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08-27-2012 03:11 PM
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  1. woodbane's Avatar
    just used the aux cable on my way to work this morning. No pop between songs. Ill have to check where my audio levels were, but honestly, im very happy that fix is here. Saves my speakers.



    Im on stock mazda 3 radio
    This is sounding promising. Now I'm just trying to read all the Tango update stuff so I can ensure that its still possible to windowbreak and keep interop unlock after update.

    I'm getting quite excited now by the thought of a new device.

    Dammit though, maybe I should just wait. Arrrrggggh!

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    07-02-2012 05:55 PM
  2. davidkhou's Avatar
    Just installed it on my Focus S tonight. For me, it looks like the popping sound between tracks is gone when playing music stored on the device. There is still a slight pop between tracks when using Slacker or MetroRadio.
    I don't use my device that often for audio output via amp'ed sources like a stereo or car so it's not
    07-02-2012 06:46 PM
  3. turbulent's Avatar
    This is sounding promising. Now I'm just trying to read all the Tango update stuff so I can ensure that its still possible to windowbreak and keep interop unlock after update.

    I'm getting quite excited now by the thought of a new device.

    Dammit though, maybe I should just wait. Arrrrggggh!

    Sent from my SGH-i917 using Board Express


    Ok just tested the aux connection in my way back home. There is a slight pop but only when I press play for the very fist time. That is..when I press shuffle all..theres a slight pop, but nothing after that. I tried on several volume levels in both phone and stereo.

    Regarding the interlop. I still have it. I can still sideload apps. There's another registry setting "app" that aims at avoiding your phone relocking. So far so good.

    Still have windows pro tools working. After the update I window broke all over again and tested by side loading something form bazaar.
    07-02-2012 07:35 PM
  4. Silverdogz's Avatar
    Every time I try to update I get an error maybe because of interop unlock and force to 8107. I used Mr. Burrns way here on the S forum.
    07-02-2012 08:11 PM
  5. btbam91's Avatar
    I forced it! They fixed the keyboard lag and they made the lock screen keyboard more responsive!
    07-02-2012 10:23 PM
  6. russshoe's Avatar
    Saw on WMpoweruser that the tango update is rolling out for the focus s.

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    Nothing here in Michigan LG Quantum
    07-03-2012 06:19 AM
  7. Silverdogz's Avatar
    Download the cab files from xda :
    [CAB] Official WP7 Updates List: 7.10.8773 + ALL LANGUAGES complete + OEM updates - xda-developers

    (you could download the links one by one or go to post 1055 where someone zipped all the files you need)




    then follow this guide:
    http://www.windowscentral.com/force-...-8107-tutorial


    for the focus S, you need to have all 22 language cabs installed. It wont work if any of them are missing


    Also, some people reported having trouble upgrading when they tried to make the jump from 7720 to 8379. The solution is to gradually upgrade

    7720 to 8107

    8107 to 8112

    8112 to 8379


    Its very simple. Prob 15 minutes to upgrade to each version
    I am just going to say that you can skip 8379 and go to 8773.
    07-03-2012 10:21 AM
  8. 64GUNSHIP's Avatar
    I also only used the English language pack. Its device specific. Use language and version history by heathcliff74 to get a list of ones you have to use.
    07-03-2012 02:36 PM
  9. Enemy Zero's Avatar
    I got the update last night after doing the force wi-fi method. Anyone else notice an increase in battery life with the update. Im usually dead by 4pm and today. Almost 80% battery left at 2:10

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    07-03-2012 04:09 PM
  10. xs2k's Avatar
    Forced update my S to Tango....

    Be warned...If you're on Tmobile, do not update the new firmware. It'll break your mms. Tried every trick and couldn't get MMS to work.

    Restored back to mango, updated to Tango without the firmware and everything works. Once in a while I lose all data connection and have to restart the phone. Got annoyed, so I'm back to Mango and everything is working like it should.
    07-03-2012 06:25 PM
  11. Jeff Corgan's Avatar
    Forced update my S to Tango....

    Be warned...If you're on Tmobile, do not update the new firmware. It'll break your mms. Tried every trick and couldn't get MMS to work.

    Restored back to mango, updated to Tango without the firmware and everything works. Once in a while I lose all data connection and have to restart the phone. Got annoyed, so I'm back to Mango and everything is working like it should.
    This could be coincidence. Last evening and today, portions of T-Mobile's network had major data outages which crippled MMS--at least for me and my friends.

    T-Mobile Confirms Nationwide Data Outage - Forbes

    T-Mo claimed all was fixed last night, by that story, but I had people having serious problems even today.
    07-03-2012 10:45 PM
  12. Mr_pither's Avatar
    Thanks for the info. I'm pretty sure this issue only ever presented via AUX cable connection so wouldn't expect it via bluetooth.

    I think it was narrowed down to some weird firmware issue that was basically the phone cutting power to the headphone jack when it detected a gap in music and then turining it back on again - causing the "pop" noise.
    my aux / headphone cable experience was good. no pops even at max volume on phone into car audio system, though interestingly I get better volume thru the bluetooth streaming (and SO much more convenient... highly recommend it ).
    07-03-2012 10:58 PM
  13. xs2k's Avatar
    This could be coincidence. Last evening and today, portions of T-Mobile's network had major data outages which crippled MMS--at least for me and my friends.

    T-Mobile Confirms Nationwide Data Outage - Forbes

    T-Mo claimed all was fixed last night, by that story, but I had people having serious problems even today.
    Just tested it again. Once updated to the new samsung firmware, mms not working. When I restore it, everything works.
    07-04-2012 02:59 AM
  14. sprout5533's Avatar
    My wife's Focus S said there is an update available this morning. Updating it now. Still waiting on the update for my Titan. I'm in San Diego, CA. Anyone know what the "SAMSUNG update for Windows Phone" is? It goes through all three wp7 updates through 8773 and now it's doing the Samsung update.
    Last edited by sprout5533; 07-04-2012 at 11:23 AM.
    07-04-2012 10:42 AM
  15. 64GUNSHIP's Avatar
    My wife's Focus S said there is an update available this morning. Updating it now. Still waiting on the update for my Titan. I'm in San Diego, CA. Anyone know what the "SAMSUNG update for Windows Phone" is? It goes through all three wp7 updates through 8773 and now it's doing the Samsung update.
    It offers several improvements, i.e. fixes the keyboard sound lagging, wifi driver hanging and popping sound when changing tracks (which was actually fixed in 8107), but be aware, it will prevent interop unlock in the future! Make sure you're still unlocked on Tango before upgrading, otherwise you'll have to restore from a backup.

    I know this because I neglected to make one and am now SOL without interop.
    07-04-2012 02:45 PM
  16. woodbane's Avatar
    It offers several improvements, i.e. fixes the keyboard sound lagging, wifi driver hanging and popping sound when changing tracks (which was actually fixed in 8107), but be aware, it will prevent interop unlock in the future! Make sure you're still unlocked on Tango before upgrading, otherwise you'll have to restore from a backup.

    I know this because I neglected to make one and am now SOL without interop.
    Do we know for certain whether it's the Tango update or the Samsung update that kills the interop unlock?

    It would help those doing the force update on Zune if they knew which as they could halt the update before the relevant stage, and apply the prevent relock XAP before the final stages.
    07-17-2012 11:33 AM
  17. 64GUNSHIP's Avatar
    Do we know for certain whether it's the Tango update or the Samsung update that kills the interop unlock?

    It would help those doing the force update on Zune if they knew which as they could halt the update before the relevant stage, and apply the prevent relock XAP before the final stages.
    Tango relocks your phone, then the Samsung update prevents it from being unlocked again. So upgrade to Tango using cab sender or disconnect from zune before the sammy update is installed, reunlock using the method described here: Manually snagging Tango update? Be forewarned, possible solution - Windows Phone Hacker then install the Samsung update. As for your question regarding MMS, mine is no longer working. The Samsung update prevents provxml editting, so I figure that's the same reason i can't successfully save my MMS settings. Lucky me, with no backup, I've essentially got myself a POS phone until WP8/I rage return to the LG Quantum. Be forewarned, make sure you follow the steps to unlock again before updating the Samsung firmware, and be prepared to potentially have MMS not working with no known fix. :@
    07-17-2012 08:49 PM
  18. woodbane's Avatar
    But does the Sammy update prevent Samsungs own wireless settings manager app from working? Can I not set the MMS there?

    If not, could I get to Tango, make sure I'm still unlocked and deploy provxml method BEFORE applying the Sammy update so MMS is already working?

    Plus, I'm on Straight Talk and not T-Mobile, does that make a difference?

    Surely Samsung isn't deliberately crippling it's own app?

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    07-17-2012 09:15 PM
  19. 64GUNSHIP's Avatar
    But does the Sammy update prevent Samsungs own wireless settings manager app from working? Can I not set the MMS there?

    If not, could I get to Tango, make sure I'm still unlocked and deploy provxml method BEFORE applying the Sammy update so MMS is already working?

    Plus, I'm on Straight Talk and not T-Mobile, does that make a difference?

    Surely Samsung isn't deliberately crippling it's own app?

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    It (wireless manager) no longer works for me. Not sure about anyone else, since none of the kind Focus S owners in this forum/XDA will reply.

    Yes, you can still use ProvXML in Tango. (BEFORE installing the Sammy firmware)

    I'm on Bell Canada, so I have no clue. If you apply with provxml before installing the sammy firmware, you should be fine. I don't know for sure if the wireless manager app was actually broken by any of this, similar problems have occurred for people in the past, however mine worked out of the box when unlocked on Bell and now I can't even get it to save MMS profiles. There's a default MMS profile that you can attempt to change, however attempting to save after changing the MMSC server info in the profile will revert it to default values of either AT&T or whatever test bed you had selected within the GRPS app.

    Honestly I'm considering smashing this phone. I love WP, I really do but since I upgraded to the Focus S, I've had nothing but problems. Maybe I'll buy a Lumia 900 to keep me sane until WP8 is released. Of course, had I not neglected to make a backup, I wouldn't be in this situation at all (no interop/root, no mms) right now. So I completely accept it's my own fault. I can live without interop/root (Lumia 900), but MMS is essential for me.:mad:

    On a positive note, the Samsung firmware update fixes/improves several things, including screen responsiveness along with that annoying hanging wifi driver.
    07-18-2012 07:43 PM
  20. woodbane's Avatar
    I understand how frustrating that must be for you. Could you not perhaps use an app like Whatsapp or Kik messenger which are both cross platform to send the picture messages to the recipient? That's what did before I interop unlocked my OG Focus so I could finally do MMS with Straight Talk. I mean, the Focus S is a really great device, it'd be a shame to kick it in over MMS when there are alternatives. :-)


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    07-18-2012 08:09 PM
  21. 64GUNSHIP's Avatar
    I understand how frustrating that must be for you. Could you not perhaps use an app like Whatsapp or Kik messenger which are both cross platform to send the picture messages to the recipient? That's what did before I interop unlocked my OG Focus so I could finally do MMS with Straight Talk. I mean, the Focus S is a really great device, it'd be a shame to kick it in over MMS when there are alternatives. :-)


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    I do use Kik quite a bit, however it's a pain if the contact needs to sign up first :\ I agree it's a great device but my WP experience has constantly been degrading since I got it.
    07-19-2012 07:10 AM
  22. woodbane's Avatar
    I do use Kik quite a bit, however it's a pain if the contact needs to sign up first :\ I agree it's a great device but my WP experience has constantly been degrading since I got it.
    Another option is TextPlus. It's a free service and the recipients don't have to sign up - it will send texts to any mobile number in your address book. The only catch is it assigns you a "telephone numer" that only the service uses (your actual cell number stays the same) - but as long as your friends add that number to their address book for you as a secondary cell number then they'll be able to send and receive texts from you as per normal. You can have attachements as per other messaging services but acts a bit more like traditional texting.

    Might be worth a look?
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    07-19-2012 08:21 AM
  23. woodbane's Avatar
    I just wanted to follow up and say that I successfully updated my Focus S to Tango using the 'cab send' method.

    In doing so I was able to KEEP my Interop unlock AND MMS settings.

    You do have to do it one stage at a time and it's crucial that you do NOT apply the Samsung Firmware update until the very end AFTER you've confirmed each step. It's also CRUCIAL to be inairplane mode and have your internet disconnected while doing the updates to make sure your phone doesn't relock.

    Here's a brief outline of steps I took:

    1. Created a backup of my 7720 Mango phone state (how the phone arrived). Used the tool mentioned in this thread. This is also where you'll get all the cab files you need.
    2. 2. Used Heathcliff's Version and Language info xap file (also from above thread) to make sure I knew which language packs to download - in my case, all 22 of them!
    3. Split my files in to two update folders, 7.10.8107.79-7.10.8112.7 and 7.10.8112.7-7.10.8773.98
    4. Sideloaded the relock prevent xap file from here. This is also a good place to read up on how to do this update properly.
    5. Double checked I was interop unlocked and MMS settings were working
    6. Used cab sender method to upgrade from 8107 to 8112, languages and OS.
    7. Checked unlock status and deployed relock xap (the Tango update fills in the MS URL in the registry which "phones home" and relocks the phone. The xap file blanks this out again. Give root priveliges using WP7 Root Tools and activate relock xap.
    8. Checked MMS still working.
    9. Used cab sender method to update 8112 - 8773. Rinse and repeat checking interop and MMS and redoing relock xap for good mesaure.
    10. At this time I also deployed my Internet / MMS settings via provxml method and applied. Again, double checked all was working.
    11. MADE BACKUP OF PHONE IN THIS FULLY WORKING STATE BEFORE APPLYING FINAL SAMSUNG FIRMWARE UPDATE
    12. Applied Samsung Firmware update.


    So at this stage I had a phone that was Interop unlocked but I ran into a hiccup with the MMS. I used the Samsung Wireless Manager and noticed that the Samsung Firmware update had changed all the MMS setting back to the AT&T defaults.

    I used ##634## (Diagnosis app) and *#9908* to get to provisioning menu and because I had already deployed and saved the Internet / MMS provxml file it appeared in the list and allowed me to apply it.

    Rebooted phone and everything was, and still is working.

    So I'm running a Samsung Focus S - fully updated to Tango with Internet AND MMS working on Straight Talk.

    Sweeeeeeeet!

    Anyhow, thought it might be of help to some people. :D

    Oh, one more thing. For the people who have tried this and ended up relocked due to Samsung Firmware with no backup, I know you've been trying to get the Samsung Wireless manager to deploy MMS settings with no luck.

    In playing with that app, I noticed it is VERY particular about how the information is listed for MMS settings to work. I've listed below everything that I can see from that section as I believe HOW some of these sections are written is KEY to getting this to work.

    1. In Wireless Manager go over to APN
    2. Make sure Automatic APN is UNCHECKED
    3. Click edit apn
    4. you should see an entry called mms_line. If it's called something else I believe this is part of the problem
    5. Click on it to edit it
    6. Settings as follows:
    7. APN name = mms_line
    8. Profile category = mms
    9. MMSC (whatever your provider has told you. For Straight Talk it's http://mmsc.cingular.com
    10. APN = Whatever your provider has told you. For Straight Talk it's att.mvno
    11. Auth type = none (unless your provider is different)
    12. Username = blank (unless your provider is different)
    13. Password = blank (unless your provider is different)
    14. Proxy address - Whatever your provider gave you. For Straight Talk it's 66.209.11.33
    15. Proxy domain = blank (unless your provider is different)
    16. Proxy port = Whatever your provider gave you. For Straight Talk it's 80


    Hit the save button and that should be it. Reboot for good measure.

    That's it folks - I hope all that information is useful to someone.
    07-23-2012 03:50 PM
  24. devilhound1's Avatar
    Got it. Came home to update notification on Tuesday. The little bug fixes really make my phone much nicer to use. Also I could be wrong but seems like WiFi is working way better.

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    07-27-2012 05:46 AM
  25. dazza9075's Avatar
    I just wanted to follow up and say that I successfully updated my Focus S to Tango using the 'cab send' method.

    In doing so I was able to KEEP my Interop unlock AND MMS settings.

    You do have to do it one stage at a time and it's crucial that you do NOT apply the Samsung Firmware update until the very end AFTER you've confirmed each step. It's also CRUCIAL to be inairplane mode and have your internet disconnected while doing the updates to make sure your phone doesn't relock.

    Here's a brief outline of steps I took:

    1. Created a backup of my 7720 Mango phone state (how the phone arrived). Used the tool mentioned in this thread. This is also where you'll get all the cab files you need.
    2. 2. Used Heathcliff's Version and Language info xap file (also from above thread) to make sure I knew which language packs to download - in my case, all 22 of them!
    3. Split my files in to two update folders, 7.10.8107.79-7.10.8112.7 and 7.10.8112.7-7.10.8773.98
    4. Sideloaded the relock prevent xap file from here. This is also a good place to read up on how to do this update properly.
    5. Double checked I was interop unlocked and MMS settings were working
    6. Used cab sender method to upgrade from 8107 to 8112, languages and OS.
    7. Checked unlock status and deployed relock xap (the Tango update fills in the MS URL in the registry which "phones home" and relocks the phone. The xap file blanks this out again. Give root priveliges using WP7 Root Tools and activate relock xap.
    8. Checked MMS still working.
    9. Used cab sender method to update 8112 - 8773. Rinse and repeat checking interop and MMS and redoing relock xap for good mesaure.
    10. At this time I also deployed my Internet / MMS settings via provxml method and applied. Again, double checked all was working.
    11. MADE BACKUP OF PHONE IN THIS FULLY WORKING STATE BEFORE APPLYING FINAL SAMSUNG FIRMWARE UPDATE
    12. Applied Samsung Firmware update.


    So at this stage I had a phone that was Interop unlocked but I ran into a hiccup with the MMS. I used the Samsung Wireless Manager and noticed that the Samsung Firmware update had changed all the MMS setting back to the AT&T defaults.

    I used ##634## (Diagnosis app) and *#9908* to get to provisioning menu and because I had already deployed and saved the Internet / MMS provxml file it appeared in the list and allowed me to apply it.

    Rebooted phone and everything was, and still is working.

    So I'm running a Samsung Focus S - fully updated to Tango with Internet AND MMS working on Straight Talk.

    Sweeeeeeeet!

    Anyhow, thought it might be of help to some people. :D

    Oh, one more thing. For the people who have tried this and ended up relocked due to Samsung Firmware with no backup, I know you've been trying to get the Samsung Wireless manager to deploy MMS settings with no luck.

    In playing with that app, I noticed it is VERY particular about how the information is listed for MMS settings to work. I've listed below everything that I can see from that section as I believe HOW some of these sections are written is KEY to getting this to work.

    1. In Wireless Manager go over to APN
    2. Make sure Automatic APN is UNCHECKED
    3. Click edit apn
    4. you should see an entry called mms_line. If it's called something else I believe this is part of the problem
    5. Click on it to edit it
    6. Settings as follows:
    7. APN name = mms_line
    8. Profile category = mms
    9. MMSC (whatever your provider has told you. For Straight Talk it's http://mmsc.cingular.com
    10. APN = Whatever your provider has told you. For Straight Talk it's att.mvno
    11. Auth type = none (unless your provider is different)
    12. Username = blank (unless your provider is different)
    13. Password = blank (unless your provider is different)
    14. Proxy address - Whatever your provider gave you. For Straight Talk it's 66.209.11.33
    15. Proxy domain = blank (unless your provider is different)
    16. Proxy port = Whatever your provider gave you. For Straight Talk it's 80


    Hit the save button and that should be it. Reboot for good measure.

    That's it folks - I hope all that information is useful to someone.
    any chance of seeing the xml data for your MMS/internet restore xap please? O2 settings were already there in the wireless manager so whilst I can see what the settings are, the layout of the xml and reg entries themselves are bit of a mystery!

    Just about to update to tango, double check it all is unlocked and healthy, backup then attempt a restore of the backup and if all is well, hit the firmware update, but the MMS settings in the diagnostic app would be critical, as if I understand this correctly, there's no way to add them back in again if they are not already apart of the diagnostic app list of xml data

    the whole thing stinks of a Samsung **** up if you ask me, presumably nothing will be done until the next WP updates get rolled out
    08-27-2012 03:11 PM
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