batter consumption. Not seeing any issues from trying a few of my favorite apps, looking good so far.
    06-15-2016 12:52 PM
  9. Jeemo's Avatar
    I guess MS needed to make a withdrawal from the dank bank
    06-15-2016 05:29 PM
  10. JM_Thomas's Avatar
    .420 build running good, though found one issue.

    If there is a picture attached to a text message, I can't open the picture to view it outside the test message. Have to save it to storage, then open it. Not major, but annoying.
    Last edited by JM_Thomas; 06-16-2016 at 09:21 AM. Reason: Spelling
    06-16-2016 09:20 AM
  11. Werentuckl's Avatar
    Thomas, that is standard behaviour I think. It is to keep from your application storage from bloating up. The same happens with emails too, you have to save your attachments or media to view it outside of the source application and in your galleries/document. :)

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but this is how I think it works anyways. :)

    -- W
    06-16-2016 12:54 PM
  12. JM_Thomas's Avatar
    .420 status report. Working great, very smooth and stable. After 12 hours of moderate to heavy useage (Net, FB, 5 email accounts updating, Twitter, some gaming over lunch) I had 65% battery with both Wi-Fi and cell data both on.

    This build rocks and I will probably stay with it, unless something earth shattering is added (full USB-OTG function would be probably be the only thing that would push me to another build right now).
    06-17-2016 11:02 AM
  13. darrell reimer's Avatar
    A new 10586 update was released; is now .420.

    - RW
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    Got this update a few days ago; overall: Good! My phone still does the odd random re-start; the camera sometimes freezes; even when i close off everything, it seems something is sometimes running in the background, making my phone hot. I restart, and this resolves the issue, and it runs cool again.
    06-18-2016 11:09 PM
  14. Werentuckl's Avatar
    Having issues with getting the Phone Dev Registration to detect my ATIV RW, posted some screenshots on the other thread. Anybody want to look into it and lend a hand folks? Really bummed out and stumped here for solutions. :(

    -- W
    06-26-2016 09:59 AM
  15. Werentuckl's Avatar
    .494 out and stable folks. I'm running it as we speak. :)

    -- W
    07-12-2016 11:50 PM
  16. rmabwing5's Avatar
    .494 out and stable folks. I'm running it as we speak. :)

    -- W
    Thanks -- W, I updated the thread.

    - RW
    07-13-2016 05:48 AM
  17. westnz's Avatar
    Is an actual SD Card needed or you guys just mean the drive that shows up in my computer when you plug it into a pc. thanks.
    07-13-2016 05:57 AM
  18. rmabwing5's Avatar
    Is an actual SD Card needed or you guys just mean the drive that shows up in my computer when you plug it into a pc. thanks.
    An SD card is needed, see steps 10 and 13 above.

    - RW
    07-13-2016 06:28 PM
  19. Werentuckl's Avatar
    A MicroSD card inserted into your phone, and your phone plugged into the computer using a data cable. And then you drop things into the root folder of the SD card that shows up under the new windows phone directory that pops up. :)

    -- W
    07-13-2016 06:34 PM
  20. westnz's Avatar
    ffs that stupid sdksetup didnt download the right tools or sumthin im running win 10 on my laptop and i ticked all the boxes.
    07-13-2016 09:47 PM
  21. rmabwing5's Avatar
    ffs that stupid sdksetup didnt download the right tools or sumthin im running win 10 on my laptop and i ticked all the boxes.
    I'll check it out. Hold tight for now, I can't get to it for another 20 hours or so. It's late here and I need to get some sleep then go to work all day tomorrow. Don't worry, we'll figure it out.

    Anyone else available to help?

    - RW
    07-13-2016 09:53 PM
  22. westnz's Avatar
    im now trying the setup for vs community 2015 there was a tick box for windows phone tools /sdks
    07-13-2016 09:57 PM
  23. rmabwing5's Avatar
    im now trying the setup for vs community 2015 there was a tick box for windows phone tools /sdks
    Cool, that should help you out also. That's how I got the sdks myself. I will still look at the other tools I have linked.

    - RW
    07-13-2016 10:04 PM
  24. westnz's Avatar
    ok im in windows 10 now build 10586.107 mission successful. i think umm people are supposed to run that install for the lite sdk in the ativ se zip file? i cant tell because the vscom 2015 installed it and i was able to carry on with the steps. luckily im on fibre so that vs 2015 download n install wasnt super long but yeah it took a massive like 15gigs or something. i deleted it after cause i don't develop.
    Last edited by westnz; 07-14-2016 at 03:47 AM.
    07-14-2016 01:23 AM
  25. westnz's Avatar
    ok my bug report so far for build 10586.494

    Standard windows phone camera app:
    Photos:
    main camera: no (seems to freeze during shutter moment)
    selfie cam: yes
    Videos:
    main camera: yes
    selfie cam: yes

    Ativ Camera app:
    everything seems to work.

    Tetris Blitz performance is very choppy practically unplayable
    Last edited by westnz; 07-14-2016 at 06:20 AM.
    07-14-2016 03:46 AM
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