01-23-2011 10:51 AM
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  1. falconeight#IM's Avatar
    Amoled screens are not backlit. Every pixels controls its own light.

    "What is an OLED Screen?
    OLED is an acronym for “organic light-emitting diode”, a type of screen that has an emissive layer which is composed of organic compounds. What does that mean? Basically this is a type of screen that’s constructed differently from the standard LCD screen that we find on most phones today. OLED pixels emit their light directly without filters which allows these screens to have many benefits for the user in comparison with LCD screens."
    Pros and Cons of OLED Screens | Mobile Phone Blog | Dial-a-Phone
    01-05-2011 04:25 PM
  2. spitothec's Avatar
    So you post a link to a post where they say that they think the OLED might be more durable than LCD type displays? I'm sold. :)
    01-05-2011 04:39 PM
  3. falconeight#IM's Avatar
    So you post a link to a post where they say that they think the OLED might be more durable than LCD type displays? I'm sold. :)
    You have posted nothing or proven nothing. Its like arguing with a iphone fanboy from hell. The displays are two different technologies. DO some research then come back when you have learned something useful. Unless you just want to argue for the sack of arguing then thats cool.
    01-05-2011 05:11 PM
  4. selfcreation's Avatar
    So you post a link to a post where they say that they think the OLED might be more durable than LCD type displays? I'm sold. :)
    heres an Artical that comfirms it: it doesnt have the word , ``MIGHT`` or ``THINK`` , in it , lol!!!!!

    here: OLED Advantages and Disadvantages

    Its on point #7 and on point #6 they talk about hwo the screen is flexible ,

    hmm flexible?? = more durable? lol i think so. try bending your iphone lol ;)
    01-05-2011 06:21 PM
  5. falconeight#IM's Avatar
    heres an Artical that comfirms it: it doesnt have the word , ``MIGHT`` or ``THINK`` , in it , lol!!!!!

    here: OLED Advantages and Disadvantages

    Its on point #7 and on point #6 they talk about hwo the screen is flexible ,

    hmm flexible?? = more durable? lol i think so. try bending your iphone lol ;)
    If you look at a iphone wrong it will break.
    01-05-2011 06:26 PM
  6. spitothec's Avatar
    hmm flexible?? = more durable? lol i think so. try bending your iphone lol ;)
    You can't bend any screen that's covered by Gorilla Glass, no matter if it's a Focus or an iPhone. In fact, it would be harder to bend the iPhone since it has Gorilla Glass on both sides and the back of the Focus is an extremely thing piece of plastic.. that I feel like I'm on the verge of breaking every time I remove it.

    You have posted nothing or proven nothing. Its like arguing with a iphone fanboy from hell. The displays are two different technologies. DO some research then come back when you have learned something useful. Unless you just want to argue for the sack of arguing then thats cool.
    I've posted nothing but facts. There is absolutely no evidence that supports your claims of the Focus being more durable than an iPhone 4, yet I have posted multiple facts stating that they're made from the same protective glass. I'm not an iPhone fanboi, I'm simply arguing that there is no evidence anywhere, that neither I nor you can find, that in any way backs up your claims. I've researched it, and can find nothing to prove you right in any way. All I've found is article after article stating that when using Gorilla Glass as a protective surface, any phone is as durable as another.

    The screen is more flexible? Cool. That would matter if it wasn't sandwiched to the back of a non-flexible piece of Gorilla Glass. The same glass that the iPhone4 uses. Until you can find me some way of bending a sheet of Gorilla Glass, I can't see how that argument is relevant to either phone in any way. The closest either of you have got is an article that thinks that it might be more durable when the screen is probably exposed, ie: television use.

    I'm arguing with you because it's a pointless argument to make. I'm arguing because there is no argument to be made, and that's my point. The OP came in here stating facts that neither him nor you can back up, and I don't want to be part of yet another community that bashes other smartphones for no reason. They're both great phones, and neither is more durable than the other. What's so funny about peace, love and understanding?

    Sincerely,
    A happy Samsung Focus owner, a happy Microsoft fanboi, posting from my 100% Apple free household.
    01-06-2011 10:05 AM
  7. ninjaap's Avatar
    Less talking, more exploding! Where is that video?
    01-06-2011 11:25 AM
  8. selfcreation's Avatar
    that fact that the OLED is flexible doesn’t matter , the article i posted CLEARLY state that the OLED is more durable then LED . that’s the end of that.

    if you wana keep contradicting Experts , Engineers and Scientist go right ahead , but im done trying to convince a ignorant little Boy.

    Your completely mind set on your gorilla glass witch has nothing to do with OLED durability.


    PS: vid is comming i just got my Hands on a Iphone , trying to convince my G-f to let me break it , LOL , its a usless Iphone that can no longer be activated but the screen still works so i can still use it in the test.
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    01-06-2011 11:26 AM
  9. ninjaap's Avatar
    PS: vid is comming i just got my Hands on a Iphone , trying to convince my G-f to let me break it , LOL , its a usless Iphone that can no longer be activated but the screen still works so i can still use it in the test.
    Yes!!! But you can't just destroy an iPhone. I wanna see results from a SAMOLED screen as well, for scientific comparison.
    01-06-2011 11:42 AM
  10. selfcreation's Avatar
    Yes!!! But you can't just destroy an iPhone. I wanna see results from a SAMOLED screen as well, for scientific comparison.
    my old Omnia 2 is a OLED phone , im gona use that to compare it to the Iphone

    im thinking of doign a basic test witch will break the Iphone and not mine , then im gona take it to the extream and try to break a OLED

    ANy Test Ideas?? I have a third story Balacany , thats a good start ? lol
    01-06-2011 12:09 PM
  11. spitothec's Avatar
    that fact that the OLED is flexible doesn’t matter , the article i posted CLEARLY state that the OLED is more durable then LED . that’s the end of that.

    if you wana keep contradicting Experts , Engineers and Scientist go right ahead , but im done trying to convince a ignorant little Boy.

    Your completely mind set on your gorilla glass witch has nothing to do with OLED durability.


    PS: vid is comming i just got my Hands on a Iphone , trying to convince my G-f to let me break it , LOL , its a usless Iphone that can no longer be activated but the screen still works so i can still use it in the test.
    Like I've said for 3 pages now, post links to these experts, engineers, and scientists doing real world tests where the LED panel is glued to the back of sheet of Gorilla Glass. Gorilla Glass has everything to do with real world durability because the LED panel is attached to it. You can't even seem to provide me with any actual, solid proof that it's more durable in any situation.

    I hope you know that the test of your girlfriend's worthless old iPhone will prove nothing, since they didn't start using Gorilla Glass until the iPhone 4, right? .. and to that end, neither does your old Omnia 2 so I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to prove. The Focus and iPhone4 both use Gorilla Glass, which HAS been proven by every source known to man that it is more durable than either phone you're trying to test.
    01-06-2011 12:25 PM
  12. selfcreation's Avatar
    here you go again with your gorila glass!!! *****.

    OLED - LED , HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GORILA GLASS!!! man like talking to a mule.

    compare a LED srceen with a OLED screen ( WITH OUT GORILA GLASS ) and the OLED will have a better durability.

    AGaIN: im not arguing the gorila glass im arguing that OLED is better then LED , WITCH IT IS!!!

    Now why whould i compare 2 gorila glass? obviously they are the same , its the OLED panel It self that is mroe durable NOT THE FREAKING GLASS!!!!!!

    and if the OLED is better then the LED and then you put a gorila glass on BOTH OF THEM , the OLED is still better OVER ALL!!!! because the OLED PANEL!! is more durrable.

    PS: here is your EXPERT opignion: http://expertscolumn.com/content/ole...-disadvantages

    #7: Durability: Another great advantage of OLED is that it is more durable than traditional screens. There chance of getting broken is comparitively less to LCD screens and other displays.
    Last edited by Se1fcr3ation; 01-06-2011 at 01:38 PM.
    01-06-2011 01:31 PM
  13. spitothec's Avatar
    Now why whould i compare 2 gorila glass? obviously they are the same
    My work here is done. Carry on.
    01-06-2011 02:31 PM
  14. selfcreation's Avatar
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    Last edited by Se1fcr3ation; 01-06-2011 at 03:30 PM.
    01-06-2011 03:04 PM
  15. selfcreation's Avatar
    My work here is done. Carry on.
    wow you serious? the argument wasn’t Evan about gorilla glass.

    dont tell me YOU where comparing ``gorilla glass`` TO ``gorilla glass`` , cause that’s pretty retarded of you . like comparing water to water. i think water taste better then water. LMAO!

    seriously, little fan boys that dont know **** always argue with the more knowledgeable. Annoying.

    ihpone 4 is less durable then the focus = MY POINT PROVEN!

    gorila Glass OLED = more durable

    Gorila Glass LED = less Durable.

    ( i put the words ``GORILA GLASS`` there JUST FOR YOU )

    thanxs for comming out.
    return your focus and go buy an Iphone , and go ahead and switch your self to the Iphone forums.
    01-06-2011 03:30 PM
  16. SanFranMan's Avatar
    I just don't like the light, plasticky feel. I prefer something that feels more substantial. Like an iPhone 4, or the Dell Venue Pro (come to AT&T please!)
    01-11-2011 03:41 PM
  17. selfcreation's Avatar
    i still like ACTUAL durability over something that feels strong but is not. :P
    i have a bad habbit of not being carfull with my stuff , if i had an iphone 4 it alredy be broken LOL! :P
    01-11-2011 04:48 PM
  18. Caballera#AC's Avatar
    I don't know if this has been mentioned, but I think some people think that the Focus is 'cheap' is because it's so light. When I first picked up the focus at the AT&T store I though it was some 'fake' demo model. I held it and thought, "wow, no way could it be this light, maybe the battery has been removed". When you hold the HTC Surround it has a noticeable weight to it. My personal preference is against sliders of any kind as they sliding part generally is the weakest point and the biggest part of fail. The Focus is by far the best WP7 Handset available by AT&T at this time. I'm hoping new WP7 handsets are released with the next couple of months that are even better.
    01-18-2011 10:58 AM
  19. spitothec's Avatar
    Is the video up yet?
    01-20-2011 08:08 AM
  20. vailjo91#WP's Avatar
    I like the Focus but the reason I decided to go with the Surround is mainly because of the weight. When I have a phone that is light weight and made mainly of plastic that is a problem for me. Other then that I like the phone.
    01-20-2011 11:54 AM
  21. selfcreation's Avatar
    . When I have a phone that is light weight and made mainly of plastic that is a problem for me. Other then that I like the phone.
    you aware that the Surround is also made of plastic right? lol it just feels heavy. cause it has more hardware ... like the speaker. dont let the silver paint fool you.
    01-20-2011 12:16 PM
  22. action_efn_jackson's Avatar
    you aware that the Surround is also made of plastic right? lol it just feels heavy. cause it has more hardware ... like the speaker. dont let the silver paint fool you.
    You aware the entire bezel around the screen on the Surround is aluminum and the stand and slide mechanism is steel right? Point is less plastic then the Focus. Anyone who denies the Surround doesn't feel more solid is a fool.
    Last edited by action_efn_jackson; 01-20-2011 at 02:27 PM.
    01-20-2011 02:09 PM
  23. selfcreation's Avatar
    You aware the entire bezel around the screen on the Surround is aluminum and the stand and slide mechanism is steel right? Point is less plastic then the Focus. Anyone who denies the Surround doesn't feel more solid is a fool.
    OH RIIIGHT! i remember now , lol that was an other reason i dint like the surround , cause of the SHARP Aluminum eages on he Bazel. , every time i slide my finguer to the edge it felt like it was scraping my finguer off ( i dunno if they all like that doh )

    my bad! .

    also for the kick stand--> LMAO!! it might be steel , lol but dont you find it feels really really cheap?? i remember trying to close to speaker thought i would break it. hehe :P

    but the surround does feel stronger.. FEEL .. stronger
    01-20-2011 04:47 PM
  24. spitothec's Avatar
    I think the Surround feels much more substantial, solid, and rugged.
    01-22-2011 05:55 PM
  25. ninjaap's Avatar
    I was promised a video with an exploding phone... I feel betrayed and cheap, like a Samsung Focus...
    01-23-2011 02:12 AM
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